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Thursday, Jan 30 2020

Also early 30's and applying. Came here to write a massive comment but the two already posted have absolutely nailed it! I spoke with a few T5 schools and they were saying it's definitely a strength to be an older candidate as long as you can explain how your life experience will:

a) help you absolutely kill it in law school; and

b) create more diversity in the classroom (eg; you remember a time before i-Phones).

Remember, the biggest thing schools want to avoid is you either failing or dropping out. So turn your life experience into "I'm old enough to know what I want to do now and this isn't some last minute idea because I've finished college and don't want to get a job" and "My experiences in the workplace have allowed me to develop organisation (please excuse the Australian spelling), time management and prioritisation skills which will allow me to thrive in law school".

But yes the LSAT is the single biggest factor without a doubt.

There is also a really good course on EDX. It's run by Harvard and is a first year 'Justice' course. A lot of ethics and moral dilemmas. While it isn't the same as pouring through cases and legislation for hours on end, it will give you an indication of whether you like thinking about problems that actually do not have a clearly identifiable solution.

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Sunday, Sep 29 2019

This question is so much easier if you attack the argument.

"If Selena doesn't have psychic powers then we know it's not possible to have psychic powers"

WTF? That makes no sense. What if Selena doesn't have them but someone else does? How can her not having something prove that it's not possible?

AC 'B' totally fixes this scenario and therefore is the SA you need to answer this correctly.

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Thursday, Sep 26 2019

What an awesome post! Legit made me laugh several times. Congrats on your score and post up what school you end up going to!!

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Friday, May 24 2019

Hey! Great job on the improvement so far! I am also looking for around a 20 point jump and have currently improved 13 points (so we are in a fairly similar place). I pushed my test back to October, it was super annoying as I wanted it over but it was important enough to me that I knew I needed more time.

Something that has been really handy for me is keeping an Excel spreadsheet of which question types I get wrong on each PT. That way I can go back and practice the specific question types I am not doing so well on. I have also been using the questions on Khan Academy. No doubt the instruction on 7sage is considerably better than Khan but having access to free question banks is super helpful.

Also agreed with the above if you haven't done all the CC then start there.

Great job so far though and good luck!! :)

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Sunday, Sep 22 2019

Hey! Yeah it's paper in Australia as well. I'm fairly certain everywhere outside the US is paper.

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Wednesday, Jun 19 2019

Hey mate,

I've been doing this for the LG sections. I just input the results into the analytics and then when I want to run a report to see how I am doing I just use the 'Edit' function to select the tests I want uesd for data.

EG; I have sat 66, 68 and J07 as full tests and done the LG section of PT's 1-6.

So if I want a good view of how I am doing overall I will only look at the full PT's but if I am just checking my LG sections I will include them all and just not take notice of the scores in the RC and LR sections.

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Monday, Apr 15 2019

I'm on the starter plan and am using the CC from 7sage but supplementing the practice with the free resources from Khan Academy. I'm only 2 weeks in so too early to say how effective it's been but basically I'm looking to nail as much of the CC as I can in a month and then practice on Khan and come back to CC when I see which question types I am struggling with.

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Wednesday, May 15 2019

Well done! Harvard is an amazing achievement and you should be super proud!

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Tuesday, Aug 13 2019

Every one learns things in different ways.

I would 100% agree with the comment above and if you do all of that and still can't get it, maybe consider getting a Powerscore book or LSAT Trainer or something. The way JY explains things makes sense to me 90% of the time but occasionally it just doesn't click with me and I go and find how other courses teach it and go from there.

They legit are just practice though and the advice above about the Cheat Code is so true. Picking the right board is more than half the battle.

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Thursday, Jun 13 2019

This is amazing. You are a legend.

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Monday, Aug 12 2019

I can't imagine it will hurt. It's a pretty complicated process from what I understand so I think it would definitely be worth including

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Friday, Oct 11 2019

I got this right but I couldn't decide between A and C for ages.

If Lycopene is lower in old people AND people with low lycopene are more likely to have a stroke THEN isn't this introducing age as a potential third factor? It seems like a bit of a stretch but I remember a question (I think in the PT40's?) where you had to destroy a causal argument by making the jump that age was the 3rd factor that made people more likely to have a heart attack.

