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Tuesday, Jan 30 2018

Yes! It really is all about understanding sets that various things are a part of.

If you have knowledge about "pencils," you have knowledge about SOME writing utensils.

If you have knowledge about "carrots," you have knowledge about SOME vegetables.

And so forth. You know about some animals, because you know about lions.

Happy Studying!

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Tuesday, Jan 30 2018

aburk3611

Consensus on this LG method?

In the "Logic Games Habits for Speed and Accuracy" section J.Y. lays out a particular approach.

As you start a new LG, always put your pencil down and read the stimulus, the indented set of rules, and the acceptable situation question (ASQ). Take some seconds to absorb the information. The ASQ's answers often reveal the game board. Visualize what the game board will look like. Then, pick up your pencil. Read the stimulus again. Jot down your game board.

Is this method meant to be used in all scenarios or just for practice (FP)? It seems that reading the stimulus/rules twice would really be a time suck, but I suppose if it gives a much deeper familiarity/understanding of the passage then it could be worth it. Is this method generally well-subscribed to in practice and test conditions?

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Monday, Jan 29 2018

@ That's awesome! As someone not extremely familiar with Excel or Google Sheets, how do you extend the formatting? Say for the LG's how would you "drag" the formatting downwards for more PTs?

I am curious if anyone knows whether there is a way to request a switch of the PTs released with each upgrade? If I'm planning on eventually upgrading to Ultimate + after first upgrading to Ultimate, it would be much more beneficial to have the earlier PTs (released only in Ultimate +) first since I just finished the CC and would like to start fool proofing logic games 1-35.. The PTs gained from upgrading to Ultimate are pretty much useless until much later in preparation (after FPing and earlier PTs).

Is there someone we can email to request a "swap" of Ultimate and Ultimate +'s PTs?

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aburk3611
Tuesday, Feb 27 2018

I wouldn't say redo the CC with a score of 160. If you know what your weaknesses are to a fair degree, focus on them. Having upgraded to Ultimate +, you have access to the LG bundle 1-35. Drill those to start if you are coming up shorter than you would like in that section. If you are relatively unsure of your weaknesses, then I agree that you should take a PT and see where you stand. Best of luck!

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Friday, Jan 26 2018

Ugh great news, but definitely adds a new variable to the already complicated decision of taking in June or September haha. Now: take in June, July or September?

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Sunday, Feb 25 2018

@ said:

HYS or one of Columbia NYU Cornell w/ a good scholarship. Essentially big law or bust has lead me to only consider schools where I know I'll have an amazing shot.

Curious, out of those three which is the most splitter friendly?

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Sunday, Feb 25 2018

I'm currently working as a pharmacy technician and studying around 3-3.5 hours a day. Average around 35 hours of work a week. Hours are flexible if you find a pharmacy that has a fair amount of employees already. Pharmacies near college campuses are generally more lenient with their schedules, since students are often employed.

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Friday, May 25 2018

In the same boat! Working full time as a paralegal with a 1 hour commute to and from work every day. I've been struggling to find the time and motivation, but I wake up at 5:15 every morning and try to crush some logic games along with a few after work (drilling the games currently). It may take a while longer studying, but just do what it takes!

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Thursday, Jan 25 2018

I don't understand why AC A needs to "presume" anything? Doesn't the author explicitly state that it is necessary "if a jury is to be truly impartial"? Isn't this equivalent to minimizing their biases?

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Saturday, Feb 24 2018

@ said:

I usually just look at where I represented the rule. So if it’s on master game board, I now just take a look at the board and try to see without this rule what still works and what’s a world that is now open that wouldn’t have been before.

I suppose the instances that I'm really concerned with are those where I have translated rule number 1 down in conditional logic (rule 1 is arbitrary for this example), written several more numbered rules down and as a result am able to move rule 1 to the master gameboard followed by completely scratching it out - but if it is game where you are able to make many more inferences and splits, then you may be left with a gameboard that is pretty much full. Full of both rules and inferences. This generally makes it necessary for me to refer to the stimulus again because I have no clue which of the pieces on the gameboards are inferences or rules.

