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Friday, Jun 28 2024

They say to save the newer ones (PT80 and up) for when you want to simulate actual testing and sort of "temperature check" yourself in terms of how you would actually score. On the other hand, the rest of the tests should be used to really master the material, timing, etc. Hopefully that makes sense.

On my first prep test about a week into the LR Core Cirriculum, I scored a 153. I felt as though this was an excellent starting point in regard to my goal of at least 160. I have since completed the CC, and took another prep test today. I scored a 156. Though an improvement nonetheless, it feels as though perhaps I wasn't studying correctly/intensely enough. I was wondering if it is normal to see more of a jump once you start consistently drilling AFTER the CC as opposed to completing the CC alone. Just wondering if I need to do anything before jumping into drilling + prep tests alone in addition to the CC to see more progress.

Thanks !! :)

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abelmar2
Friday, Jul 26 2024

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@ I'm not OP but I've been in a similar place. Best thing I ever did was take a week off. If you're planning on testing in August, a week off is still feasible, or pushing the test back. If you're testing later, a week off can be super helpful. I haven't found more work to be the antidote to burnout. Take care of yourself!

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^^this also what i did right before i hit the 60s!! giving your brain a break is so important, it's super easy to get burnt out studying for this exam. additionally, scoring higher in BR means you understand the material better than it may seem from your actual score. make sure you get comfortable with the other aspects of the exam, specifically timing!!!

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abelmar2
Monday, Jul 22 2024

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yayyyyy that's amazing!!! so inspiring too thank you for sharing

thank you so much!! so glad i could offer a little inspiration!

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abelmar2
Monday, Jul 22 2024

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Amazing!! Im just staring my studying journey and this is very very inspiring!! Keep pushing but also be proud of yourself and reward yourself accordingly ;)

same goes for you!! it's a grueling process, but you can definitely get to where you want to be!

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abelmar2
Monday, Jul 22 2024

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Same, I went through 15 practice tests and my first one was 155 so I'm gitty atm. I'm a philosophy major too so hopefully we can both keep our majors standing again this upcoming LSAT. Good luck!!!

ayeee love to hear it!! we got this ☝️

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abelmar2
Monday, Jul 22 2024

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Congratulations! That is a huge accomplishment! I just scored my highest today of 159 so I'm hoping that I will be headed that way myself! Good luck on the August test!

omg good job!!! 160s are ready for ya, easy money fr! and thank you so much :)

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abelmar2
Monday, Jul 22 2024

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congrats girl!!!!

thank you !!!!

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abelmar2
Monday, Jul 22 2024

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I'm late to the party, but I remember that 150s to 160s jump! Huge motivation boost and evidence that YOU'RE KILLING IT!!!

THANK YOU!!!! i can't tell you how much this means to me. this exam had me in such a tweakfest until this- the jump was seriously such a confidence boost and completely changed my outlook on the work i've been putting in!!!

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abelmar2
Monday, Jul 22 2024

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Congrats Adriana! I was wondering, what do you think was the best way you studied? In other words, what is your go-to study plan?

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being a philosophy major, i have a decent background in formal logic- so for me a lot of my shortcomings lie within test-taking itself or simply a lack of familiarity with the exam. practicing and becoming super familiar and even comfortable with both the format and question types has played the biggest role i think!! being able to not only quickly identify the question type, but what type of answer to look for has improved my accuracy and timing immensely (untimed sections and short, 5 question drilling has helped with this)! as for reading comp, that one is definitely just practice and thorough, active reading- though, i personally think that performing well on LR consequentially has the same effect for reading comp, since some of the questions are similar! basically, once you feel comfortable with each question type- practice!!!!! my favorite piece of advice i've heard is that, on test day, you want to find comfort in the exam itself. everything else is going to be new and scary, but the LSAT itself is a piece of familiarity and you should get good enough to where it's what makes you feel a sense of comfort :)

hope all of that made sense, good luck to you both with the rest of your studying !!

