Thank u @7sagestudentservices A. Wright

@lpadr009465 that is very creative of u! I guess if all else fails that's not a bad way to go lol. Was it kind of pricey?

Yes I know they are sold in increments of 10. I just lumped all the ones I could not find together that's all, not meaning to write it as if they would all be found in one booklet. I was just hoping that these exams were available for purchase in books so that I would not have to buy individual printed copies.

160 or higher- GSU is my top school! Love it and also did my undergrad there! =)

I am not finished with the curriculum due to some tragedies that occurred. However, I would still like to be a part of the BR group. Who is leading so that I know who to pm? I am working so hard to play catch up guys. Hopefully, I will feel confident enough about my skill set to take the test in December despite all of my setbacks. I certainly hope all of you are having a smooth journey (at least as far as curriculum completion) towards reaching your LSAT goal.

I like "The Economist!"

I use the former method as well but I think I only do so because it is ingrained in my head from using the trainer. I read the passage with minimal pauses to mark for reading structure, which takes me about 2 mins. I made it a point not to spend more than 3-mins on a passage because difficult ones are designed to be time ships. 9 times out of 10 u understand the structure to answer the questions (but your subconscious mind tells u that u don't and u end up wasting time). I usually read in 2 mins (give or take 30 secs) and can answer most questions without referring back to the passage. However, RC is my strongest section so I never explored various methods. That way seemed to naturally work and I just stuck with it.

Thanks @mahdiall408 =).

@aieshagrant4547 do you mind posting the Amazon link to the LG drill books you are referring to? I SUCK at the them lol.

Thanks for posting this resource!

For these questions, elimination is a very powerful tool. At least one answer uses very strong language such as all, only, or never that the original argument didn't necessarily state, another answer will be unrelated to the argument (bring in new info that was not mentioned in the argument but does not affect it one way or the other because this isn't what the argument is concerned about), one will strengthen it, and the last is likely to be a restated premise.

I approach these questions first by finding the flaw ( most of the time it is easy to see but sometimes the correct answer choice helps me identify it) and focus on how the correct answer SHOULD relate to the flaw. Only one answer will do it so this method is helpful if you aren't sure exactly what the flaw is but you understand the relationship that the answer choice should have as far as relating to it. For example, a fail to consider flaw in the argument will be presented in the answer choice as a new possibility or other piece of information that would cause the conclusion to be questionable.

It looks like we are settling on sometime in August @jeremymilan606

@aieshagrant4547 thanks for responding and yes I am using process of elimination to get the right answer. It does feel rather

nice lol.

17th works for me! As long as I am PTing by September I am good with whatever day you decide to start. It is taking me a while to get through the curriculum and drills anyway because of my busy life lol.

No duck likes water means that if u are a duck then u don't like water. Idk how u guys use the lawgic for this question. For me it is a matter of understanding what is being said. I forget all about the reverse negate rules when the words unless, no, none etc are used. I found that using the lawgic confused me and it wasn't until I stopped thinking in terms of necessary, sufficient etc that I was able to get these types of conditional rule translations correct.

Sometimes focusing on all that stuff can hurt more than it helps if you are like me and tend to overanalyze. I revert back to English and ask myself if I were to say this to someone in a conversation, what would I be trying to say? Ducks like water? D -->W. No. Because if NO duck likes water then how can ducks like water? Lol. So it's D-->/W Not knocking your method you have to do what works for you.

I had a hard time identifying the flaw in various arguments as well but recently strengthened this skill. I re-read the chapter regarding the overview of flaws and it was easiest for me to think of it this way. Either the author is focusing on one "piece" and failing to consider other options (in doing so he is taking for granted that something has to be true when it in fact it does not based on this one piece of evidence), or the author is treating two situations, characteristics, as if they are equal when they are not (apples not oranges and usually the case in 1+1 not 3 flaws).

The different flaws relate to the author doing one of these two things. It doesn't matter whether the author of the argument does this by focusing on an opinion, mistaking correlation for causation, switching necessary and sufficient terms etc. In each of these ways, (even when two ideas are brought together incorrectly) the author is still either failing to consider something or assuming a relationship that doesn't have to necessarily be so.

Ok thanks a bunch! I was reading the entire argument for those types of questions anyway so I won't even think about not doing so. I agree that it does bias the way that you read the argument if you read the question stem first. However, the bias is appropriate since you are only trying to perform a specific task and reading the stem allows you to zero in on that task. I can care less about reading in a biased manner if it allows me to get that question correct. Lol. But to each his own. Your method certainly isn't wrong, I just perform better when given "direction" as opposed to not having any.

Thanks @davidbusis895.busis only thing is the school I am applying to doesn't require a diversity statement. They ask for a 2 pg double spaced PS. I would love to write a DS since it seems to better suit me. However, I don't want to seem snarky by adding something to my application that isn't required or even discussed in FAQs lol. Could I make the DS my personal statement? I know @974 advises against this but I don't see how adding an additional essay that they didn't ask for will make a good impression.

I see you went into detail about the differences regarding diversity statements in the last post. Would you say that diversity statements are a particularly advantageous to minority and/or foreign students?

What is the key difference between a personal statement and a diversity statement? Is there a way to incorporate the characteristics of both into one essay?

Congrats! It was well deserved. =) told u not to count yourself out man. It ain't over til it's over! Lol.

Agree with both of them. I will add that an easy sort of mechanical way to recognize major conclusions is to look for certain indicator words (therefore, thus, hence, so etc). Premises also have indicator words (since, because, etc). Do not rely on this method alone though. Finding the conclusion is based heavily on intuition and you should ask yourself "what is the author trying to prove to the reader?" Then try to use info (sentences that u think r premises) to answer why u should believe whatever u think the point is. If it doesn't "go" chances r you misunderstood the passage and possibly identified the conclusion incorrectly.