I ended up going with A because it just seemed like a better fit but it was bugging me for ages.

Anyone else get stuck with this?

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Friday, Oct 11 2019

Anyone still here on this thread?

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Friday, Oct 11 2019

I literally couldn't agree more with @.

You are soooo lucky that you killed RC. It's definitely the hardest to improve on.

Loophole book is epic. It also took me from -10/-12 down to -2/-4 in like 4 weeks. Also if you can pick up a second hand copy of the P/Score books I found a few bits and pieces helpful in there.

The only other thing I would say is do not expect linear improvement. I put in months of work and was still scoring between 160-165 with one 167. Then out of the blue I got a 170 and now every PT is 170(+/- 2). You will put in a heap of work and see hardly any improvement and then it's like suddenly it all happens at once.

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Friday, Oct 11 2019

Hey! I am a 30+ applying this cycle from Australia. So far the international thing has been waaay more difficult than the age situation. But glad there are some other 'old people' on here :)

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Thursday, Aug 08 2019

Hey! I am also in this situation.

Basically, this is how it works.

You submit your transcript to LSAC. They will evaluate it and give you one of the following results.

Superior

Above Average

Average

Below Average

Don't Bother Applying

(I may have made the last one up because I couldn't remember it but you get the idea).

Law schools that you apply to will see this grade and it will factor into your application but from speaking to a few admissions people at top schools they have said "as long as it's superior or above average we don't really care".

In a nutshell, it's impossible to compare a students scores across China, India, Australia, UK etc... so they just want to make sure that you applied yourself and got good grades.

This is the important one.

Your GPA will not count towards their calculated GPA for the ABA rankings. This is super important and is both a blessing and a curse.

The easiest way to explain is by giving an example;

You get a 172 on the LSAT and you are on par with two US students. US student 1 has a GPA under the schools median and US student 2 has a GPA over the schools median.

The Good News: You will have preference over the student with the lower GPA because your score will not impact the schools median GPA while their score will lower the schools median GPA.

The Bad News: You will not get preference over the US student with the higher GPA because they will increase the schools median and you will not impact it.

Obviously the situation is not as cut and dry as this. Even just statistically one single students GPA isn't going to have a large impact on the average for an entire class but it's a general rule of thumb to remember.

I've done a lot of research on applying as an international student so if you want to chat or need a hand with anything feel free to DM me.

Also, I just joined up to the 7Sage admissions consulting and within 24 hours I have been contacted by multiple people from 'my team' and I feel much more confident around navigating the US application process. Would highly recommend.

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18370380student737
Tuesday, Sep 03 2019

Hey! Which exam are you sitting? I'm on October 13th but I would be happy to send it to you after that? Also I am in Australia so it would probably take a week or so from then.

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Tuesday, Sep 03 2019

Also trying to work this out. The problem is that you know which section is 'not scored' so it really doesn't simulate the test day at all. @ is there any chance you guys are working on this so it simulates the test day more effectively? :)

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Tuesday, Sep 03 2019

I am not scoring in the 170's but I am consistently getting between -0 and -2 for RC and I don't have much experience in most of the subject matter. I got a huge help from the RC section in The LSAT Trainer. I definitely think it is easier when you understand the subject matter but not impossible otherwise.

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Thursday, Oct 03 2019

Learn Conditional Reasoning until it's second nature

Learn Causal Reasoning until it's second nature

Learn the Common Flaws

Be able to identify questions types from the stem straight away

Have a step-by-step process for attacking each question type

I used an app called Anki to do this. You can make flashcards so I had one set for each of the points above and then practiced them using spaced repetition.

Make sure you write your flashcards both ways. Meaning for each QStem you should have the following cards:

Q: Which of the following is Most Strongly Supported by the information in the passage?

A: MSS

Q: What is an example of an MSS QStem?

A: Which of the following is Most Strongly Supported by the information in the passage?

Also, try and get a copy of The Loophole, that book is amazing and got me from -5 per section down to -1/-2 per section.

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