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abelmar2
Monday, Jul 22 2024

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congratulations! stay focused and keep going

thank you !!!

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Friday, Jul 19 2024

abelmar2

Finally broke the 160s!!!

I've been feeling like I was going to end up stuck in the 150s forever, after consistently scoring around 153-156 (I'm taking the August LSAT). I took a preptest today and ended up with a 164!!! I could not be happier, as my goal for the actual exam has been at least a 160- now it finally feels attainable :) time to keep drilling + aim for consistently scoring in the 160s!

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abelmar2
Friday, Jul 19 2024

Same boat here! Wrong answer journals definitely help, but I also just feel like I won't be able to hit 160.

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Thursday, May 16 2024

abelmar2

Switching to V2 Curriculum

How do I know if I should switch from V1 to V2? More specifically, how different is V2 and how do you know if it would be a better fit for your learning style?

Thanks :)

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abelmar2
Monday, Oct 14 2024

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Adriana- I'm literally in the exact same situation! I'm currently a full-time student and took the August LSAT after studying and scoring in the low 160s. I got a 160 on my LSAT, but like you, I feel like I am seeing no improvement and starting to really panic. Thank you for posting this, because it's been super nice to see someone that is also in my same position (although I wish we weren't). Just want to let you know that I am right there with you and also feeling frustrated and down... We are going to be okay though! And seems like a lot of people on this post have some good ideas.

It really is comforting to know you're not alone!! I'm sorry you're in the same boat as me, it's honestly really discouraging since I already feel like I've given this test my all😭. We'll get through it though, and definitely hit our goals :)

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abelmar2
Sunday, Oct 13 2024

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You are going to do amazing on the exam don't be too stressed. My tip if you want to see a jump in scores is to 1) get used to working when you are tired and 2) being slow and methodical when analyzing your mistakes.

When I first took my diagnostic over a year ago I scored about a 155 (i dont remember exactly). I studied for about 3 months full time. I was fortunate to not have school or work. I ended up scoring a 169 on the exam. I then didnt touch anything to do with the lsat for an entire year. I decided a few weeks ago that i would try to bump my score since I knew I could do better, and i have only given myself one month before i have to take the exam (not advisable, but oh well). The other day I scored a 177 (with no blind review) which is the highest i have ever scored. And that is after only having re-studied 2.5 weeks (very very intensely). In two weeks i managed to do every single logical reasoning lesson and foundational lesson, on top of having a full time job. This was about 100 hours worth of studying on top of my 8-5 job. I was studying pretty much all day saturday and sunday. And from 6 PM - 11 PM every day of the week, even on fridays. My phone screentime went from a daily average of 6 hours a day, to 1 hour and 22 minutes. To be honest, it sucks lol. However, the reason I point this out is that I used to notice that i would get tired during the second half of the exam. However, since I have been training my brain for the past two weeks to focus on the material even when i am dead tired from work, getting through the exam fully rested on a saturday or sunday seems easy in comparison.

Additionally, one thing that I do, and this may be too much, is I hand write every single question that i get wrong. The entire question stimulus and stem for logical reasoning and the only the question stem for reading comprehension. Underneath the question I put what the right answer is. I then put a one to two sentence explanation for why that is the right answer. Then underneath that I write about one full paragraph about why i got it wrong. I hyper-analyze it. I truly try to get to the root of my issue. The trick i learned is to ask myself why five times. For example, "Why did you get [Question B] wrong? Oh i missed the word "not" in the answer choice. Why did you miss the word "not"? I was rushing. Why were you rushing on this question? Oh I had felt i spent too much time on the last question. Why did you spend so much time on the last question (Question A)? I struggle with RRE questions....". This is just an example of how this style led me to realize that my problem was not with question B but rather a completely separate question that i did get right. It wasn't that i was incapable of answering question B, it is that my lack of confidence on Question A types were the reason that I was messing up question B types. So once i got better at RRE, then suddenly i stopped making careless mistakes. Additionally, it usually means that if i fell for the test writers' tricks, i wont make that mistake again.

