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Almost finished! It was a crazy and unpredictable cycle. I'm 2.9/169.
Admitted
GW (0$)
ASU (24k/year)
UC-Irvine (waiting on scholarship info)
Seton Hall (45k/year)
Rutgers (18,800/year)
Brooklyn (16k/year)
Case Western (40K/year)
Waitlists
BC, Alabama, Temple, Cardozo, St. John's, American (a couple of YPs in there, I think)
Rejections
NYU, Fordham, Northeastern, NYLS, Michigan (very jealous of the person with the same numbers as me who got in!)
Ghost:
Villanova
Hofstra
I’m 39 and had no LORs from profs. I had two higher ranking colleagues and a client. I was accepted to 4 schools (GW, ASU, Seton Hall, Rutgers). If you’re out of school a while, you do not LOR from profs.
I would ask them, but I think so. The way the underrepresented groups question focuses on specific groups, whereas a candidate can be diverse for any number of reasons. When I applied to NYU, I submitted a DS about how my mother suffered from mental illness and how that impacted my worldview. I think today "diversity" is construed broadly.
Necessary can be sufficient, but I don’t think a sufficient can be necessary. I’d love to hear others thoughts on this though.
If that happened, then the conclusion wouldn’t hold, because then the examination wouldn’t be a fair representation of their ability (as the argument claims it is). That’s why the assumption is necessary. If the necessary assumption fails (isn’t true), then the conclusion can’t be made.
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The conclusion is: the best drivers drive best with a supervisor aboard and when they’re alone.
Now, if it wasn’t true that drivers are pretty much all affected in about the same way when they’re being evaluated, the conclusion wouldn’t hold, because that enters the idea into the equation that some drivers get more nervous than others when being watched. The argument assumes that they’re all pretty much equally nervous.
Toward the end of my studying I bounced around for that very reason, except for the last week when I did a bunch of very recent PTs. Although I tell my students now to use 1-30 for drills, 31-50 for practice sections, and 51+ for full length PTs.
Yes! It’s still very early. How long have you been writing PS and other docs? Make sure your app is strong, and there’s no reason why you wouldn’t get in. If you want scholarships though, I’d bump up the LSAT.
If your issue is spotting the conclusion or the flaw, it sounds like a reading problem. Are you reading them closely enough? Often though, in a level 5 question, the language is fine and normal. It’s just the answer choices are really freakin tricky. When I was questions 15-23, my guard would always be up, thinking this q could be ridiculously hard. My thing was to always be very careful in the answers. I would keep my prediction loose. Something like, “It should address X and Y.” Then, in the answers, I would only eliminate the ones at first that were blatantly wrong. The others, I would examine and scrutinize, and see how they could get me to the answer. Good luck!
Somebody is probably also in this boat. I took the November test and feel pretty ok that I got a goal score. But who knows? I want to register for the January test to secure a good testing site (live in NYC...:some are dreadful), but I don’t want to burn 150$ if I drop out because I got a plenty good enough score for my goals. (Also, LSAC isn’t offering a 100% refund for November test takers like they have in the past)). So here’s the question: anyone have experience with a good testing center closing on them? I called LSAC today and they said the testing center I want (Queens College) has 300 seats left. I’m guessing that enrollment is going to skyrocket the day scores come out. Anybody else monitoring January testing centers?
I re-took the June 2018 LSAT today. I remember when I took it in June and RC was my first section. When I turned the page and saw the passage was on Borges and fiction, I was elated. All of my nerves disappeared. I worship Borges. To me, there's writers, and then there's great writers, and then there's Borges. He's a marvel of literature. I've read almost almost all of his short fiction ("The Aleph" and "Tlön, Uqbar, Orbis Tertius" are my faves) and have taught his work at colleges. I know a lot about him (his love for magnifying glasses, how he went blind late in life, his career as a librarian in Buenos Aires). He's a GOD to me. But did this help me that day, or today, on my RC? Nope! That RC section, and that passage, picks me apart. Usually I'm -3 to -5 on RC. Today I went -9. And 3/6 on the Borges passage. Just goes to show, sometimes having previous knowledge doesn't help. If anything, I think my Borges' biases on that section was a hindrance.
I would do more research into this, but I would say no, don't do that. It may be a good idea for your application to answer the "why law school" question, but do not feel the need to say "Why X law school." Take this as an opportunity for them to get to know you in a meaningful way, something powerful that you experienced that caused you to grow as a person (and yes, part of that growth might include, "why law school").