I think you are right about just focusing on what I've learned throughout the other games - and hope the rules have "stuck" without much of a need to even translate the stimulus rules to a simplified form again.

Thanks!

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Saturday, Feb 24 2018

@ said:

I eliminate redundancies in my representation by scratching them off completely. I don't want any extraneous information lying around to distract me. So if I write out a rule in my rule list and later decide it’s better represented through a split, I’ll scratch the rule off my list once I’ve split the boards. That way, when I look at my rules I immediately know what’s live and what’s not.

You know what is immediately live, but what do you do when you are presented with a scenario similar to what I described - where the stem tells you to ignore only one rule and keep the others and tell, for instance, what must be true? Your split boards become basically untrustworthy unless you can determine exactly what influence the rule no longer in use played in the inference making process. Do you simply refer to the original rule list and translate in your head? If so, that second translation step is the one that I suppose could be prevented if complete elimination of original translations wasn't practiced.

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Tuesday, Jan 23 2018

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What to do post CC?

So I'm about to finish with the Core Curriculum (the reading comprehension section - not all PTs). I'll be finished by early next week. Immediately after, I plan on taking the preptest to assess where I am at, but after that I'm not so sure. As you can see I'm not Ultimate +, so LG bundle is not an option - BUT I plan on getting the bundle by the end of next month (funds don't currently allow). In the meantime should I purchase the LSAT Trainer and go through it to reinforce material? Should I go through all of the CC drills again? Both? I'm not entirely sure what route to take post CC, with a month before purchasing Ultimate +. Thanks!

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aburk3611
Friday, Feb 23 2018

I'd say the same FPing method could apply to the CC sets as the LG 1-35. I'm currently doing a game on days 1,2, 7. And when I say "doing a game," I mean on each day I am attempting the game with a stopwatch until I have scored at/under the recommended time and 100%. This means that each day may consist of attempting a single game 3-4 times, along with reviewing a separate game from a previous day. In the CC you could simply keep track of the game attempted in an excel worksheet or paper!

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aburk3611
Friday, Feb 23 2018

Thank you everyone! It seems that a checkmark is popular for both the rules in the stimulus as well as the translations - which seems wise in comparison to my scratching out completely haha.

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Thursday, Feb 22 2018

aburk3611

Scratching out Rules in LG

I'm curious if everyone else scratches out rules in LG after you have used up the rule creating your master game board. I think it is a good strategy EXCEPT when the occasional question arises that says to "keep all other rules," but eliminate one. At that moment, I look at the master game board and can't tell which game pieces are the result of inferences that may have been made from the rule I'm now required to abandon.

I also can't look at my simplified rule list that I condensed from the stimulus since most are sometimes scratched out. So I'm forced to translate all rules back to a condensed form again. Is the key to not scratch out? To only scratch out rules lightly? Or is there an alternative that I'm missing?

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Sunday, Jan 21 2018

aburk3611

June vs September LSAT Q

Hey everyone!

I started 7sage in late December 2017 and have just recently started the Core Curriculum Reading Comp section (I used the 7sage's "create schedule feature" for the June 2018 LSAT). My diagnostic was a 149 and a167 blind review. The reason for the drastic jump is undoubtedly that I went very slow and left tons of unanswered questions in each section.

I am shooting for a 175 LSAT. 149 to a 175 is a huge jump, but given that my BR was167 on the diagnostic I'm hoping it's achievable with hard work. Now for the question - should I sign up for the June LSAT and just cancel it for a partial refund if my PT's are looking grim? How far out can you cancel with a refund? I'm working a part-time job and have already graduated college also. The alternative is to not even think about June and just chug along until the September LSAT. Thoughts?

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Friday, Feb 16 2018

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I have an iPhone 6S+ and have no issues. Running 11.2.5

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Wednesday, Feb 14 2018

Here's how I'm fool proofing games (on PT 12 now). I work through a game untimed and score myself IF I manage to finish. I recommend watching the video next regardless of whether or not you score perfect - you can discover faster ways and more inferences possibly.