With that being said, also pat yourself on the back when you get a particularly difficult question right. Be your own hype-person!!

Like i mentioned, this is perhaps too obsessive for the goals you are seeking. However, I think it illustrates a larger principle that you can apply to your studies. The answer is not simply to go over the ones you get wrong but to truly self reflect and be honest with yourself. No one person is good at everything. If such a person exists, I have not met them. The goal is not to beat yourself up over your faults but rather to analyze your mistakes slowly and methodically. Slow is smooth and smooth is fast. In my opinion, drills are good for when you know that you are rough on a specific question type. For example, I know I am exceptionally bad at questions that say "all of the following are correct EXCEPT". So when i see those questions, I save them for last. Once you have a solid foundation it is all about practice tests and reviewing those practice tests. I promise you, the more you sit down and try to analyze your mistakes, you will start to find trends in your mistakes. Train your brain to sit through the exhausting exam. Also if you haven't taken them already, save PT 148 - 158 for when you are feeling fully rested and in the same conditions you plan to take the real exam.

I am not sure if any of my advice will help but I hope it does. Just know that nothing is impossible and that I am sure you will do amazing on the november LSAT.

I cannot thank you enough for such detailed and helpful advice!!! Your story is super inspiring, and I will definitely be using the tips and approaches you provided. Big respect for your commitment to improvement, that is definitely something I will try to integrate. I truly appreciate it :)

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abelmar2
Sunday, Oct 13 2024

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I suggest taking a break from full practice tests and focusing more on drilling. That strategy helped me boost my score by 15 points. It’s also important to take breaks to avoid burnout.

Make sure to review your wrong answers and consider keeping a "wrong answer journal" if you don’t already have one. Talk through your thought process for each question: explain in simple terms why you chose the wrong answer, why the right one is correct, and what you can do to improve next time. I know this might sound a bit silly, but changing my approach to the LSAT really made a huge difference for me. I started viewing it as an exciting challenge. Try to make your study process enjoyable—like I love drilling in cafes and I always get a sweet treat after a PT lol.

You're very smart and already doing well, and a score of 158 is impressive (in the 68th percentile). Good luck! Remember, things always work out in the end, and everything will fall into place :)

Okay first of all- the sweet treat part is so real, truly the best motivation. I do need to work on reminding myself that (even though it's hell a lot of the time) this whole experience is a great learning opportunity! Thank you so so much for your support and encouragement, the same goes for you :)

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abelmar2
Sunday, Oct 13 2024

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So for me, it's become gospel to take my time with every single question I encounter. It might sound simple, but it has done wonders for my progress. I stop after every sentence (or paragraph for RC) and put it into my own words if I need to. I spot the logical gap, if possible. I ask myself if I really understand the stimulus. Because if I don't, I am going to fail. Oftentimes, I would convince myself that I get the general gist of a question and then try to select an answer choice which, unsurprisingly, is the wrong one. After I go through all the ACs, select an answer, and review, I ask myself: Why did I get it right? Why did I get it wrong? Could I confidently explain my answer choice to a layperson?

I was stuck in the low 150s for quite a while, but am now scoring in the mid-high 160s. By simply slowing down, I found tremendous improvement. Four and five star questions still stump me from time to time, but I know what I need to do to keep improving. It's just a lengthy process and you have to have patience with yourself.

Best of luck to you!! Keep at it and I know you'll keep improving!

This really helps a lot!!! I do find myself getting a bit careless when it comes to giving each question my full attention, and this mindset will definitely help me out. Mid-high 160s is awesome, and good luck to you too!!

