I use 7Sage, completed core curriculum (CC) a while ago and went back to review all of the logic material and I'm currently foolproofing games in the bundle (I've done PTs 1-20 so far, but have since taken a break from them when I began taking PTs). I have taken 3 PTs (June 2007 for the second time after 10 months, PT 69 and PT 73).

My goal score is 10-15 points (165+) higher than my actual scores and my blind review scores have been up to10 points less than my goal score (154-163). For each exam, my BR score for was at least 10 points higher than the actual PT score. I have also run out of time for almost every LR section and every LG section in these PTs.

Timing is certainly an issue for me and my BR average is not near my target score. Not sure how useful LSAT Analytics will be to me with only ~3PTs (2 Fresh PTs) so if I should take more PTs, what would be a good amount to take to assess true weaknesses? Timing is obviously a weakness but how much does that matter now--is that a problem to be addressed later or right now?What would be the best course of action? I'm looking to hear from people who have been or are in a similar situation so I can try out a few things to see what might work for me.

Who kept PTing and started seeing results? Who kept PTing continued to not see results, changed game plan and started seeing results? What was that change?

Things I've noticed:

Pretty much averaging -10 on each section from each of these PTs.

I plan on taking the exam in September and want to construct a game plan going into August so that I can be comfortably PTing in September with BR scores (hopefully) well above my goal score.

Long post, I know, but seriously seeking advice because PT scores are making me sad...

TL;DR: I'm basically asking the same question but I have not yet done or tried any LR or RC untimed: https://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/13780

I'm planning on using 36-50 and using PTs 60-72 for actual PTs. I might use PTs 50-59 for drills and purchase PTs 73-84 on Amazon. Please advise.

Hi everyone! Hope everyone is doing okay during these difficult times and have all they need (or at least the capacity to get what they need). I also hope you are practicng social distancing and takign advantage of all the streaming services available!

I have decided to take a gap year to really work hard to get the score I need and want before I apply to law school. I am planning to, ideally, register for the September and/or October LSAT(s). I'll have at least 6 months to study for this exam if I use April-May to go through the core curriculum again while doing online remote learning (with a potential pass/fail transcript recording) and I will ideally start focusing on timed practice (PTs and sections) starting in June until the end of the summer and/or until I take the exam. I will be able to study full-time during the summer and potentially until I take the exam. I have not done any kind of studying since October of last year and none of the studying I have done in the last 6 months was consistent so it is safe to say I am starting from square 1, with some knwoledge of the lsat and curriculum.

I would like to get some thougths on a few things:

Reviewing core curriculum again--how do I get the most out of it?

Taking a diagnostic that is not June 2007(since I already have) but an exam that is close to the rigor of what I would expect on the more recent exams

I would like to allot at least 25-30 PTs to take under-timed conditions--- any ideas on the best batch?

Foolproofing--when and for how long (this is subjective of course but please share thoughts and experiences). Obviosuly you foolproof games that you do after PTs if you did not go - 0 but outside of that, what is the best and most efficient way to foolproof The Bundle(also subjective but see above;))?

how many PTs per week when I start timed practice?

The best time to start timed practice (regardless of my timeline)?

Who has done a study plan similar to the one I am doing?

How to avoid/deal with burnout?

Anything else I should keep in mind and/or incorporate?

I am a shooting for a 165 or better and have averaged in the high 140s and low 150s in the past (fewer than ten PTs), but that may prove to be irrelevant given my time off. Anything is possible imo so please tell me how you do this--ups and downs and all if you had a similar study plan and were in a similar scoring range.

Hi Everyone! I finished 7sage CC at the end of Nov and took a post-CC diagnostic. I have been studying on and off for logic games proofing (only a few days worth) and have decided to push my Jan 2019 LSAT to March. I'm trying to figure out what I want to do between now and March but I'm kind of lost. My post-CC diagnostic is between 10-20 points from my goal score and I noticed that timing is an issue for me too. I have only taken 1 PT since the CC, tried to begin foolproofing, got tied up doing job interviews and I guess now I'm at square one again. However, I am ready to hit the ground running again and especially now that I am giving myself more time.

