Wow - congratulations! Your story is what we 7sagers live for haha. Would also love to hear any advice/strategy/how long it took you to make a jump like that? i just finished the cc, took my 3rd pt and am at a plateau at 159 right now - hearing any stories like yours would be really helpful if you don't mind!
@ I'm really sorry to hear that! all i said was i noticed that lsac had moved the deadline for registration forward from what they had previously stated last month. is there a way i can still register and they said they could take care of it. I'm not sure what they would say this week though. either way, good luck!
@ thank you! you just helped alleviate a lot of test-day nerves for me
for anyone who has already taken this thing, i just wanna make sure i have the right idea about what this thing is gonna look like come test day (this weekend):
So all we do is log on to the proctoru site, when the countdown reaches 0 click to enter our "test room," have our gov issued id on us and paper nearby for the games section, and listen to the instructor from there, correct?
Anything i'm missing?
'Preciate any feedback!
@ just got off the phone with them- yes you can still register for november today! you need to call in tho. just google lsac customer service phone number and it should come up. a heads up, i called right when they opened and was on hold for 1 hour. Good luck!
I just realized this this morning too! i'm going to be calling lsac today to ask for them to register me, considering they changed their deadline and i have not signed up yet.
@ said:
Wanted to start off with a reminder of how cool of a position you're in -congratulations!
I've theorized about being in this position a bunch of times (if i'm ever so fortunate) and i think it depends on a few things. Ultimately it depends on what you want to do post graduation.
If you want the ability to make career decisions free of debt (i.e. public interest, sometimes it's easier to take a clerkship if you know you don't have a mountain of debt waiting for you to be paid off after the fact, etc) then BYU might offer you the best option.
If, however, you're willing to work pretty hard after you graduate for a few years (i.e. biglaw or a job in business that pays really well) and don't mind money being a more primary motivator behind the career decision, then Columbia is probably a better choice. I wouldn't not pick Columbia because you think you'll have a better chance at clerkships somewhere else; I don't think the 15% at Columbia getting clerkships is due to lack of ability (that's still around 50 people per class, too)
Best of luck with the decision and once again - enjoy this part!
Misread that statistic - it's actually about 25 (~5%) people at Columbia that get clerkships. Still, i don't think this is due to lack of ability, i think it probably has more to do with being in the epicenter of biglaw work and attracting that type of student body/recruiters
Hey guys,
Hope everybody is staying safe and healthy during this time.
I studied a lot of 7sage (finished LR and RC curriculum) over the summer and made great progress on practice sections, then school hit and didn't have time to keep studying during the year. I'm wondering if anybody has gotten utility out of redoing the core curriculum, or if my time would be better served just jumping back into problem sets and practice tests, since I've already completed cc once? It's been about seven months since I completed the core curriculum.
Any advice/feedback is very appreciated!
Anybody else score really low relative to their PT average? like 10 points below what you were expecting? kinda blown away not gonna lie. i felt overall pretty good on test day too
my practice tests were realistic too, didn't give myself more than a minute between each...
... was anyone else's score well below their PT average? like 10 points below? i didn't feel fantastic on test day, but wow this is kind of shocking. anybody else?
yeah apparently they weren't supposed to be released today and (fair warning) lsac allegedly said to someone that the score you saw may or may not be your actual score. so that email we received was a mistake, and the score you saw may or may not be accurate, just a heads up. it will be released tomorrow at 9am for sure (this is what i've been reading on the forums and twitter, take it all with a grain of salt)
I'm in the same boat! something's definitely going wrong here
yeah and i'm trying to call lsac, sounds like others are having teh same issue cause their lines are so busy my call won't even go through
Did anybody else get an email from LSAC that the score preview for their october lsat is available, but there is no score posted on the website? So confused right now
missed the assumption in there that there could exist someone capable of withholding exaggerated claims who is responsible. All the stimulus did was mention that the irresponsible analysts would be barred from making those claims, but left the assumption wide open that responsible people would not just, in turn, act just as the irresponsible ones did. Usually i pick up on these, but every now and then a question like this will remind you how alert you need to be while making your way through this test!
all they say is to change it through your lsac account, but i am not finding where that is in the account
Hey guys, i'm sure this is something simple that i'm just missing, but i can't seem to find where to submit my request to change my lsat date from august to october. the deadline is tonight so i know i still have time, albeit not much. if anyone can point me in the right direction, i would really appreciate it!!
Sincerely,
a scrambled 7sager
this is one of my new favorite posts i've seen, especially with the myth: "You aren't ready until you have PT'd your goal score 19 times and waited 6 years." I was dying dude.
But seriously, thank you for this!
I just received my email today that my writing sample had been approved. it took 9 business days.
i don't know if they'd notify you if your writing sample had been flagged, but i imagine that they would
Best of luck!!!
I just took my first practice test two days ago and my score was significantly lower than when I take timed sections. Even the first section was low comparatively.
What I mean by this is: timed LR section I've been around -3. But on my PT I was just about -6 on each section. Just curious if this score discrepancy occurs for others as well? If so, does it mean anything? tests I used for sections and prep tests were 48 and 51, respectively.
I feel the same way!!! When i finished the exam, i was so unsure of how it went. i felt more scattered and bad about it right after the exam, but not because of any one particular question or even a series of questions, i think it was just general adrenaline of that test.
