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Tuesday, Jun 30 2015

Agree with both of them. I will add that an easy sort of mechanical way to recognize major conclusions is to look for certain indicator words (therefore, thus, hence, so etc). Premises also have indicator words (since, because, etc). Do not rely on this method alone though. Finding the conclusion is based heavily on intuition and you should ask yourself "what is the author trying to prove to the reader?" Then try to use info (sentences that u think r premises) to answer why u should believe whatever u think the point is. If it doesn't "go" chances r you misunderstood the passage and possibly identified the conclusion incorrectly.

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Tuesday, Jun 30 2015

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Drilling

How often do you guys drill? My first couple of drills on LR flaw questions have proved to be deadly. Pretty much hit or miss.I've gotten so disappointed lately because of my lack of proficiency. In some ways I think it is due to lack of fundamentals so I am re-reading that section. But then again I think it could be I because I simply don't drill enough (honestly I prob only get to really do it twice a week if that Smh). I'm going to try getting up early to drill while my son is sleeping.

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Tuesday, Jul 28 2015

I like "The Economist!"

As most of you know, my original plan was to start my studies by completing the trainer. But I am really thinking about using 7sage as the main curriculum because I find it a lot harder to read and focus with my son around. I also try reading at work,which is more successful than doing so at home, but it is a very slow process. I am making progress but I am not able to adhere to the schedule provided by the trainer and I am at least two weeks behind in drills! Smh. I think maybe if I had 7sage's video course I could move through the curriculum faster and have more time to effectively drill since I won't be as tired from reading.

I spend most of my time attempting to read the chapter, getting interrupted during drills, and then going to work only to be met with more interruptions. After my chaotic studies are over for the day, I wake up the next day and barely remember a thing lol. Then the vicious cycle starts all over again. A slow, grueling, non-efficient process that doesn't allow me to maximize my full potential. By no means do I think it will be a magic solution, but I think using the 7sage course will be more beneficial because of my lifestyle. I can simply sit back and actively listen, which is a lot less time consuming than actively reading. What do you guys think? Anyone else experiencing a similar issue?

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Sunday, Jul 26 2015

I use the former method as well but I think I only do so because it is ingrained in my head from using the trainer. I read the passage with minimal pauses to mark for reading structure, which takes me about 2 mins. I made it a point not to spend more than 3-mins on a passage because difficult ones are designed to be time ships. 9 times out of 10 u understand the structure to answer the questions (but your subconscious mind tells u that u don't and u end up wasting time). I usually read in 2 mins (give or take 30 secs) and can answer most questions without referring back to the passage. However, RC is my strongest section so I never explored various methods. That way seemed to naturally work and I just stuck with it.

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Sunday, Jul 26 2015

Thanks @ =).

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Sunday, Jul 26 2015

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Using speedo to increase reading speed

Before I officially became a 7sage/trainer student, I dabbled around on a few other forums and found that many instructors suggest using a website called Speedo to increase reading speed. It is designed on the premise that the subconscious mind prohibits people from reaching their reading speed potential due to the subconscious "reading aloud" even when one is reading silently. Learning to ignore that inner voice allows u to take in what u physically see which can be four or more words at a time, rather than reading the one word at a time that you hear in your head. I tried it for a while and it seemed to work but later felt it was unnecessary. What do you guys think? Has anyone done this long term and reaped positive mind blowing results in RC?

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Sunday, Jul 26 2015

@ do you mind posting the Amazon link to the LG drill books you are referring to? I SUCK at the them lol.

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Sunday, Jul 26 2015

Thanks for posting this resource!

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Monday, Jun 22 2015

Which would make the conclusion that Stephanie always drinks her coffee black less likely. Ok that makes sense. Thanks! I think since it is so new that I prob mix up strategies for different questions and end up picking the wrong ones due to mix-up or task confusion. I suppose more drilling will help solidify that.

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Monday, Jun 22 2015

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LR: strengthen and weaken

Ok so am I the only pretty little law geek that finds these questions tough? Lol I'm not bad at LR overall but these questions trip me up quite often. Any advice? I know eventually if I keep doing them I will get better but I am interested to know if anyone uses a different strategy or notices a characteristic about these that distinguishes them from other flaw questions and makes them a little easier to solve. I simply identify the argument, find a flaw and attempt to find the answer that strengthens or weakens that bond between the support and conclusion (not always easy to discern even when I understand the argument).

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Saturday, Aug 22 2015

Thank u @ A. Wright

@ that is very creative of u! I guess if all else fails that's not a bad way to go lol. Was it kind of pricey?

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Friday, Aug 21 2015

Yes I know they are sold in increments of 10. I just lumped all the ones I could not find together that's all, not meaning to write it as if they would all be found in one booklet. I was just hoping that these exams were available for purchase in books so that I would not have to buy individual printed copies.