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Saturday, Oct 12 2024

abelmar2

Stuck in the low 160s

Hey! I took the August LSAT after consistently scoring around 160-164. I got a 158 on the real deal. Since then, because I'm a full time student, I have not had much time to study or improve. I've since taken two more PTs and gotten a 161 and 162. I do not struggle with a specific question type, but typically the highest level of difficulty (though even that is pretty inconsistent). I am retaking in November and would like to feel a little more secure when it comes to hitting my goal of somewhere in the 160s on the real thing. I simply do not know how to improve, as I know different approaches work for different people. As of right now, my plan is to keep drilling and just go over every single wrong answer to try and weed out any bad habits I might not realize I have. Feeling not so great to be honest lol

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abelmar2
Wednesday, Jul 10 2024

It very much may be a timing issue, try starting out with untimed sections before moving up to entire practice tests consistently to try and narrow down the exact cause :)

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abelmar2
Saturday, Jul 06 2024

Thank you so much, > @ said:

Hi! I also still struggle with 5 star questions, but I noticed a lot of improvement once I started doing (1) thorough wrong answer journaling, and (2) attending the LR in Action class. For the WAJ, it is SOO helpful to ID why I eliminate the right AC and choose a wrong AC, it helps me see patterns in mistakes I make. This is difficult to notice unless your journaling your mistakes, especially if the mistakes are less about question types and more about consistent application of the correct strategies/methods! For the LR class - the instructors go through 5 star questions talking through their approach and strategies. When I started the class I consistently missed every question we did together, but I'm now able to get them correct the majority of the time.

After consistently doing both these things, I've started to go miss harder questions way less often. I hope some of it helps you. Good luck you got this!

This is seriously so helpful, I'll be sure to implement this!! Really appreciate it, good luck to you too :)

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abelmar2
Saturday, Jul 06 2024

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Have you tried taking an untimed section? Maybe you're just feeling the time pressure

I have not! I know there is an option for unlimited time, but is it possible to hide the clock as well?

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abelmar2
Friday, Jul 05 2024

I'm experiencing the same thing! I'm starting to think it may be more of a stamina/overthinking/carelessness issue as opposed to a fundamental issue. Let me know if you find anything that works :)

I haven't been able to consistently do better than -10 on LR, though I am not missing a certain type of question- it greatly varies. Would it be more likely to be a result of carelessness/overthinking, or a fundamental issue? How should I approach trying to fix this?

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Friday, Jul 05 2024

abelmar2

I Keep Getting Harder Questions Wrong

When it comes to LR, I've noticed that I tend to get the higher difficulty questions wrong. I feel as though I have a solid fundamental understanding of the concepts, question types, and methods of thinking, though I still consistently get the more difficult ones wrong. I know it may be a bit ironic since that is the point of higher difficulty questions, though I would like to be able to conquer them before my August LSAT. Any tips?

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abelmar2
Sunday, Aug 04 2024

active reading!!!! went from consistently missing around 12 per section to 5 or less- simply by changing the way i was reading (as someone who has never liked reading). i saw a tip somewhere that essentially told me to trick myself into enjoying the passage. like hey, i get to learn something new! also, unless it's a difficult science passage, usually the passages themselves are not entirely difficult- just make sure you're thinking about what you're reading and trying to retain as much info as possible (though don't feel too overwhelmed, the passages will always be there). try and come up with a short, one sentence summary of each paragraph as you finish them. it makes it a lot easier to remember the content and also piece all of the parts together to form the main idea. once you begin to actively read, the questions are super easy! (as most of them pertain to content directly from the passages) u got this

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Saturday, Aug 03 2024

abelmar2

is UNC attainable?

UNC is my dream! though, my GPA is somewhat mid i think, sittin pretty at 3.64 and i take the LSAT next weekend. i've been scoring in the low 160s, so i'm anticipating somewhere around there (if i end up with below a 160, i'm retaking- also yes i know i'm likely to do worse on the real deal but i'm being optimistic hehe). if anyone is super familiar with UNC or their admissions office, is it possible for me to get accepted? rather, is it likely? also important to note that i believe my personal statement will be quite strong, as i have quite a bit of writing experience (if that would make much of a difference). thanks!

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