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Dami Animashaun, a 1L at Harvard Law School, talks about Harvard's trial by fire curriculum, therapeutic extracurriculars, and legendary professors.
What do you like most about law school?
There is very little that is likeable about first semester, but it would have been unbearable if I didn't have the friends I did.
That it gives me 3 years to figure things out…There is very little that is likeable about first semester, but it would have been unbearable if I didn't have the friends I did. I met some great people. Also, I joined some organizations that really gave me some perspective and helped me cope.
What do you dislike the most?
I disagree with the way the first year curriculum is structured at HLS and the trial by fire, hazing nature of it.
I disagree with the way the first year curriculum is structured at HLS and the trial by fire, hazing nature of it. As I said, it’s academically challenging, but not because it is overly theoretical or sophisticated but because they just throw a ton of busy work your way. The average students goes to class, reads, and sleeps, without ever getting the chance to think or digest or analyze what they read or were told.
What aspect of the academic work do you find most challenging?
There is a premium on time in law school.
The most challenging...one is staying ahead of the reading. I have three to five hours of reading every night. Another is figuring out what I should read and what I should skim- or not read. You can read everything, but if you are not interested or it is irrelevant, then the cost is time. There is a premium on time in law school.
Do you brief cases?
I probably went back to my briefs something like five times.
Never brief cases! I started briefing cases because other people were. But I don't anymore. I probably went back to my briefs something like five times. It is more time efficient to just jot down notes or highlight relevant parts of cases. Plus there are old outlines and class notes available that have everything you need to know.
Is there a study tactic or method you find most helpful?
I took practice tests, and my biggest mistake was not taking more practice tests.
I combined a few outlines and then made them into my own outline. If I didn’t understand a concept, I would read what a few hornbooks had to say on and really try to grasp and understand it. I took practice tests, and my biggest mistake was not taking more practice tests. You also have to know how to apply it and know what the professors are asking and are looking for. Read, outline, and know where things are on your outline. Take a lot of practice tests.
How accessible are professors at Harvard?
Also walking down the hall ways and seeing some legendary professors working in their offices with the door open is surreal at times.
Most of the professors are very accessible. You can schedule a meeting with almost any professor, whether or not you are in their class and that is really cool. Also walking down the hall ways and seeing some legendary professors working in their offices with the door open is surreal at times.
Are you involved in any extracurriculars?
... to get away from the institutions and actually interact with and help people in need was really special and therapeutic.
Harvard Defenders. It is a student practice organization that allows students to work with indigent criminal defendants. It's something that means a lot to me—to get away from the institutions and actually interact with and help people in need was really special and therapeutic.
Any general advice for law school?
When it got really tough and I wasn't interested in my classes, I wondered if I should have come to law school.
You should really find out more about law school [before coming]. Find out if you really want to be a lawyer. All my concerns about law school aren’t new. Everyone tells you about these concerns beforehand. You can do a lot of great things in law school but a lot of great things outside of it. When it got really tough and I wasn't interested in my classes, I wondered if I should have come to law school. You have to really critically evaluate what you want to do with your life and whether it's worth the money.
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Back in 2011, I attended a pre-law conference run by PLEN, a women’s leadership non-profit based in D.C., and had the opportunity to listen to a number of highly accomplished female lawyers and law students. A few years later, the person I remember most vividly is Shama Farooq, a Fredericksburg public defender whose passion and genuine empathy for her clients impressed and resonated with me. Here she speaks to 7Sage about the learning curve, warfare-like litigation, and her experiences in Palestine with the International Legal Foundation.
What is your day-to-day schedule?
You have this routine of court, jail, office.
A normal schedule for a public defender would be to head to court in the morning if you have an assigned docket or a case. Then I would go back to the office, where I have some managerial duties--advising other attorneys on their cases for example. Usually I go to the jail at least once. Then I’m back in the office, making phone calls to clients, speaking with investigators, visiting crime scenes, and looking up case law. You have this routine of court, jail, office.
What is the learning curve like for a new public defender?
The legal learning curve is definitely going to be very steep.
You are basically learning how to interact with others and how to develop trusting relationships with people. You are learning how to talk to judges, juries, prosecutors, police officers, and most importantly, your clients. You are learning to recognize what the priorities are for people. This is something you develop at your individual pace.
The legal learning curve is definitely going to be very steep, everything from learning to recognize the elements of a crime to listening to a story and within two minutes, being able to understand what the problems are for you and the other side. The first nine months as a public defender, you learn a ton, and afterwards, you learn the complexities.
Can you talk about the adversarial side of being a public defender?
It is like warfare but civilized warfare. You’re using the law and procedure practices as your weapons.