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Friday, Aug 21 2015

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Cannot find prep tests 39-51

I cannot find full test booklets for prep tests 39-51. Must one buy these individually? If not,would someone please post a link to where these tests can be purchased in a booklet. Thanks!

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Sunday, Jun 21 2015

This is great! As so have written many times by now lol the time commitment towards studying for the LSAT is a very difficult thing for me to overcome considering my son, night shifts at hospital etc. So doing LGs 10 times seemed like an impossible task for me. I will use your approach and let you know how it works. I am going to send you my email address for the spreadsheet. Again, thank you for all of your help. =)

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Sunday, Jun 21 2015

Thank u guys so much! I really appreciate such prompt responses and your willingness to give advice. It is 1 am and while my son is sleeping before his next feeding, here I am playing logic games. Lol. I think for me a lot of it has to do with burn out as well because I never get much rest and by the looks of it you guys don't either lol. @ I will definitely read your guide and let you know how it helps. =)

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Sunday, Jun 21 2015

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LG trouble

While I am making progress in the LG section, I am seeing that there is a pattern I do not like. It is an extremely sporadic pattern. Either I understand the game and get all the questions right (sometimes miss only one) or completely misunderstand the game and get most questions wrong. There isn't a very strong correlation between game type for me. For example, I don't seem to bomb matching games more than sequencing etc. It's literally if I understand the task well, I answer correctly and if I don't I am guessing I misrepresent the diagram or the rules in such a way that it nearly throws me off the entire game. Is this a basic diagramming/notating problem that I just need to address? Maybe re-read the basics of LG, or use another resource to bridge that gap?

I am also thinking maybe it doesn't make sense to time myself. When I blind review LG, of course I do a lot better. But if I can't get them accurate under in times conditions then it doesn't make much sense to time myself yet right? Naturally, I tend to do worse even on games i do understand under the time pressure. =( usually its because of a missed inference or incorrect representation of a rule that I get correct when I am not being timed.

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Sunday, Jun 21 2015

I had to read it a few times but I think I understand. I am guessing that there were some rules that linked to make the A_B_C_D_E chain and that one of the rules restricted the chain to position 3. Or that elements F/G were "locked" to positions 1 and You didn't explicitly state what those rules were that's why I was a little confused.

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Friday, Jun 19 2015

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law school course?!!?

So I was just poking around on the site and to my surprise 7sage has a law school course! I had no idea. Has anyone taken this course and if so, has it really made a difference in your law school grades and/or experience?

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Wednesday, Aug 19 2015

160 or higher- GSU is my top school! Love it and also did my undergrad there! =)

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Wednesday, Aug 19 2015

I am not finished with the curriculum due to some tragedies that occurred. However, I would still like to be a part of the BR group. Who is leading so that I know who to pm? I am working so hard to play catch up guys. Hopefully, I will feel confident enough about my skill set to take the test in December despite all of my setbacks. I certainly hope all of you are having a smooth journey (at least as far as curriculum completion) towards reaching your LSAT goal.

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Thursday, Jul 16 2015

For these questions, elimination is a very powerful tool. At least one answer uses very strong language such as all, only, or never that the original argument didn't necessarily state, another answer will be unrelated to the argument (bring in new info that was not mentioned in the argument but does not affect it one way or the other because this isn't what the argument is concerned about), one will strengthen it, and the last is likely to be a restated premise.

I approach these questions first by finding the flaw ( most of the time it is easy to see but sometimes the correct answer choice helps me identify it) and focus on how the correct answer SHOULD relate to the flaw. Only one answer will do it so this method is helpful if you aren't sure exactly what the flaw is but you understand the relationship that the answer choice should have as far as relating to it. For example, a fail to consider flaw in the argument will be presented in the answer choice as a new possibility or other piece of information that would cause the conclusion to be questionable.

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Monday, Jun 15 2015

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can't access LG explanations

@"Dillon A. Wright" are you guys doing maintenance on the site? For some reaSon the only resource available is the scorer. None of the other resources come up when they are clicked on.

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Thursday, May 14 2015

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combining 7sage with LSAT trainer

So I have heard and read excellent things about the LSAT Trainer and was wondering how you have been combining your studies. I would probably attempt to do them simultaneously. For example, first I would complete a segment of 7sage (since I anticipate it will be quicker than reading) and then read chapter 1 of the trainer to reinforce concepts and drills. I am just curious as to other ways that some of you have meshed the two in your studies and how effective you feel it has been for you.

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Monday, Jul 13 2015

It looks like we are settling on sometime in August @

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Monday, Jul 13 2015

@ thanks for responding and yes I am using process of elimination to get the right answer. It does feel rather

nice lol.