Q: Should I take a few more PTs now to determine where I'm at curriculum-wise before jumping into logic game proofing or just go right into LG proofing?

With a little more time, I can take more PTs before the real deal but I'm not going to have time to commit to a robust logic games proofing schedule (section a day, Pacifico's method, one whole month).

Q: Is it possible to get the benefits of foolproofing from just doing the logic games from the PTs I take? JY's or Pacifico's Method?

I also start taking classes at the beginnng of January, have a two-week sping break in March and the week after that I have the exam. I made sure that my schedule wasnt going to be to rigorous to make time for the LSAT but I see these three months as my "PT and rigourous BR" phase of my studying (1-2 test per week for 12 weeks). My post-CC diagnostic was pretty average but it may or not be the best indication for where I am right now (those were the first and only-timed sections/questions I've done since I started 7Sage).

Q: Is more or less PTs in my situation better? Timing is an issue for me, but it's not like I scored a 180 on the BR of that post-CC PT.

So what's the best course of action I should take? I plan to reboot my LSAT studying on Sunday (Dec. 23).

P.S. I had a chance to checkout the Post-CC webinar and that was pretty helpful too but wondering if anyone has any advice to drive home, add or tweak from what was advised.

What is the best approach to doing logic games during blind review?

When I started PTs I was doing foolproof drills (isolating each game to work on getting it under target time and then checking for accuracy until target time is reached or under target time and game is at 100% accuracy). In other words, I'm checking for both time and accuracy (so I basically foolproof them until I have the correct Acs and enter an LG Blind Review score of -0). However, I'm wondering if that is not okay and/or does not make for an accurate representation of my blind review score and/or my strengths/weaknesses in LG.

Would it be better to:

A) Aim for accuracy: do the entire section untimed and enter blind review answer choices (without checking for correct answers until after blind review score is shown)

B) Aim for target time/under target time: isolate each game, look up the target time for each game via 7Sage and do the game until it is on or under target time and enter blind review answer choices (without checking for correct answers until after blind review score is shown)

C) Do what I already do?

I am trying to get an accurate representation of my blind review score but that could mean - 0 or - X amount depending on what method I choose. I also want to get the most out of my blind reviews of my PTd LGs.

Hi everyone! Hope everyone is foing okay during these difficult times and have all they need (or at least teh capacity to get what they need). I also hope you are practicng social distancing and takign advantage of all the streaming services available!

I have decided to take a gap year to really work hard to get the score I need and want before I apply to law school. I am planning to, ideally, register for the September and/or October LSAT(s). I'll have at least 6 months to study for this exam if I use April-May to go through the core curriculum again while doing online remote learning (with a potential pass/fail transcipt recording) and I will ideally start focusing on timed practice (PTs and sections) starting in June until the end of the summer and/or until I take the exam. I will be able to study full-time during the summer and potentially until I take the exam. I have not done any kind of studying since October of last year and none of the studying I have done in the last 6 months was consistent so it is safe to say I am starting from square 1, with some knwoledge of the lsta and curriculum.

I would like to get some thougths on a few things:

I am writing the exam in July and September. Based on my diagnostics, I am pretty average in all sections and LG is not as intuitive for me so I am currently foolproofing LG by type (as in drilling all games in PTs 1-9, 10-19..20-29 in order*). I am on week 2 of this studying regimen. I plan to transition to foolproofing PT section by PT section and then doing timed sections after registering and reinforcing inferences for each game type. I am currently doing 2 PTs worth every day but finding this to be difficult since I am averaging 5 Games past target time and/or not at 100% accuracy.

*- I am drilling like this:10 Seq, 5 In-Out, 8 Grouping etc. some of the miscellaneous games turned out to be the other general games in disguise that I previously foolproof but others are just super old LSAT games that may show up on recent LSATs in some form (give or take 5-7 games that I am not doing for every 9 games so far).