Being inside the courtroom – you have to recognize for yourself if you are the sort of person who can deal with the tension of being inside the courtroom because you are not really on your best social behavior [in this setting]. It is like warfare but civilized warfare. You’re using the law and procedure practices as your weapons. At the same time, you have to be professional, you have to be civil, and you have to be courteous. If the other side needs to break, for a legitimate reason, and it doesn’t hurt your client, you should give it to them. Those courtesies will come back to you. So on one side, you have to have this thick skin but you also have to remain a human being. Be kind and generous as long as it doesn’t hurt your clients.
What was a memorable case you worked on?
The experience really reaffirmed my faith that judges understand that they are human beings who make mistakes and that when presenting a reasonable legal argument, you can convince a judge to change his or her mind.
I had one very recently. I had a client who is a drug addict, and by the time she got arrested, she was on her way to recognizing that it’s a disease and to dealing with it. But the law is a bit tough on it. It only gives you a few options for avoiding a felony conviction for example. We wanted to use some of those options for her. But the judge was a fairly new judge, wasn’t being convinced, and was using something on her record as a hindrance. He wasn’t giving me a chance to explain when my client really deserved another chance. It was a devastating blow. But we filed a motion after her conviction and put in all the laws I knew he wasn’t aware of. To his credit, he let me argue again in court and reversed himself. He acknowledged that he was wrong. The experience really reaffirmed my faith that judges understand that they are human beings who make mistakes and that when presenting a reasonable legal argument, you can convince a judge to change his or her mind. That’s an amazing thing.
What advice do you have for students interested in public defender work?
It’s very rewarding--being an advocate for someone else and putting your heart in it.
It’s one of those jobs that you are going to love. It’s going to be really tough but you are going to love it because you have an impact on people’s lives every single day. You are upholding a basic human right and the Constitution in a way very few people get to do. It’s very rewarding--being an advocate for someone else and putting your heart in it.
From the very beginning, take as many basic criminal law courses. If you can do internships in public defender offices, there’s nothing better you can do. Everything you learn in your 1L year, you can put into use immediately. You can also seek out opportunities in a criminal justice clinic, which most law schools have, or find people in the local legal community to shadow, even if it’s only for a few hours.
You mentioned that you were interested in international affairs in undergrad. Is that something you miss?
You’d be surprised that many of the same principles of protection apply for criminal defendants in Palestine as in the U.S.
No, actually, I took a three-month fellowship last year in the Palestinian West Bank where I was training Palestinian defense attorneys with the International Legal Foundation, an NGO based in New York that helps set up attorneys in post-conflict societies. In Palestine, I was doing the exact same work as I do here, and I was training attorneys to analyze the law, conduct investigations, and how to argue. You’d be surprised that many of the same principles of protection apply for criminal defendants [in Palestine as in the U.S.]. So many constitutions have similar provisions for the right to counsel, having affidavits, and preventing the mistreatment of detainees. Pretty much every major democracy has those.
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When it comes to correct LSAT answer choices: There can be only one
I tend to always hear from typically new students, disgruntled at having gotten a question wrong, “Hey, I totally understand why C is right, but I’m sure B is also right. Here, look at my proof.”
Since, you’re just starting down this long road, I want unburden you from this misconception. It makes for lighter travel. Plus, I don’t want to yell at you later.
So, drop this misconception on the ground, dig a fire pit, burn it, and bury the ashes. There is never another answer choice that is even arguably right for any LSAT question. Don’t even think about it.
I’ll say it again. There is only ever one right answer choice and four massively, horrendously, embarrassingly, wrong answer choices.
This is not to say that it’s easy to identify the right answer choice. Quite the opposite, it’s very difficult. Often, I have a difficult time figuring out why an answer is right or wrong. But, I never think it’s because the LSAC messed up. Rather, it is invariably true that I just haven’t figured it out yet.
Why am I so certain of this? For a couple of reasons. First, I’ve done or taught every LSAT question in existence (over 7,000) and I have never run across a wrong answer choice that I thought was even arguably right. Second, I’ve discussed this issue at length with other LSAT instructors and high scoring students and we’ve always independently come to the same conclusion. Third, and this is the important one, LSAC’s policy in dealing with possible mistakes in their questions guarantees this result.
Of the four LSATs administered each year, the June, October, and December LSATs are disclosed to the test takers. You receive a PDF of the test and you have 90 days to challenge any question you want.
Just think about that for a second. Think about the importance of your LSAT score. The difference even a few points make. Think about the level of neuroses that pervades LSAT takers. When you get your score back and you see that you got some questions wrong and the LSAC is telling you that you have the option to challenge every one of those questions and that’s your only chance of getting a higher score, what do you think you’re going to do? Of course you’re going to scrutinize the shit out of every single question.
Except it’s not just you doing this. It’s everyone who took that LSAT. That’s the insane level of scrutiny that every LSAT question is subject to.
It doesn’t even end there. Say you sincerely believe that the LSAT has made a mistake. You write in your challenge. The LSAC will answer every challenge in writing showing you why the right answer is right and the wrong ones wrong and why your argument fails miserably.