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Monday, Apr 13 2015

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how will the pdf change affect pricing?

Does anyone know if the change regarding PDF LSAT exams and content will affect the pricing of the courses? I wanted to purchase my class before the 21st but now I will not able to so I will have the extra expense of buying lsat test books in addition to the price of the course. =(

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Monday, Apr 13 2015

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Question: if-then conditional statements

Using a kaplan book in conjunction with these videos and can use some help! Can anyone explain Kaplan's answer for the part B? I could have sworn it was an error.

If Megan buys a juicer, then she buys kale or mangos.

A. What do we know if megan buys a juicer?

My answer: she bought mangos, kale, or both.

B. What do we know if megan buys neither mangos nor kale?

My answer: nothing. I thought that no logical deductions could be made from this statement because this is the necessary condition not the sufficient condition.

Kaplans answer: then she can't have bought a juicer

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Sunday, Jul 12 2015

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strengthen/weaken questions

Surprisingly I am very strong in LR sections and I almost always get these right. The problem is I don't know why. Lol. Intuitively I guess I understand the question stem well but I feel as if I do not even after getting it right. I think I am confused about how I am using the flaw to derive at the correct answer.

When answering these questions I read the stem first, identify conclusion and support and then the flaw. But I don't think I actually use the flaw to get the right answer unless I am doing so sub-consciously. Is a strengthening question simply a matter of making the flaw "work" in the argument so that the conclusion of that argument is valid or more likely to be valid?

In weakening, it is the reverse so is it a matter of exposing the flaw and using it to make the "holes" in argument more noticeable so that the conclusion is invalid or less valid?

I guess I shouldn't freak out since I only get one or two wrong. But I am using the trainer and trying my best to incorporate Mike's train of thought to avoid loopholes in my fundamentals later.

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Sunday, Jul 12 2015

17th works for me! As long as I am PTing by September I am good with whatever day you decide to start. It is taking me a while to get through the curriculum and drills anyway because of my busy life lol.

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Saturday, Jul 11 2015

No duck likes water means that if u are a duck then u don't like water. Idk how u guys use the lawgic for this question. For me it is a matter of understanding what is being said. I forget all about the reverse negate rules when the words unless, no, none etc are used. I found that using the lawgic confused me and it wasn't until I stopped thinking in terms of necessary, sufficient etc that I was able to get these types of conditional rule translations correct.

Sometimes focusing on all that stuff can hurt more than it helps if you are like me and tend to overanalyze. I revert back to English and ask myself if I were to say this to someone in a conversation, what would I be trying to say? Ducks like water? D -->W. No. Because if NO duck likes water then how can ducks like water? Lol. So it's D-->/W Not knocking your method you have to do what works for you.

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Saturday, Jul 11 2015

I had a hard time identifying the flaw in various arguments as well but recently strengthened this skill. I re-read the chapter regarding the overview of flaws and it was easiest for me to think of it this way. Either the author is focusing on one "piece" and failing to consider other options (in doing so he is taking for granted that something has to be true when it in fact it does not based on this one piece of evidence), or the author is treating two situations, characteristics, as if they are equal when they are not (apples not oranges and usually the case in 1+1 not 3 flaws).

The different flaws relate to the author doing one of these two things. It doesn't matter whether the author of the argument does this by focusing on an opinion, mistaking correlation for causation, switching necessary and sufficient terms etc. In each of these ways, (even when two ideas are brought together incorrectly) the author is still either failing to consider something or assuming a relationship that doesn't have to necessarily be so.

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Thursday, Jul 09 2015

Ok thanks a bunch! I was reading the entire argument for those types of questions anyway so I won't even think about not doing so. I agree that it does bias the way that you read the argument if you read the question stem first. However, the bias is appropriate since you are only trying to perform a specific task and reading the stem allows you to zero in on that task. I can care less about reading in a biased manner if it allows me to get that question correct. Lol. But to each his own. Your method certainly isn't wrong, I just perform better when given "direction" as opposed to not having any.

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Saturday, May 09 2015

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rough start

Hey guys! =) I'm still pretty new to the LSAT community but I was wondering if you guys could help me out here. I just became a mom 8 months ago, graduated undergrad a year ago with intentions of being in law school by now and I now work 12 hr night shifts as a respiratory therapist! Annnnd needless to say like the rest of u lovely people, I too still want to go to law school. Lol BUT I am having the hardest time. I do study But the only time I seem to be able to do that is inbetween my rounds at work around 2-4 am! I don't get a whole lot of studying done during the week but I do retain and practice the little bit that I do. Before my son was born I was a zen at studying. I would stop at nothing until the job was done no matter what! But now I can't put the same amount of effort in. I find it impossible to play with my baby during the day, work nights, wake up every 4 hours at night to feed my son on my days off with few or no naps, and still have the energy to study LSAT. By the time I get to it on my days off I am exhausted and I recap the same concept 300 times before I'm able to move on. I guess I just need encouragement...sometimes it feels like I'm moving so slow that I will never get there. I am saving up for my 7sage course (things keep getting in the way of me actually purchasing it smh) so right now I am using the kaplan premier book. Hopefully once I get my 7sage course I can save time and energy by not having to read such dry prose at 4 am. I guess I would like to know how you all do it? How can you lead normal lives and still devote time to the LSAT in an effective and time efficient manner?