What I'm doing:

LG by Type X-X

Attempt Game

1st attempt Under Time and 100% accurate: Do game a month from now

If not, do it again that day, and then at the end of the week

2nd attempt Under Time and 100% Accurate same day: do game at the end of the week

2nd attempt NOT Under Time and/or 100% Accurate same day: watch JY's video, do that game same day, then repeat that game on the weekend

Weekend Day 1: 1st Attempt Under Time and 100% accurate: Review game 2 weeks later

Weekend Day 1: 1st Attempt NOT Under Time and 100% accurate: Watch video and do game again, and do it again next day of weekend

Weekend Day 2: 1st Attempt Under Time and 100% accurate: Review game 1 week later

Weekend Day 2: 1st Attempt NOT Under Time and 100% accurate: Do Game 2X the following week

So based on this information...

How many games per day would make my review optimal (currently doing about 8 right now, but slowing down)?

Any suggestions and/or tips for full-time studying in general?

I am taking the July exam but aiming to be most prepared for the September exam. I have the most potential to improve on LG games so I am foolproofing these until the July exam with maybe some LR and RC practice beforehand.

I am registered for the July 15th exam and if I choose to cancel (aftere registering for the September exam) could I get a refund check for the September exam after my September score has been reported? I know freebie takes start in October but was wondering if this was also an option.

Is it possible to get both scores after grading the digital PT (timed and BRd score)?**

For instance, If you take the exam, go back to flagged questions to BR (having not selected "Show Results"), do those questions and then score the exam, which score(s) do you get?

My BR score will only comprise questions I reviewed that were flagged and questions I flagged because I did not get to or skipped them.

What is your method for going back to confidence-error questions? I will not include them in my BR score but since I click "Show Results" I will not be able to go back to the digital exam to do these questions again right?

Do you use the "Quick View" method to review these questions?

Also, in order to know which questions are flagged/not flagged, would it be a good idea to write down the questions that were flagged when BR digitally so that I could be made aware of which questions were confidence-error and which ones were flagged?

For the questions I did flag, would it be best to write the question numbers down during BR so that I can check to see whether or not I got the flagged questions right or wrong after I completed BR and click "Show Results"?

I have not really explored digital that much and just want to make sure I can take some precautionary measures before starting my digital PT and prep practice.

I'm trying to figure out how to get my proper BR score. While I PT I flag the questions I missed and the questions I didn't do because I ran out of time (generally marked with the same AC if they are all consecutive and towards the end). Should I :

A) Do flagged questions and then score the timed PT and the BRd PT

B) Do flagged questions, check to see if I missed any questions I didn’t flag (without checking/remembering what the correct AC was) do those, keep ACs I chose for flagged questions and then score the timed PT and BRd PT?

C) Score the Bad PT twice: once after doing flagged questions and then once after doing the questions that were wrong but I did not circle them (I will just keep note of the first BR score after doing just flagged questions)

I do not intend to score the flagged question attempt if I still got it wrong or chose the wrong AC after BRing--I will just go review it, watch the video explanation and come back to it another time.

This is mainly for LR. I plan on just doing the LG section untimed, drilling it until I am under target time for each game and at 100% accuracy and then I will add the correct AC to that section in the BR score. I also plan on doing the RC section untimed to make and scoring that section into BR score.

I am also working with a blank copy (writing in July so just in case) but would like to know how any of this may be possible with digital because I plan to write in September as well.

I just started foolproofing the LG Games Bundle and want to give my self 2 months tops to complete it. I plan on taking the March LSAT and spending at least 1 month for my PT cycle (2-3 weeks of that month at 3 PTs/week + BR). I want to start PTing mid February at 1/PT per week, then move on to 2 PTs/week and then 3PT/week the last two weeks before the exam. I will be studying full-time for 2-3 weeks before the exam. I am in school and focusing on foolproofing the bundle (Pacifico's Method) in January and February.

Any tips on how to accomplish:

I have Ultimate +. Scored a diagnostic in the 140s early Dec 2018. Struggled with LG games. Average to meh in LR and RC. Break until Jan 1. Rebooted Studying and now working on LG Bundle.

Any advice and suggestions would be greatly appreciated.