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Wednesday, Jul 11 2018

i am thinking the same thing - i want to apply ED to northwestern, but i got a 161 on the feb 2018 LSAT. do i have a chance of getting in even though northwestern's 25th percentile is 163?

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Wednesday, Mar 07 2018

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Hi there! I replied I think in the February takers thread too, but I really think you should sign up for the highest course you can afford. There really are so many more materials available that are sooo helpful. Also, the 160s are a tricky range. It's a place that many people plateau. Moving from even 167/168 into 170+ territory is a much bigger jump than 3 points implies. That's part of the reason that I think you'd benefit from having more materials available. I also think that the September test is probably your better goal, but the real answer is that you should sit for the LSAT when you are ready. Meaning, that you are regularly PTing a few points above where you want to score. So if you can average 172/173 on PTs, you're ready. Granted, that is a very difficult achievement haha. But I think if you are able to buckle down and commit to serious studying starting soon, you could possibly hit your goal by September. But you will also want to give yourself the best chance possible to do it by having a lot of study tools at your disposal.

Agreed- great points! Thank you!

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Wednesday, Mar 07 2018

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Hey all - just took the Feb '18 test and got my score, it was my first time. Congrats to everyone else to completed it as well! I'm going to take it again, but I'm not sure when - wondering if I could get some input here.

I took an online Manhattan Prep course (Sundays) from Oct 15 to Jan 7, and I don't think it was rigorous enough. I want to take a 7sage course before my next test - but I can't do more than ~20 hours a week because I work full time at a start up. Deciding between the Premium & Ultimate courses - would love people to weigh in.

I am looking at either the July 23 or Sept 8 test dates this year for my retake. Is July too soon to increase by ~9 points and complete a 7sage course?

Thanks in advance all! This site rocks.

I had an 11 point increase in 10 weeks of studying. I did the entire CC, did some foolproofing of logic games, and did many drills of LR and some RC. I also took about 10 preptests. I dedicated about 30 hours a week. Fortunately there's 2 tests this summer so I think you have ample time. Then the fall tests. Best of luck. Don't give up keep moving forward.

Thank you all! I got a 161 on the Feb test, and I was getting around 163 on my PTs. I'd like to get a 170... so I think sept test is my best bet. I'm just wondering if the starter 7sage course is sufficient, or if I should bump it up to Premium.

I scored a 164 in Dec. and a 172 in Feb. Not exactly the easiest 8 points to gain and I did it with the starter course. The core curriculum with JY's vids is by far the most valuable portion of 7sage materials, in my opinion. I would also recommend buying one of the LSAC PT books that come with 10 PT's. Get the most recent group of 10 that you haven't done yet. You won't need a ton of PT's since you are already in the 160's. Just watch/listen to every vid in the core curriculum with pen/paper nearby and then do PT's with the most solid blind reviewing of your life.

Good luck!

Thank you!! great info - really appreciate the insight!

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Wednesday, Mar 07 2018

Thank you!

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Wednesday, Mar 07 2018

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Hey all - just took the Feb '18 test and got my score, it was my first time. Congrats to everyone else to completed it as well! I'm going to take it again, but I'm not sure when - wondering if I could get some input here.

I took an online Manhattan Prep course (Sundays) from Oct 15 to Jan 7, and I don't think it was rigorous enough. I want to take a 7sage course before my next test - but I can't do more than ~20 hours a week because I work full time at a start up. Deciding between the Premium & Ultimate courses - would love people to weigh in.

I am looking at either the July 23 or Sept 8 test dates this year for my retake. Is July too soon to increase by ~9 points and complete a 7sage course?

Thanks in advance all! This site rocks.

I had an 11 point increase in 10 weeks of studying. I did the entire CC, did some foolproofing of logic games, and did many drills of LR and some RC. I also took about 10 preptests. I dedicated about 30 hours a week. Fortunately there's 2 tests this summer so I think you have ample time. Then the fall tests. Best of luck. Don't give up keep moving forward.