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Thursday, Jul 09 2015

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LR question

For LR questions in which there are two authors with opposite views and the question stem only refers to one, do you recommend immediately reading the portion of the argument that the stem is referring to or reading the argument in its entirety? I figure if you only refer to the argument the stem refers to, it may save time. but then again it may cause you to miss something such as what the two authors disagree/agree about.

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Sunday, Jun 07 2015

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circles, squares, and triangles...oh my!

Ok so I couldnt help but stick it out with Mike's method for LG since a few of you said it was actually beneficial to you in some ways and it's finally coming together! The use of his shapes are not bad. Although unpleasing to the eye, lol in a matter of a day I got used to it and I am already doing a LOT better on diagramming drills.I suppose it was just a matter of being too overwhelmed by the appearance of the diagrams combined with extreme fatigue that caused me to go crazy last night. I ended up re-reading the chapters that confused me last night (proof that studying when you are mentally and physically exhausted is an absolute waste) and I understood it much better today. I have a good patient load at work tonight and I don't have the emergency room so I will be able to get in at least 5 hours of studying! Thanks to those of you who continue to give me advice and inspire me to do my best. If anyone else is using The Trainer and is a little baffled by the LG section I will be more than happy to help clarify.

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Saturday, Jun 06 2015

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logic games!!!???

So I have now begun studying logic games using the LSAT trainer and omg I am soooo lost. =( I am not a visual learner at all and it is very hard for me to "read" pictures. I often have trouble deciphering how to notate rules and the fact that I even have to draw a picture to solve the problem set overwhelms me. Even more alarming is the use of circles, squares, and triangles that I have encountered with the trainer! The mere visual of the shapes combined with the in/ out chart, lines, and other symbols drive me crazy and I am left feeling dazed and defeated before I even tackle the questions. Anyone else encounter this problem and overcome it somehow? Would you recommend using J.Y.'s method for logic games instead?

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Monday, Apr 06 2015

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Ways to recap without being repetitive

Hey guys! I'm kind of new to the 7sage community and I am hoping to be more social when I buy my ultimate course in a few weeks. I was just wondering how you guys recap what you've learned without repeating the same skill set questions. Are there any other exercises or books that you recommend to supplement this course?

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Friday, Jun 05 2015

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strategies for taking full length PTs

So I've finally started my long, arduous journey towards studying for the LSAT. Although it is tough with my son and I often think of how I had more energy and free time during my undergrad days, I am sticking to my guns and getting a little done each day. I started with LSAT trainer like many of you suggested and I plan to follow up with a 7sage course after I complete it. I am aiming to take the LSAT December 2015 (February 2016 the very latest). Feel free to comment if you too are planning on taking the exam at the same time. =) Anyway, I find it difficult to complete full PT's mainly because I am always interrupted by something my son is doing and if it isn't that I start late (like 10 pm at night) when he is sleeping and by that time I am too tired to finish the entire thing. Does anyone practice them by doing split timed sections half and half? I know it isn't the ideal way to practice but it seems like it the only way I would get a full PT done. In the weeks before the exam, I will probably just go to the library (provided that I have a babysitter) so that I can get the full experience. And blind reviewing on the same day? Lol. Forget about it! Between my son waking up, feeding him, getting him to go back to sleep, etc it's a lost cause. Anyone take the exam and blind review the next day? Any suggestions would be great!

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Sunday, Jul 05 2015

Thanks @.busis only thing is the school I am applying to doesn't require a diversity statement. They ask for a 2 pg double spaced PS. I would love to write a DS since it seems to better suit me. However, I don't want to seem snarky by adding something to my application that isn't required or even discussed in FAQs lol. Could I make the DS my personal statement? I know @ advises against this but I don't see how adding an additional essay that they didn't ask for will make a good impression.

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Saturday, Jul 04 2015

I see you went into detail about the differences regarding diversity statements in the last post. Would you say that diversity statements are a particularly advantageous to minority and/or foreign students?

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Saturday, Jul 04 2015

What is the key difference between a personal statement and a diversity statement? Is there a way to incorporate the characteristics of both into one essay?

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Thursday, Jul 02 2015

Congrats! It was well deserved. =) told u not to count yourself out man. It ain't over til it's over! Lol.

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