I just took the LSAT at CUNY Law. It was...ok. Comfortable chairs and tables, but a lot of construction outside. A siren went off in the construction site next door about every 5-10 minutes. Also, the elevated 7 train is right there, so you hear that too. And, it's right in the middle of a heavy foot traffic zone so you can hear people talking outside, dogs barking, etc. It would be better if the rooms were soundproof, like they are at Fordham Law, where I took the July test and didn't hear a live concert that was right outside the door at Lincoln Center. I would do Fordham again, but they're not offered as a testing center in January. Has anybody ever taken it at Queens College? If so, how was it? I obviously wouldn't give a full recommendation for CUNY Law (even though it has rave reviews on various sites, but perhaps this was old when Long Island City wasn't one big construction site). Thanks for any feedback! (PS, I also took it at Wagner College at Staten Island and could give feedback on that).
With those numbers you can get into UVA, Northwestern, Georgetown et al. Don’t delay going to law school for another year because you want to go to Stanford. There’s other schools than HYS. People who go to schools ranked 7-20 tend to also have great careers! In my opinion, eventually we have to let go of this test, and go to law school. That’s why we took this test in the first place (I got a 169 as well. Would’ve loved a 172, but it wasn’t in the cards).
Sounds like you’re looking at Fordham, Cardozo et al. I applied to NYU with a 169/2.9. Totally expecting to get rejected, but I figured they needed my $135 haha
These symptoms sound very severe, but I wouldn’t use them as a means to explain your score. Generally, LSAT addendum should be for variations in score, which you have (I wrote one for a 20 point disparity). But I wouldn’t say anything beyond that. It can come across as you making an excuse. In terms of test taking conditions, etc, why wouldn’t they think this could be a problem for the bar exam? I would be very careful with this.
Hey everybody!
My childhood best friend has been an associate at Paul Weiss (prestigious big law firm--JY actually worked there) for about 8 years. He went to Columbia Law School and clerked for a State Supreme Court judge (now I'll stop talking about him). What do you think about a LOR from him saying, 'I've known him for 25 years, and in my experience in the legal profession, I think he'd be remarkably successful because of X reason, Y reason, Z reason." Does that seem weird? Thanks for any input!
You don’t need to go into detail about the events that led up to it. Just say something simple like, “I was arrested for X on January 1, 1992. After insufficient evidence, X charge was dropped. The type of behavior that led to being involved in an arrest is not a part of my life anymore.” If you start going into a lot of detail about it, it just makes the adcomms think it’s a bigger deal than it is.
I know there's been posts about this, so I'm so sorry.
I jumped 6 points from November to January (Yay! I got my target score!). I have a 12 point deferential from the June test.
Is it required to write an addendum? Would the schools expect it? A couple explicitly state it, and I have one written. Should I sent it for the schools that didn't?
Thanks for any input!
100% yes write an addendum and explain this
Anybody do the video interview for St. John's? If so, what were the questions like? Should I wear a suit while I film myself? Do you get a chance to do retakes? What did you think of it?
Hey gang!
When I took the November LSAT, I bubbled all of my answers at once, at the very end when 5 minutes was called. I'm trying out a new bubbling method. I'm liking giving myself micro breaks now, and bubbling as I go along. My issue is with questions I've circled---skipped questions that I don't want to turn back to until the very end. Typically I circle them on the test booklet, but now with the bubbling method, I'd like to bubble the other answers in and leave that one blank. My fear is that I'll forget that blank space later on. Can I circle or dash or mark in some way the number for that question on the actual scantron? Does anybody do this? Thanks for any input!
I highly recommend doing the games! They're generally harder so it's great practice.
Thanks for letting me know @! I would be interested in working with Selene though. Cardozo is a target school, and I would love to hear her insights. Is that possible? Also, after materials are all sent, generally how long is the turnaround time? I would be looking to begin the review within a couple weeks. Thanks for your help!
Keep your answer predictions very flexible (at least for the hard ones). For weakening/strengthening I phrase it into a question: why is too expensive? Why bigger? Etc, rather than having a narrow focus. On thé first read through of the answers only eliminate the really wrong ones, and give the others a chance. Don’t eliminate an answer because it sounds weird or doesn’t match your prediction. Maybe that extra second of contemplation could change your perspective.
