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I have not done as many of tests to get a conclusion, but I heard there is a difference, is that true? anything you guys noticed?
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Sunday, Jul 30 2017
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Longer more convulted stimulus.
Weakening questions are harder because they AC kinda just calls the argument into question but isn't like a direct attack.
RRE/MSS seem trickier
More trap AC
Harder to use process of elimination for wrong AC.
That's just a few of what I've noticed
Thanks for the information! BTW, is the older ones you refer to ?
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Saturday, Feb 25 2017
hey honey, can I join this study group？ i also take the June exam
A long, strange LSAT journey Top-Law-Schools.com
Postby fredfred » Fri Jul 03, 2015 2:21 pm
This is my experience with the LSAT and it should be read by anyone who is looking for LSAT motivation.
In college, I started thinking about the LSAT and law school. I went to a free kaplan session where there is a proctor (tutor) and he gives a full exam. I had not prepared at all and left with a 143. My head was spinning and I went to talk to an advisor of mine. He said if someone wants to go to law school, they should have started studying in high school. That was his serious advice. It takes 3-4 years to master the LSAT at a minimum (he went to HYS law and Princeton PHD so the dude is extremely smart himself). That did not help my confidence.
Fast forward a year. Just graduated college, I was headed to graduate school. It is June 1st, 2014. It was the first time I seriously tried to study, aiming for the September exam. I was doing okay, never really breaking 160. Games was my worst section, going -15/-20 at a time. Having access to some family support, I reached out to a tutor to teach me games. Worth every penny and started going -10, then -5, then -1. Progress! Unfortunately reasoning wasn't progressing as I would have liked, but I was getting tutored on Skype as my graduate school was far away. I was doing what my tutor told me all the way up through the September exam and was pting mid 160s. Eventually September came and I received a high 150's score. I was devastated. 4 months of work, lots of money, and still not even breaking 160. I was distraught, a failure, a waste. This was all in the mist of graduate school and it was just awful.
I take a month off of studying and decided to try again in December. I dumped my tutor (but LG was a massive improvement getting to -0) and decided instead of trying to learn everything just focus on LR. I had games down and just needed LR help. I buckled down for a few months and studied hard. December came, did great on games and not as great on LR, but a significant improvement. I had been pting from 164-174 on any given test. Come December, I went -6 on RC. Received a mid 160s score. Was devastated again, how could I possibly get into a t14? My dreams were over.
I applied everywhere and had a good cycle. Got serious scholarship money from top 20 schools and wl at a few t14. I decided on one top 20 with a nice scholarship and my parents were proud, I was proud, it actually was all okay. But something was bugging me, it was the LSAT. I felt like twice it had won, twice it beat me yet I wanted to try again. My parents said no, why even go through this again?
So I signed up for June. I threw out everything I knew about the LSAT and started at PT 1. I took EVERY SINGLE LSAT from 1-76 (or whatever it is) and then redid 60-76 again. I wasn't trying to beat the test or learn the test, rather I was just going through it systematically. If I got a RC question wrong, I spent 15 minutes breaking down every answer choice and trying to figure out where I went wrong and which one is more right. I did this for 4 months, on top of grad school.
It now brings me to this moment. I received a mid 170s score in the 99th percentile in June. Within 12 hours of the score, I had received a call from a t14 I was rejected from offering me unsolicited admission along with 2 others just outside the t14. It looks like I will be sitting out a year and reapplying.
What this is all about ultimately is I had around a 30 point increase from first pt to June 2015. It was a full year of studying with small breaks in between. You don't need a tutor. What he taught me I found the same on youtube for free. What matters is you determination to really work at it. Actually take every single PT ever given over and over. By my actual count, I have taken over 150 full pts this past year (obviously repeating each one at some point). My professor was wrong, you don't need 4 years of study. You need 1 and the determination to do it.
tl;dr I started from the bottom (143) and now I am here (mid 170s). Good luck, you can do it.
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Friday, Sep 15 2017
"I get paid to read, write, think, talk and argue—all things I would do anyway." I saw a similar question in Quora and this answer
Hey guys,
Do you go back to review your wrong questions, such as one week later after the blinde review? or do you review them before the real LSAT test?
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Tuesday, Jun 13 2017
same here, I canceled my score because that section
Hey, I am just curious, cuz someone told me we have to do all the PrepTest at least twice before taking the exam, how many do you usually do?
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Monday, Dec 12 2016
I tried few, but I gave up because of the side effect. One kind made me fatigue and dizzy in the morning, another one always brought me strange dreams. Now I meditate before bed, there are some meditation apps you could find,and they usually have sessions for sleep. Just listen to it before bed, that really helps.