But, say you get their response back and you’re still not satisfied. Then, you get to appeal this issue to a panel of independent outside experts. This means that the LSAC writers must ultimately write their questions with reasoning solid enough to persuade a entire fucking panel of independent outside experts that there is only one right answer choice and four wrong answer choices. If a wrong answer choice was even arguably right, they would be unable to meet this standard.
Now, of course, this doesn’t mean the LSAC never makes mistakes. Even the LSAT writers are human after all and even though the system they designed is solid, any human system is subject to error. Every once in a while a written challenge does reveal an error. When that happens, the question is removed from scoring and removed from the published Prep Test. By the time you are taking that Prep Test, it’s already been through hellish scrutiny. You’re not going to find anything new that tens of thousands of people just like you only with way more riding on the line haven’t found before.
So remember. There is only one right answer choice.
Matthew Fenn, a 3L at Fordham Law School, takes time out of his very busy schedule as the Fordham Law Review's Editor-in-Chief to talk about pre-law advice, future aspirations, and the demands of being a law review EIC.
What do you like most about law school?
I have always been someone who loves learning about new things and exploring why society is the way that it is, and law is perfect for this.
My favorite thing about law school is that it forces you to tackle issues, in depth, in a lot of different subjects and areas of life. Law school makes you think about politics, education, sports, art, medicine, economics, and any other topic you can possibly think of from a whole new perspective. I have always been someone who loves learning about new things and exploring why society is the way that it is, and law is perfect for this.
Is there a study tactic or method you find most helpful?
Keeping smart people around to chat with, bounce ideas off of, and study with never hurts, either!
One thing that was difficult for me in college and continues to be challenging in law school is that you have a lot of “unstructured” time, or time when you are not in class but have plenty of work to get done. The most helpful thing, for me, was to keep a regular schedule and treat law school like a full-time job. Keeping smart people around to chat with, bounce ideas off of, and study with never hurts, either!
Can you tell us more about Fordham's Law Review?
The most challenging part of the job is the sheer amount of work that it requires, as my friends—who don’t see me very often these days—can attest to!
The Fordham Law Review publishes roughly 3,000 pages of legal scholarship each year on topics ranging from constitutional law to corporate law and everything in between. We also host symposia and lectures to bring distinguished professors, scholars, judges, and practitioners together to discuss advancements in law.
The editor-in-chief, from a big-picture perspective, is in charge of making sure that the publication of each book, the execution of each event, and relationships among editors on the board are all smooth. The editor-in-chief’s primary responsibilities include approving articles and notes to be published in the law review, working with the managing editor to set a publication schedule, and making final edits on each piece that will be published.
My favorite part of the job is the opportunity to lead and work with a group of extremely intelligent, hard-working people, and to be part of an esteemed tradition of editors who have done the same. Fordham Law Review has an impressive legacy, and it’s an honor to carry on that legacy and attempt to make a personal mark on it. The most challenging part of the job is the sheer amount of work that it requires, as my friends—who don’t see me very often these days—can attest to!
Do you have any advice for students interested in legal research or in publishing (as you did in the Fordham Law Review)?
Great legal scholarship doesn’t have to be about a popular U.S. Supreme Court case or a constitutional amendment.
My biggest piece of advice would be to find an interesting topic and start to learn more about it, whether that is by watching the news, browsing the internet, or following experts in the field. As I mentioned earlier, law touches so many corners of life. Great legal scholarship doesn’t have to be about a popular U.S. Supreme Court case or a constitutional amendment. It doesn’t have to revolutionize the law. It just needs to expose a pressing legal problem, examine the problem in depth, and suggest a solution or point out something that others hadn’t necessarily thought of before.
What are you interested in doing after law school?
Mostly, though, I just want to work hard with smart people tackling difficult problems and have a good time doing it.
I will be working at a big firm next year, and for a judge the year after that, both of which I am eagerly looking forward to. I am very interested in appellate practice and would love the opportunity to argue in front of the Supreme Court, but so few lawyers get the chance to do that. Mostly, though, I just want to work hard with smart people tackling difficult problems and have a good time doing it.
Any other law school related advice?
When the workload is especially heavy, it’s easy to cash it in early or take shortcuts, particularly when the only person watching over you is you. Just remember that you are working hard for a reason.
For prospective students, read and write as much as possible—fiction, nonfiction, news, comedy, sports, really anything. Thinking critically and being a strong reader and writer are, I think, the most important qualities a lawyer can have and also correlate pretty closely with success in law school. The only way to hone these skills is through practice.
For current students, one important piece of advice is to keep your long-term goals in mind, especially when the going gets tough. When the workload is especially heavy, it’s easy to cash it in early or take shortcuts, particularly when the only person watching over you is you. Just remember that you are working hard for a reason. Also, an underrated piece of advice: be considerate and nice to your peers. A little kindness goes a long way, especially in an intense environment like law school.
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