Tis that time of year! Anyone want to swap LOCI? Let's show those adcomms just how excited and well-informed we are!
Hey gang!
My LOCI is clocking in at about 550 words. It's one page, with 8 inch margins, single spaced (spaces between paragraphs). Is this too long? I'm trying to be as specific as possible and name what I would do as a student: specific orgs, clubs, clinics, what I uniquely offer the school, etc. I also visited the school (tour, sat with adcomm, and saw a class) so I reflect on that a bit. What do you think? Are there rules in this? Thanks!
An idea just occurred to me about how to approach MP questions in RC. My accuracy in these Qs is about 80%, but obviously I'd like this higher, and it can still be a tricky question type for me (i.e, time sink). A strategy I started using in LR MP questions is if it's a tough one where two answers are nearly identical, I say to myself, "Which one could potentially support the other?" The one that could give support is not the answer. This usually works. I'm wondering if I could apply that same logic to RC questions. Are RC MP questions asking what is the conclusion? Is there a difference in this context between "Main Point" and "conclusion" (Which would mean that the main point, i.e, conclusion, would require the support of premises)? Anybody ever have the same approach? I'm going to start implementing it, but I figure I'd get some feedback. Happy studying!
7Sage has been wonderful. I want to stay connected to the community--read and post on discussion form, etc. Also, I'd love to keep watching LG videos, and look at free admissions course stuff. What do I have access to? Do I keep the same login as normal, but lose access to stuff?
Also, if I delete the app on my phone and re-upload the app later (I'm limiting internet for a while, until my apps are complete), will my account/password work? Sorry if this has been addressed before. I looked for the answer and couldn't find it. Thanks!
Hey gang!
I'm sending out my apps this week! In some of my docs---resume, a couple of schools' personal statements---I pushed the margins out pretty wide, .5 or .4 on all sides. Anyone know of ad-comms being annoyed by wide out margins? To my knowledge, none of them say, "1 inch margins all around" but they do say "12 point font, double spaced" which I have.
Thanks for any feedback!
At a disadvantage against July? Yes. Luckily, though, there are few geniuses and Bob will overall do just fine (given he continues in his pattern of studying and doesn’t have a total meltdown).
How much of a refund will they give you if you register for November and then drop out (because, let's say you love your July score)? If you're willing to lose that money, then do it.
I wouldn't worry about 5 times. July was my 5th time. 5 is generally ok for most schools, but 6 is when a problem begins. Definitely don't take the LSAT unless you're consistently scoring in your desired range on timed, fully simulated PTs.
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I would love to exchange both and see how they work in tandem. Let me know if you'd like some eyes on yours!
Hey!
I’m sure many of you know this, but in case you don’t, something you can do is put the January test at the testing center you love in your LSAC cart. It will stay there for 24 hours—until after you get your score!!—and you don’t pay. Then, once you get your score tomorrow you can decide if you want to retake. I’m guessing thousands of people are registering tomorrow morning, and you don’t want to be left testing at Ben Franklin Elementary School. Good luck!
I see why you diagram SA, but I don't know why you would diagram NA. For NA, the answer is a MBT. Just go in looking for a MBT, and then negate the answer. If negating it would wreck the argument, then that's the answer.
Is it the time of year to be asking this, or what?
So here's what happened: I visited a school I am applying to this past week---went on a tour, observed a class, and spoke with the Dean of Admissions. I consider this school a safety. I applied in mid-January and went complete Feb 15 when the January LSAT came out. I have been under review since February at this school. When I spoke to the Dean, she said to me, "Aren't we still waiting on something for your application?" I hope my jaw did not drop when she said this, because internally I was freaking the freak out. I said I didn't think so, and she told me that they would respond to my app this week or next week. It made me start worrying, though, that other schools are sitting on my apps, not reading them while they dish out all their scholarship money, and I'll be left in the dust, because they think they're waiting on something too. It's totally possible that that adcomm said that with no context, and was just saying it.
Would it be weird, or hurtful to my app in any way, to contact the other schools and ask them if my app is ok? If they need something? My status checkers all say, "Complete and Under Review" or something of that sort. When I asked this question on Reddit they said that the school would ask if my app needed something. Also, a lot of people who are February applicants are saying they haven't heard back yet. What do you think?
My recommender was just asking me to whom he should address the LOR to. I told him just write "Dear Law School Admissions Committee" on there since I'm using his LOR for all the schools I'm applying to. That's ok, right? A school wouldn't look down upon that, would they?