Next, I repeat the game timed after the video with the new information in mind and score it - followed by a BR. If I don't perform under time and a perfect score, I will repeat the game until I do (while recording all score/times). Once perfected, I'm done for the day.

I repeat this on day 2 and day 7. Even if I score perfectly on day 2 in the first try I repeat on day 7 just in case the time from day 1-2 wasn't enough of a gap to truly test my understanding of the game.

So essentially it's day 1,2,7 for every PT for me. The only differences between days is the first attempt on day one is untimed to allow myself to really take my time with the game.

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aburk3611
Wednesday, Feb 14 2018

Thanks for this! I'm in the process of fool proofing (on PT 12 now) and have had both encouraging and discouraging moments so far.

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Tuesday, Feb 13 2018

@ Awesome detailed explanation! Thank you.

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Tuesday, Feb 13 2018

@ said:

You repeat the game that day though. I didn't repeat it the next day unless I was already scheduled to. That helps keep it under control. Each day, I would repeat any of the twelve games I was doing until I could do it without mistakes.

Sorry, what I mean is say on Day 1 you take PT 1 and Day 2 you take PT 2 and 1 (if you follow a 1,2,7 method). When you repeat PT 1 on Day 2 as scheduled, and miss even one question, the FP method recommends that you repeat the game until perfection of score and time is reached. Right? This is the real time consumer for me - repeating games that are actually repeats of prior games.

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Tuesday, Feb 13 2018

@ Awesome. Yeah I suppose I just wanted to make sure that I wasn't the only one stacking so much. It especially becomes a lot when you miss a question or two on a repeated PT and have to repeat the game.. Thanks!

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Tuesday, Feb 13 2018

@ Thank you!

So I've been fool proofing post CC. I started out on a schedule of 1 PT a day, drilling each game on day 1, 2, and 7. I'm figuring out that games are stacking very quickly. For example here is what a 7th days spread looks like with the method above. Day 1: PT1 Day 2: PT 1&2 Day 3: PT 3&2 Day 4: PT 4&3 Day 5: PT 5&4&1 Day 6: PT 6&5&1 Day 7: PT 7&6&3&1

What begins as a reasonable load quickly adds up to 4 PTs in one day, which is overkill in my opinion. Then on day 5 or 7 if I have missed even one question from the day 1 PT I will attempt it until a perfect score. I've now abandoned the original schedule. Instead, I have been doing 1 PT per day and simply attempting at least 4 other questions that had the lowest time or scores in prior games.

Does anyone have a suggestion for a cleaner, more methodical approach to fool proofing? I occasionally catch myself being biased and selectively choosing to repeat games that are difficult, but I actually enjoy over the games that I hate.

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aburk3611
Monday, Feb 12 2018

@ Change that username and keep us updated on your progress! Awesome!

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Monday, Feb 12 2018

Awesome

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aburk3611
Saturday, Feb 10 2018

Beyond buying the Ultimate + package, I don't believe there is a way to get the LG and LR bundles. You could technically purchase the individual PrepTests and then simply print out the LGs/LR/RC (the PrepTests come with explanations I believe)! But I'd suggest saving for Ultimate + unless you only need say... 3-5 PrepTests, in which case you may just want to purchase them individually. Note: It would be unfortunate to finish those 3-5 and end up purchasing Ultimate + for more practice in the end...

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Wednesday, Feb 07 2018

Love it! Thanks

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Wednesday, Mar 07 2018

Agree with @ think about how set you are on your target schools/financial aid. You got an awesome score no doubt, but if you are really set on certain schools I would not leave it up to a 50% chance. If you are satisfied with the opportunities (employment opportunities, locations, etc) at schools slightly below your target schools then enjoy your current score and be done with the LSAT!

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Tuesday, Jun 05 2018

"Correlation does not equal causation." - read the banner over my high school AP psychology teacher's dry erase board

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