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Hi guys, I wanted to share an idea that may be helpful in improving RC. One of my biggest stumbling blocks in RC is freezing when I run into topics I'm unfamiliar with (science and economics, mostly). Reading articles on Scientific American and the Economist have been very helpful to increase my familiarity with certain terms. Another tool that came to mind this morning is Wikipedia.

Wikipedia has a "Random Article" link on the left sidebar, and sends you to a completely random Wikipedia article. I feel like this could also be helpful as a means to gaining familiarity with unfamiliar topics. For example, a few that came up were a description of birds in Yemen, an English journalist and publicist named Derek Taylor, and Secretary of State for Scotland. You may have to click a couple times to find something that could be useful, but some of the topics are really out there... like LSAT RC passages.

Obviously, this can't replace any of the main RC study tools like doing actual RC sections, reading dense articles, etc., but it could be useful if you just have a few minutes here or there.

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Saturday, Sep 26 2015

I actually purposefully take PTs when I'm not completely rested. I know that I'll have too much anxiety the night before the actual LSAT and won't be able to sleep much. Knowing this, I've been making sure my recent PTs mimic this particular test-day condition so I can learn to deal with it. I agree with @ that you should at least try it once. If you do worse than usual, you can figure out what specific weaknesses manifest when you're tired. If you do just as well as usual, then you can have some peace of mind that a less-than-perfect night of sleep won't hold you back. During the June administration, I kept stressing out over the fact that I had gotten a bad night of sleep and I think being preoccupied with this played a negative role in my performance. For October, I know I'm capable of hitting an ideal score even if I've slept minimally.

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Friday, Sep 25 2015

I was also very disappointed with my June score. A big issue that I had during my first round of studying was taking older PTs and not familiarizing myself with the newest ones. So make sure to focus most on the recent tests.

Have you taken PT 75 since June? I studied for a couple months after the test and then took it again (without having ever looked at the test and answers). I felt that BRing and reviewing the entire thing was super helpful in seeing what my problem areas were and determining what, if anything, was a result of anxiety. Turns out my fundamental skills were bad and I've been able to work on that a lot. I also saw that I had bubbled D for the last three answers of every section, so I had obviously run out of time on every section -- something I somehow did not remember. So definitely retake PT 75 if you haven't already and use it as a guideline for what you need to focus on. If your skills are there, just work on getting faster.

It's unlikely that you got a fluke bad score both times around, and that's actually a good thing! This way, you can work to identify and fix your weaknesses. Good luck!

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Tuesday, Aug 25 2015

What kind of mistakes are they? I know that I tend to go through the rules so quickly that I often skip over a rule accidentally, which obviously messes up the whole game. One way I've resolved this for myself is by quickly numbering each rule before I actually read them. I just spot out where each new sentence begins in the list of rules and number it. Then I make sure I have the same number of rules on my game board annotations when I've written it all out. This way, I don't miss any.

Another thing that I've seen suggested a lot is to read the rules once, don't notate anything, and then do a second read-through and start notating then. That way you have an idea of how the rules work together and have a bit more familiarity with how the game works, which should minimize mistakes too.

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Tuesday, Sep 22 2015

The second I opened my 180 watch from its packaging, the reset screw fell out. I was able to catch it and screw it back in and it works, so if you can find any similar type of screw, it should work too! I would see if their customer service would mail a single screw to you. Otherwise, I'm sure a watch repair shop can help you!

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Thursday, Aug 20 2015

@.hopkins Thanks for the insight and putting things into perspective. Let's do this!

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Thursday, Aug 20 2015

I like the comparative passages too, @ ! It's definitely easier for me to maintain my focus through two separate 2-paragraph passages as opposed to one long 4-paragraph one.

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Thursday, Aug 20 2015

@ I've been studying at a slow pace for almost a year, mixed in with a full-time job. I would say LR is now my best section thanks to the LSAT Trainer and 7sage articles here and there. (Can't say LG is best because of the random crazy games.) I don't find many LR questions difficult, especially not when BRing. With the 70s, I'm finding that I can't even perfectly comprehend explanations after doing BR -- something that has never happened before. I guess I'll have to put on my big girl diapers like @ and burn through the section faster so I can spend time on the tough questions.

Somewhat reassuring that others don't find the 70s harder...

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Thursday, Aug 20 2015

@ In PT 72, for example, section 2 question 16 was written in such a way that made it very easy to misinterpret the argument (beyond what I feel is typical in PTs), and then there was a perfect wrong answer choice that matched the incorrect flaw. And section 4 question 7 presented a really hard situation to follow, which made it difficult for me to assess where the flaw was.

Hi guys! I'm wondering what your opinions are about the relative difficulty of the PTs in the 70s range compared to basically everything that came before them (PTs 30 and up). I've found that especially in the LR sections, the questions are SUPER nitpicky and rely on you finding very subtle nuances in the stimulus, which is difficult to do under the pressure of the clock. Also, many LR questions seem to have needlessly wordy structures and are confusingly phrased. It's making me nervous for the October test, especially since I feel that only tests 70-75 are exact indicators of what will be on the October test, and that's a limiting amount of study materials. June administration ruined my life. :(

Does anyone else feel like the recent tests got harder/different?