But i'm in the same boat, about the whole not really remembering any of the questions lol. it's awful because i can't even like go back through my thought process to evaluate how i was doing - my mind just blocked out the pain lol. honestly, it's more of a blessing. that just sounds even more torturous.
Also same feelings on the exam, like it wasn't overly difficult but also not overly easy. i'm optimistic, thinking that its just a mild test, there've been plenty of those in the past (mild in terms of the LSAT, that is)
What i've tried to do during all of this is go through this thought process:
Did you get the feeling you were massively underperforming or being stupid during it? No.
Okay, so did you have one really bad LG or RC that just wrecked you? No.
Okay, how did you score previously? were you absolutely bombing PTs or problem sets? Not really, no (nerves got to me a couple days before but i wasn't bombing them)
Okay, so trust in your training leading up to this thing. It comes down to your judgement on test day and that probably has a lot more to do with the training you had leading up to the test for the months prior, which sounds like it was pretty strong for you too. you were hyped up with adrenaline which usually helps you a lot. Say it with me: trust in my training.
I know this feels torturous, I'm there with you! I'm saying a prayer for everybody on this thread - we're in this together gang!
@ I actually had a very similar mindset. since RC takes so long to improve on, implementing strategies for improvement on it earlier seems logical, but i have really fallen behind on my RC problem sets so i'm gonna give that a try. Thank you!
@ Thank you! i really like that idea of focusing on timed sections instead of just full pts.
For context, my BRs usually take me about a full day to do and i'm usually scoring in the mid 170s on them, so that makes me think that speed is what's lacking. Timed sections might be the trick i needed here. Thank you!
@ Thank you! Personally i've been able to really focus a lot on my BR, and used it kind of for my untimed learning sessions, but i see what you're saying and it could be helpful for me to try to do more of them, outside of my BR time. Really appreciate the input here!
Really good to know - thank you! sounds like doing more drilling between pts would be more helpful for me then with each section. really appreciate the input
Hey guys,
I've got a question for anybody who has made some significant increases in their scores. Previously, i thought taking pts and doing extensive BR would lead to consistent score increases alone. Now that i'm 4 pts in, and have only stayed in the 157-159 territory, i'm wondering if there's more virtue in spending days drilling instead?
Looking for perspectives because i was originally planning on taking august, but might be considering October instead. really hoping to be in the high 160s/low 170s.
What do you guys think helped you the most in your prep when you were around these scores? problem sets and drills or full practices tests with extensive BR? Thank you in advance!
Wow that's really helpful to know. it sounds like you really drilled your weaknesses effectively. i'm surprised/impressed that it only took you 15 pts (in a good way) because it shows that you must have really used your time effectively when studying your weak points, and that there are ways to improve without just drilling nonstop exams. Definitely appreciate your insight and congrats again - you're gonna have a lot of great options this cycle with a score like that!
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Most of the time when I slow down and read the question aloud I understand the logic and the reasoning. But when I try to do problem sets under timed conditions I wind up getting most of the hard questions (160+) incorrect. It feels like I just don't comprehend the question correctly in the heat of the moment because it is written in such a dense format. Anyone else have this issue and if so, does it fade with time?
For reference I'm about 2 weeks into full time (but frankly unfocused) study, planning on taking the September LSAT
@ thank you! you're definitely right about analyzing the process i use during the exam, i've been trying to make myself more calm during testing because i think that's a big source of my errors (I do much better on timed sections). And thank you for the information about the couple of pts before you saw improvement - definitely relieving to know.
Hey guys,
With all these major success stories being posted (congrats to you all, you're an inspiration for the rest of us), i would love to hear from anybody a little bit further along in their LSAT/7 sage journey. My question is about how many pts with rigorous BR did it take for you to start noticing improvement?
a few details: i've finished cc. my diagnostic was 148 2 years ago and just took my first 3 pts within 2 weeks, all 158,159, and 157 (mentally struggled on this one). these were pt 40, 41, and 42 btw. each section is actually pretty even in terms of stats (-7 LR, -8 RC, -5LR, -9 LG). i am about to start fool-proofing LG in conjunction with ~2 pts/week. trying to take August 29 and planning for October 3 too, as i would like to apply this cycle.
my BR strategy is pretty intensive. i quite literally retake the entire test and reconvince myself of every answer, and on questions that are not immediately obvious I convince myself of why every other answer choice is not correct. as a result my BR score is pretty high (173, 175, 171) for where i'm at in studying. It does take me about 2 days to do this fully.
My reason for posing this question is I want to know that i'm not wasting time with the extensive BR that i'm doing. i am putting a lot into studying for this thing - it's a labor of love, really. but i only have so much time before these exams and i want to be doing the most effective strategies possible. is the extremely extensive BR strategy worth it? or should i just be devoting more time to LG foolproofing upfront instead? i don't know how long fool-proofing will take (i was a math major in college and i can solve the entire section almost flawlessly in BR) but i'm hoping it will only be a couple of weeks so i can continue to focus on BR.
Would love to hear anecdotal advice, critiques on strategy, really anything for how you guys saw your scores increase over time!
Thank you in advance!
Wow this is incredible - congratulations! Did you feel like taking so many tests back-to-back like that is what helped you the most? I've been debating trying this or just spending more time drilling instead. Did you notice gradual improvement using this method or did something just kind of "click" for you after you hit x tests into it?