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Friday, Nov 11 2016
I think there is a more obvious distinction between C and the right answer. The conclusion says give → laudable, not give → not wrong; however the C states give → not wrong, which is a distortion.
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Monday, Apr 10 2017
Stimulus said those people fear of dying. But in common sense depressed people are eager to die. That‘’s also why C does not make sense.
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Friday, Jun 09 2017
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hey Alex!! thanks for the information! however I still have a question, as you may familiar about the dual degree. I have noticed like NW's MBA-JD dual degree, all of their graduates go to law firms instead of iBanks, whats your opinion about this? Thanks!
Ditto on this question. I see a lot of the top programs offer sometime of JD/MBA program. Have you ever considered doing this?
I actually did considered and took the GMAT exam. But Alex points out what I worried about. It's a huge investment(time and money), except some school let you graduate in three years for both degree, but almost every school gave no discount for the tuition, the total fee is MBA's tuition+ JD's tuition. And finally, as Alex said, you can only pick one path to go, ended up in a same position in a same firm as JD graduates. Also, because you have to do the both degree in the same time as one degree, but time is limited. You have to be smart enough and maybe sleep less to have a competitive GPA as others. Some business school and law school are not in the same campus, the commute time and less choice of curriculum also adds up difficulties. So just from my point of view, it's a good combination of degrees, but I am just not confident in myself in choosing this way.
So you think about that too? what's your opinion about this?
I really don't think they are good investments or ideas. Like I said, the skills where you would use both MBA/JD jobs just don't really exist. I'm sure someone's uncle's brother has one... lol
There's jobs where they certainly can help, but they tend to be executives and COO/CEOs Hedge Fund Managers, that type of deal. Big Consulting firms.... Just things that are nearly impossible to get right out of school with those degrees.
Thanks for your insights!
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Friday, Jun 09 2017
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hey Alex!! thanks for the information! however I still have a question, as you may familiar about the dual degree. I have noticed like NW's MBA-JD dual degree, all of their graduates go to law firms instead of iBanks, whats your opinion about this? Thanks!
Ditto on this question. I see a lot of the top programs offer sometime of JD/MBA program. Have you ever considered doing this?
I actually did considered and took the GMAT exam. But Alex points out what I worried about. It's a huge investment(time and money), except some school let you graduate in three years for both degree, but almost every school gave no discount for the tuition, the total fee is MBA's tuition+ JD's tuition. And finally, as Alex said, you can only pick one path to go, ended up in a same position in a same firm as JD graduates. Also, because you have to do the both degree in the same time as one degree, but time is limited. You have to be smart enough and maybe sleep less to have a competitive GPA as others. Some business school and law school are not in the same campus, the commute time and less choice of curriculum also adds up difficulties. So just from my point of view, it's a good combination of degrees, but I am just not confident in myself in choosing this way.
So you think about that too? what's your opinion about this?
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Friday, Jun 09 2017
hey Alex!! thanks for the information! however I still have a question, as you may familiar about the dual degree. I have noticed like NW's MBA-JD dual degree, all of their graduates go to law firms instead of iBanks, whats your opinion about this? Thanks!
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Friday, Jun 09 2017
Hey Alex, I was curious about the salary of iBank. I saw those salary reports from top MBA schools (most of their students went to iBank), but it shows their average are around 130,000 a year. seems this is fewer than working for top law firms. So whats your opinion about this?
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Friday, Jun 09 2017
don't worry you will be fine, have a good sleep and relax
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Tuesday, Aug 08 2017
I have emailed Harvard law, they said they only take the Verbal part into consideration. So, that's pretty much no difference with taking the LSAT?
Below is the email
"Quantitative factors, while informative, do not play a decisive role in our selection process. We have no computational methods for making admission decisions, no mechanical short cuts, no substitutes for careful assessment and good judgment. All completed applications are reviewed in their entirety with the LSAT and/or GRE as one factor in an overall assessment of academic promise, personal achievement, and potential contribution to the vitality of the student body.
Thank you for your interest in Harvard Law School.
Sincerely,
J.D. Admissions "
Hey guys, I was wondering whether the #19 is usually the most difficult question of each LR section? anyone has the same feeling?
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Thursday, Nov 03 2016
there will be nothing. we worked hard in training and we will get through it!
As far as I am concerned, there are at least two important factors in the question you raised. First, whether you have the citizenship of CA/US. Second, how is your own background. You may notice there are people who attend school in Australia but back to CA/US after graduation, those people usually have some strong ties back there. Personally I know a girl, a US citizen, who graduated from UNSW in Sydney and went back to DC and started clerkship in a court. So I believe there is workable way, but vary from person to person.