I have been using the 7sage iOS app for quite some time, however when I went to check the grader section it automatically makes the app crash. I tried to delete and re-downlod the app and the same issue persists. Everything else except the grader works. I am confused as I was using the grader function just fine up until yesterday. Has anyone else experienced this same issue and/or know why this is the case?
@ Yeah, that's exactly why I pushed it back to June.
My timed average of last 3 exams is 160 and BR average of 173, so I need to drill LR timing with accuracy and work on LG timing, as I sometimes run out of time on the last game because of those annoying rule replacement questions. I only started taking fully timed PTs and consistently scoring Timed Low 160s/ BR 171+ in mid February, so I'm pretty confident I just needed a bit more time to bridge that gap.
About the July exam, they will let you see your score and cancel only if you end up taking the digital version, which is a 50/50 chance. Besides, I don't like digital tests and prefer the paper and pencil format.
@ I mean it definitively wouldn't hurt to talk to them beforehand. It seems that not all proctors are thoroughly trained/realize how important this exam is for those taking it and how their negligence and/or ignorance of the procedures could negatively impact one's performance.
When I saw my admission ticket for the LSAT I was previously registered, it included 3 or 4 pages which had the rules, so I would assume they would at least allow that as part of the ticket if anything. However, it is only for a worst case scenario, as I have read of some proctors who didn't allow regular analog wrist watches ever since they banned those LSAT watches. It's honestly the only item I would bring that I could see being a potential issue with an inexperienced proctor.
But I agree in that I don't want to travel that far so I'll probably sign up for the area test center. If it turns out to be that test center I read bad reviews about, I guess I'll just practice taking the test on small desks as it seems that was the only major problem with them.
And besides, this is 100% my final exam date as I've already given LSAC waaaaaay more money than I should have by switching and canceling exam dates due to my indecisiveness😅
@ How were the proctors at your exam?
From what I've read it seems that taking the test at a hotel seems better as the tables are guaranteed to be large and it shouldn't be busy or loud on a Monday afternoon. It seems that the proctors are the only wild card factor I can think of that I wouldn't be able to account for.
I did see a video from LSAT Unplugged that a way to prevent proctor issues would be to talk with them beforehand and ask them how long each section will be, if they'll give a 5 min. verbal warning, what their procedures will be, etc.
I think subtly letting them know how important it is for the exam room to be quiet, as well bringing a print out of the LSAC rules and/or confirmation email from LSAC regarding allowed materials in case they don't know the rules/try to tell you that something isn't allowed would be also be good ideas.
So I canceled my test sitting for tomorrow's exam and need to register for the June Exam: however, my nearest testing location is listed as an "Area Test Center", which essentially means that they haven't selected the test center location yet (According to LSAC). They said they will inform you of where it will be when they decide upon a location, however I find it helpful to know where you the exam will be before I sign up for it.
On top of that, my first choice testing center filled up already, even though it was available a few days ago(still kicking myself over not registering then).
I have been reading proctor and test center horror stories, and I am worried that it will end up being a crap-shoot if I go with this location, since the only test center in that area which has had exams in the past has had consistently negative reviews(Granted I couldn't find any recent reviews, but still worrisome nonetheless). I would assume that they would hold it there or possibly at a hotel (which I honestly wouldn't mind as much).
On the other hand, there are spaces available at test centers that have good reviews, but they are 3-4+ hour drives.
The longer I wait the slimmer the pickings will be.
What should I do?
Has anyone ever had any experience registering to take an exam at a "Area Test Center" without knowing exactly where it was going to be when signing up/ what the end result was?
Thank You for your input!
Thank you everybody for all of your advice and suggestions! I have decided that it is in my best interest to cancel my sitting for the March exam and to take it in June. Due to it being in the afternoon and the writing portion can be done online at a separate time, it should make the test day shorter and a bit less stressful.
The answer to everything related to the law applies here: "it depends."
It'll depend on your professor's attendance policy, whether or not you have exams on that day, the absence policy of your university, etc., etc.
If you have a/midterm(s) on that day, meet with your professor(s) during office hours and ask if you can take the exam(s) before that day. I had to do this for 2 classes when I had to leave on a trip before finals and both profs let me take the exams early. I would assume that taking it earlier is less of a hassle for them than trying to make it up later with grade deadlines and all that, but again it could depend on whether or not they have the exam prepared already.