I live in NYC where there's good testing centers and horrible ones. The first time I took the LSAT I signed up really early, and there were scarce options (I don't know why). I ended up having to drive to Staten Island in crazy traffic in the morning. Now, instead, I monitor the testing centers and see which ones are opening up. Sometimes people drop and a center that was full now has availability. Also, a testing center that wasn't available suddenly appears. Yesterday, I was thinking I was going to have to drive to Staten Island again, and then, lo and behold, Queens College appears today. I'm so thankful I was patient.
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Almost finished! It was a crazy and unpredictable cycle. I'm 2.9/169.
Admitted
GW (0$)
ASU (24k/year)
UC-Irvine (waiting on scholarship info)
Seton Hall (45k/year)
Rutgers (18,800/year)
Brooklyn (16k/year)
Case Western (40K/year)
Waitlists
BC, Alabama, Temple, Cardozo, St. John's, American (a couple of YPs in there, I think)
Rejections
NYU, Fordham, Northeastern, NYLS, Michigan (very jealous of the person with the same numbers as me who got in!)
Ghost:
Villanova
Hofstra
So weird how you got rejected at Northeastern. You think it's YP? What schools are you most considering right now? Not a bad selection you have there!
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Almost finished! It was a crazy and unpredictable cycle. I'm 2.9/169.
Admitted
GW (0$)
ASU (24k/year)
UC-Irvine (waiting on scholarship info)
Seton Hall (45k/year)
Rutgers (18,800/year)
Brooklyn (16k/year)
Case Western (40K/year)
Waitlists
BC, Alabama, Temple, Cardozo, St. John's, American (a couple of YPs in there, I think)
Rejections
NYU, Fordham, Northeastern, NYLS, Michigan (very jealous of the person with the same numbers as me who got in!)
Ghost:
Villanova
Hofstra
So weird how you got rejected at Northeastern. You think it's YP? What schools are you most considering right now? Not a bad selection you have there!
Thank you! I’m considering UCI, Seton Hall, and Rutgers.
If someone has their test date postponed for a couple days after the scheduled test date, are they given a different version of the test in any way? I imagine the 4 scored sections would have to be the same (they are, right?), but are the experimental sections the same as well? Anyone with experience with this?
Hey everybody!
So I've been going back to PTs19-28 for the past month and have been averaging -3 on RC (which is great for me). Then I just took a more recent test and got killed on the comparative passage. This is what I'm thinking about my strategy:
Read each passage, marking 3-word summaries in the margins of the paragraphs. At the end of each passage, write the main idea of each passage. I will try to consider them individually at first to get a good sense of one without always thinking about how it interacts with the other.
Then, I'll write a little table. At the top I write "Link:" and find the theme/idea that essentially links these two passages. In the table, I'll write two columns: S (for similarities), D (for differences). I'll list what they have in common, and ideas they do not share at all. Id like to do this work up front, because I think I wouldn't struggle with the questions and have to go back to the text all that much.
Does anyone have any strategies they'd like to share?
Hey everybody!
I've been thinking about this for a while, and I just re-watched the video on Contrapositive Mistakes, which has cemented my feelings. Do you know in Flaw questions where the answers will say something like, "Takes a necessary condition for an argument's being inadequate to be a sufficient condition for an argument's being inadequate"? Sometimes answer choices in Flaw questions really trip me up, and one thing that always confused me is: what's the difference between confusing sufficient for necessary as opposed to confusing necessary for sufficient? I read a forum on PowerScore about this that claimed that they are not the same, but to me, they are, because they are the contrapositive of each other.
Confusing Sufficient for Necessary
A---->B
A/----->/B
This is making the sufficient necessary because after you fail A you fail B, instead of the rule falling away as it's supposed to.
Confusing Necessary for Sufficient
A----->B
B------>A
Here it's taking the necessary condition and moving it to the sufficient, which is wrong.
But, isn't A/---->/B just the contrapositive of B---->A? And therefore, in Flaw questions that use this incorrect form of logical reasoning, wouldn't either answer choice (confusing necessary for sufficient OR sufficient for necessary) be correct? Has anybody else ever thought about this?
In terms of distraction/focus, once I had a proctor, in a very small room, put on headphones and blast reggaeton. He thought we were all just hanging out having a good ol’ time.