July was my first, as well! I really should have practiced more with digital because I was shitting bricks before and during, haha. Reassuring to hear I wasn't alone.
@chenyu1995308 - are you done or planning on retaking? I'm curious how to plan applications and make use of the next few months when everything feels so uncertain/dependent on my score.
Hi everyone,
I'm hoping to apply this cycle, but only if I achieve my goal score on the Sept/Oct exam. I feel like waiting until I get my scores to ask for recommendation letters from my professors will be too late, but also am concerned that after asking, I may end up needing to postpone my application until next year.
tl;dr - Can I ask for recommendation letters even if I might not end up applying this year? If so, when should I ask?
Thanks!
Hi everyone,
I think the title more or less captures the spirit of my dilemma. I went into July feeling not incredibly confident but definitely more so than I should have been. I was naively worrying about getting a 169 (since I was PTing in 170s fairly consistently), but promptly went in and had a panic attack during the first LG section and completed only two games. Would love to get some 7sager feedback on whether I should sign up to retake in September, October, or both.
For more context, I know I have some significant work ahead of me in terms of gaining confidence in logic games, to the point that I don't get shaken up by test day jitters. It seems equally possible to me that I will be more than ready for September, or not prepared until October. I'm currently leaning towards September because I'd obviously like to have my score as soon as possible to apply this cycle. I also feel that it might alleviate some of my test anxiety, since in the back of my head I'd know I still had October as an option. (A huge cause of my meltdown this time was my desperation to be perfect on my first shot.) That said, I obviously don't want to take the test again until I'm absolutely battle-ready.
Thanks in advance!
I came across a rule I'm not used to diagramming in PT 85 Game 1, and was curious if any of you have come up with a clever shorthand. I ended up coming up with one on the spot, but I think it led me to make an otherwise avoidable mistake on what should have been a straightforward game.
There are at least two slots separating H and S, but H and S are interchangeable in order. (JY used H _ _ S with a small "LL2") symbol in a switching box, but he himself called it somewhat clumsy.) When I did this game the first time around, I ended up forgetting that 2 slots was a minimum and not exact. Perhaps there's a way to make this rule clearer in the diagram and less of an afterthought?
Another more general diagramming question, not from PT 85: Values are not consecutive. I've always represented consecutive as (AB) and nonconsecutive as (AB) but find this leaves something to be desired in terms of clarity. Any and all suggestions are much appreciated!
Thanks for confirming :smile:
From a logic perspective (see below) I can't work out any meaningful differences, but I noticed that JY splits these off in his map of bi-conditional statements. Am I missing something?
A ↔ C
/A ↔ /C
Thanks, everyone, for the great feedback! Going to try skipping around a bit more as I've mainly taken a linear approach thus far, and see where it gets me.
My biggest struggle at the moment is definitely experiencing paralysis when encountering unfamiliar game types, of which there have been quite a few in the more recent PTs (late 70s-early 80s). Trying to get more comfortable with being uncomfortable at this point, and also save myself some time in earlier games to have a contingency in place for these "unusual" game types.
Despite having gone through the core curriculum and JY's explanation videos multiple times, where he frequently skips around to local questions with premises before tackling global ones, I still approach logic games questions in order unless I'm really stuck. I've found in the past that LG questions often build on inferences from previous questions, something you might miss if you skip around.
Anyone have a particularly firm opinion on either approach? Would love to hear your thoughts!
Print out some Problem Sets or use the Question Bank to build your own PTs! I hate studying Logic Games as they're my weakest section so I try spreading them out in bursts throughout the day.