Hi Guys,

I'm a very committed POE-er, but I was wondering if anyone has found any benefit in not doing it for specific scenarios. For example, say you've prephrased the exact flaw in a flaw question or know what the sufficient assumption has to be in a SA question. If you find the exact prephrase in answer choice A, would you mark it down and move on, or still read over the remaining answer choices?

Do you guys always do POE or are there exceptions? Obviously skimming the remaining choices doesn't take much time, but my skimming is really half-hearted when I feel that I've already found the correct answer. So in my case, it does end up being a poor use of time, if even 5 seconds.

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Tuesday, Sep 08 2015

Thanks so much @.hopkins. That was so incredibly helpful. You're so right -- it's really easy to allow questions or passages suck up a ton of time. It's also really easy to just set a time limit and move on and come back later. This was so helpful. THANK YOU!!

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Tuesday, Sep 08 2015

Thank you @ and @.janson35 !

Hi everyone, I'm hoping someone has some suggestions on the best way to drill/study/practice in order to improve speed. I finally feel really solid in my fundamentals. On my last PT (74), I scored a 168 with a BR of 176, which is typical of my most recent PTs (usually more of 169/BR173). I'm at the point where I'm understanding all the problems and most of my wrong answers are due to rushing/guessing when I'm running out of time, or just generally rushing through the section and making dumb mistakes. On a typical PT, I usually don't get to at least one question at the end of an LR section, and my last RC passage is usually started with only 6 minutes on the clock.

I know my biggest obstacle is time and that this will be fixed with more and more practice. I'm taking in October and have a lot of time (only working part-time) and have a lot of material left that I can use (Cambridge packets, PTs I've never taken, etc.).

Right now, I'm doing 2 recent PTs per week. What should I do as far as practice in addition to this? Should I drill questions in Cambridge packets so I can gain more familiarity and answer questions faster? Should I drill entire sections of old PTs? Should I give myself less than 35 minutes when drilling sections or taking PTs? Any help is so appreciated.

Thanks for any suggestions you may have! :)

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Monday, Sep 07 2015

@ @ I never really learned the fundamentals of NA and SA from the study materials I first used to learn about LR (Powerscore), which could have been either because it went completely over my head or because they didn't teach it well. I had been winging it on these questions the whole time. The LSAT analytics tool on 7sage helped me identify that this was actually a problem area.

I read the 7sage articles I could find for free on these question types (I'm not enrolled in any of the programs) and also picked up the Manhattan LR book, which was incredibly helpful. The Manhattan book has a lot of chapters dedicated to Assumption questions, so it clarified everything for me. Embarrassing, but after almost a year of studying, I only now truly understand what the difference between the two are. After re-learning it all, I applied my new knowledge to the Cambridge NA and SA packets to solidify my understanding. I do a little bit each day, and really feel confident in my abilities on these questions.

I started by doing the questions in the Cambridge packet untimed and doing a careful review after every page so I didn't reinforce any bad habits or incorrect logic. There are a lot of great LR answer choice explanations on the web. I used the free Manhattan forums but I think with the 7sage enrollments, you get a ton of question explanations as well. Once I was consistently getting every question right in the packets, I started to do two pages at a time, timing myself on a stopwatch and trying to go at a test-taking pace. I do a rough calculation of what my average time was per question. I try to be under 1:30 per question. I haven't missed a Necessary or Sufficient Assumption question in 3 PTs, which is significant because it is a very common (the most common?) question type. Hopefully this is helpful to you guys!

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Friday, Sep 04 2015

Hey @, I actually had the same concern recently and posted my own thread about this: http://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/3690/recent-70s-pts-harder-than-others

I think the test definitely has changed, but the changes are very very subtle and really not big deals. You can definitely adapt to them. Once I started taking tests in the 70s range, I was shocked to find that my score was reverting back to my cold/diagnostic score. But after doing a few of these newer tests and making sure to do really detailed reviews of these tests (as with any test), my scores have bounced right back to my normal range. It wasn't even a slow progression back to where I was. So, I totally understand where you're coming from. Just spend a lot of time reviewing every single question on the newer PTs (including those you got right) and with a few more tests, it will all make sense again.

For me, I think one of the changes was harder necessary and sufficient assumption questions. I was already very shaky with this question type and putting them in scientific terminology made them impossible for me. I brushed up on NA and SA questions (which turns out I never understood) and they're a breeze now. I think the test is still standardized and still testing the same fundamentals, but maybe in ways we aren't used to if we've been focusing on older material. Just focus on these new tests now and be diligent about your BRs and your reviews, and everything will be fine. Identify your weaknesses and work on them. You'll do great in October!

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Thursday, Oct 01 2015

Yeah, the older exams used to have basic algebra on them. An older partner at my firm thinks I'm a moron since I'm studying so hard for a test that she remembers to be on simple high school concepts. :'(

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