Thank you all! I got a 161 on the Feb test, and I was getting around 163 on my PTs. I'd like to get a 170... so I think sept test is my best bet. I'm just wondering if the starter 7sage course is sufficient, or if I should bump it up to Premium.

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Wednesday, Mar 07 2018

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These decisions depend on where you are starting from too.

For me the path was

172 February 2017 (without finishing the games section)

180 September 2017

Between the tests, I mainly studied over the summer from May to September using both the 7 sage core curriculum available from the starter course, the free logic games explanations, and by blind reviewing practice tests.

If getting from where you are to a -0 in logic games would get you your 9 points then I would say the starter course and intensive studying using the foolproofing method for logic games could get you there by July.

However, improvement on the other sections takes longer on average. You might get some quick gains out of the core curriculum, but after that it is usually a long steady slog with small gains followed by plateaus followed by more small gains. Since the starter course only lasts 3 months, you'll probably want one of the longer courses with more access to more explanations if you need improvement beyond the games section.

I would lean toward advising most people to study at least from now until September, to study until logic games are regularly -1 or -0, and to study until they have reached a plateau in their score which they haven't been able to break despite their best effort with the best strategies and resources for at least a month of studying and practice testing with blind review.

I would advise this because most people prepare for too little time rather than too much, because almost everyone can perfect logic games, and because every point on the LSAT is worth too much in terms of both acceptance chances and likely scholarships to stop studying while you are still improving.

Thank you! Makes sense- LG sections are usually solid for me, but on the Feb test I had to guess on about ~6 questions because I ran out of time. I got a 161 on the Feb test, and I was getting around 163 on my PTs. I'd like to get a 170... so I think sept test is my best bet. I'm just wondering if the starter 7sage course is sufficient, or if I should bump it up to Premium.

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Wednesday, Mar 07 2018

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How much time do I need before my 2nd LSAT?

Hey all - just took the Feb '18 test and got my score, it was my first time. Congrats to everyone else to completed it as well! I'm going to take it again, but I'm not sure when - wondering if I could get some input here.

I took an online Manhattan Prep course (Sundays) from Oct 15 to Jan 7, and I don't think it was rigorous enough. I want to take a 7sage course before my next test - but I can't do more than ~20 hours a week because I work full time at a start up. Deciding between the Premium & Ultimate courses - would love people to weigh in.

I am looking at either the July 23 or Sept 8 test dates this year for my retake. Is July too soon to increase by ~9 points and complete a 7sage course?

Thanks in advance all! This site rocks.

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afjohnson622942
Wednesday, Mar 07 2018

Hey all - just took the Feb '18 test and got my score, it was my first time. Congrats to everyone else to completed it as well! I'm going to take it again, but I'm not sure when - wondering if I could get some input here.

I took an online Manhattan Prep course (Sundays) from Oct 15 to Jan 7, and I don't think it was rigorous enough. I want to take a 7sage course before my next test - but I can't do more than ~20 hours a week because I work full time at a start up. Deciding between the Premium & Ultimate courses - would love people to weigh in.

I am looking at either the July 23 or Sept 8 test dates this year for my retake. Is July too soon to increase by ~9 points and complete a 7sage course?

Thanks in advance all! This site rocks.

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afjohnson622942
Friday, Nov 02 2018

I'm in the same exact boat. I took the Feb 2018 LSAT, scored a 161. Felt I could, and wanted to do better, so took a couple months off. Started studying with 7sage seriously in August for the Nov test. On 3 tests I got a 164, 165, 165. The last 4 tests I've taken are 162, 161, 161, 161. I'm frustrated and not sure how to play the next two weeks. I think I need to take a few days fully off to decompress. I think it would be wise to reduce stress and the feeling of being overwhelmed by completely distancing yourself from the LSAT for a few days.

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