Basically, just ask them and try to work something out if any schedule conflicts arise.
I would recommend taking the October test since you had that 3 week break and it sounds like you might need the extra time to get back up to where you were scoring before. Although the exam isn't disclosed and you won't be able to see where you messed up, it is at 12:30PM which is a plus if you're not a morning person.
Don't worry about rushing to apply to law school, it isn't going anywhere. Focus on getting the highest score possible and postpone until next cycle if necessary.
I can't attest to the 7sage materials besides their free logic games which are good, but I used the Powerscore Bibles + workbooks, as well as lsathacks.com and ManhattanPrep forums for free test question explanations.
Bummer that you didn't take the July one though because they will let you see your score before deciding whether or not to cancel it and you get a free retake if you do cancel.
@ Thank you for your advice, it truly provided me with some much needed insight!
You are correct, as I have been binging on trying to take the most PTs possible before the exam without allowing sufficient time to absorb the material in between tests.
It seems that I have been working harder rather than smarter.
I already had a tutor a few years ago from Testmasters. He was able to help me significantly with LR, however he didn't have much to offer with LR or RC, so I don't think I particularly need one for skills but I'll look into it. Besides, I've already spent quite a chunk of change between materials and switching test dates, and I don't quite make a lawyer's salary yet haha.
I'll take 1 PT this week before the exam and decide on what I should do, but it seems more likely than not that I'll end up postponing the exam one last and final time.
Since it seems you were successful in your battle against the LSAT, I was wondering if you could answer some questions regarding:
1.) What did you end up scoring? (if you don't mind)
2.) What was you study schedule when only taking 1-3 PTs a week? Would you take it timed one day and BR it the next, or take it Timed and BR it the same day and review the test throughout the week?
3.)Did your PTs correlate closely with your actual exam score?
Once again, thank you!
Hi @ , Thank you for your comment, it really helped!
My score goal would be at or around 174 (+/- 2 points).
(Most Recent Scores Last)
My Blind Review average of last 5 PTs was 172 (174, 173, 171, 175, 168)
My Timed average of last 3 PTs was 160 (159, 164, 158)
[The first 2 of the 5 PTs were only done untimed so I don't have timed scores for them ]
The reason why I wouldn't want to take a digital exam is because I generally don't like to take exams on a computer, regardless of the subject and all my prep has been centered around taking the paper exam (filling out the scantron, being able to freely write on the page, etc.).
Since I have scored my goal when I did Blind Review, I am confident that given a bit more time and practicing under test conditions I can reach my goal. I have already gone through all the Powerscore books and their supplemental materials, as well as 50+ Preptests so I want to take the test either in March and/or June. Also, I am ready to stop scheduling my life around the LSAT as prepping has sacrificed my ability to search for a full time job and to accomplish other endeavors.
My concern is that some T14 schools do average out your scores, so I wouldn't want to say, get a 160 now and a 175 in June and have that average count when I could have just gotten the higher score.
I think I may take take 1 or 2 more PTs before Friday and see how I do and decide from there.
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So I am in serious need of advice from others on here because I don't really know any people who have my issue/are serious about the LSAT. I would greatly appreciate any and all of your advice regarding how I should proceed.
I finished undergrad back in 2017 (a full year early) and decided to take some time off to work, travel and eventually take the LSAT.
I have been studying since the beginning of 2018 and originally decided that I was going to take the June 2018 test. Unfortunately, I didn't feel prepared for it and decided to push it back to August, paying the test change fee. I took it kind of easy and wasn't intense with my studying and timing, so come August I decided to cancel my sitting for the exam the week before the test and registered for the November exam. (Again) Right as the test date change deadline for the November exam came around, I decided to once again change the test date to January. Foolishly, I decided to take a week long hiatus from studying and after doing this it ultimately ruined my study schedule/habits for a few weeks until after the holidays. As the dreaded test date change deadline came once again, I changed my test date AGAIN to take the March exam. $565 later, it is now the week before the exam and I am anxious and having serious doubts about whether I should sit for this exam or push it back to the June exam.
Let me explain some background info so you can have a better idea of where I'm at right now:
I started to get serious about my studying after my January test date change and was committed to having this be my final change. I started to focus more on my understanding of LR fundamentals and how I was thinking about them. Around mid February was when I finally started to consistently hit the low-mid 170s in my untimed Blind Reviews of my PTs. I was only doing them untimed and didn't really start practicing with timed PTs until 3ish weeks before the exam. Unfortunately, my timed scores are stuck in the high 150s - low 160s, while my Blind Review scores are consistently in the low - mid 170s.
Throughout the course of my study using PTs (May 2018 - present), I have completed them all except PTs 73-86. My scores were always around low-mid 150s Timed and low-mid (no higher than 166) 160s BR until last month where I finally started to improve and was consistently scoring in the low - mid 170s Blind Review.When I started doing PTs timed after improving my Blind Review score I was scoring in the high 150s - low 160s timed and Here's how the Timed to Blind Review improvements usually look like for each section: RC= from - 6 or 7 to -4 or less ; LR (per section) = -5 to 7 to -2 or less ; LG -7 or less (usually because I don't get to finish all 4 games when I do them timed) to -0.
My indecisiveness kicked back in because I took PT 72 a few days ago (03/23) and started to worry more because I scored 158 Timed, 168 BR, which has been my first sub 170 BR score and lowest Timed/Blind review score in a month. I was planning to do 2-3 PTs every day until Friday before the test to finish the PTs I have yet to complete however I fear that I may be burning out already and that this may not be a good idea.
With my GPA, resume and the right LSAT score (170+), I think I have a decent shot at a T14 school which has ultimately been my goal since the start.
I know when you are applying to T14 schools that you really should only take the test once, so I am concerned that if I don't get the score that I want that retaking it would ultimately hurt my application. I'm also not sure if I would want to take it and have to cancel my score because it would still show up as 'score canceled' on my application.
On top of all that my sleeping schedule (my fault admittedly) is messed up and I don't seem very keen on taking the exam at 8:30AM.
June would be my last chance to take the exam because I don't like digital exams and especially don't want to risk being a guinea pig for the July 2019 exam. Also, the test is at 12:30PM and will be disclosed. However, the test center I wanted to take it at is full and I would have to travel further to take it, however that's not that big of a deal.
Each time I tell my family I have a test date and then tell them I pushed it back, they keep getting more and more skeptical of whether I can even achieve the score I want, which doesn't help either because I feel like I keep disappointing them by saying one thing and not fulfilling it, even though I won't be applying to law school for at least a year (fall 2020 or 2021).
Ultimately here's the question(s) I have:
-Would it look bad on my application to a T14 School (Especially T6s: YSH/CCN) if I took the March exam and canceled the score?
-What can I do to bridge the gap between my Blind Review and Timed scores?
-Is there really anything I can do to bridge that gap in the next 4 days?
-If I shouldn't take the March exam, how can I improve my studying so I am more efficient in bridging that gap? I have ~14 PTs which I haven't touched (73-86).
-How long before the exam should I be consistently scoring Timed to have a good idea of how I would perform under test conditions?
-How can I explain to my family once again if I change the test date that this will actually be the final test even though that is what I've been saying since November?
If you took the time to read all of this and give me your thoughts/advice/support I greatly appreciate it!
:)
Also, please excuse me if I repeat any words, phrases or if the grammar isn't perfect as it's pretty late and I just needed to get this off my chest ASAP.
UPDATE: This is no longer an issue and the grader works perfectly fine now. Thank you @
What school gives you a B+ for 91-92%?? I'm sorry to hear that but unfortunately whatever shows up on your official transcript is what will be counted. B+ will count as a 3.3, A- 3.7, A 4.0, A+ 4.3 and so on.
For instance, my school doesn't give A+s or credit above a 4.0, so when I studied abroad and got an A+ it only counted as a 4.0 for my university GPA, but since it shows as an A+ on my official transcript it'll count as a 4.33 for CAS purposes.
I don't think you would necessarily need an addendum considering the fact that law schools have an idea of how universities distribute their grades. Just like your university has that policy, others don't have A-s and would give you an A for anything 90%+, some let the professors decide if they want to give A- or A for 90%, etc. Just focus on the LSAT going forward.
If your LSAT isn't at least in the 25% of your target school you'll have an uphill battle, regardless of your GPA.
Overall, don't sweat it and focusing on getting a high LSAT score.