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Hi all,
I recently upgraded to a new Mac with the silicon M1 chip. Any tech-savvy people know if I might have any issues with proctor U? I've heard that some software has issues because of the new chips
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alizsafawi42
Friday, Apr 30 2021
Bumping
alizsafawi42
Tuesday, Mar 30 2021
I took Jan with my 2020 macbook air (with the M1 silicon chips) and it was totally fine. I found that in Firefox I couldn't scroll down but it works perfectly fine with Chrome
alizsafawi42
Monday, Aug 30 2021
I'd suggest talking to a law school financial aid office (you don't have to talk to all the schools you may apply to, one should be enough to give you an idea). I imagine your FAFSA will look different if you jointly file taxes with your spouse. Are you both planning to go the law school? That may significantly change things relative to if one of y'all worked while the other went to school (basically its no earnings versus low earnings, unless of course y'all do part time school)
alizsafawi42
Monday, Aug 30 2021
I agree that you don't have to but you COULD also write a diversity statement that's completely different from your PS. All the diversity prompts I've seen are super broad so you can bring in a facet of who you are that you don't get into in your PS. Diversity isn't constrained to race, religion, or LGBT+. You can write a diversity statement about pretty much anything, as long as you show how it would add something to the law school's class
alizsafawi42
Monday, Aug 30 2021
I think people need to worry less about annoying the ADCOMs tbh, its their job to read your application. That being said, it is still a good idea to use your space effectively (write well and don't be repetitive). You shouldn't write a diversity or why x statement just because its an option, only do it if you can write a good one (as others have said). Some schools (Penn comes to mind) have a diversity and why x prompt but only allow you to submit one, whereas others may allow you to submit both (Michigan does this). There are also other prompts (like the "teamwork" prompt) that you shouldn't discount because they are less common than the diversity or why x prompts.
alizsafawi42
Monday, Aug 30 2021
UVA has a similar addendum prompt, which I read as basically a pick-your-own prompt supplemental essay. I asked my pre-law advisor and she concurred. I wouldn't abuse this though, you should only do a why law (and keep it to a page) and not, say, a diversity statement as well. Also, do you have anything else you need to opine on in an addendum? If you have a GPA/LSAT issue that will take more than a paragraph to explain, you may want to reconsider. A why law addendum certainly won't hurt and will probably help your chances modestly, but I doubt it would change ADCOM's minds if they would decide to waitlist/deny you based on your applications sans that addendum.
All in all, I think you can but be mindful of space. I also suggest specifying which law school in your question and title, that way people with experience with that school (maybe they wrote a why law addendum) can jump in.
Hi all,
7Sage and other sources have UPenn down as doing ED interviews; however, all the questions are for 2018-19 (I read somewhere that 18-19 was the first year for these interviews). Anyone know if UPenn has done such interviews in more recent cycles?
Where would you place these 4 things?
Unpaid internships during undergrad, not for credit
Student newspaper where I was paid for what I wrote
Leadership position with the union where I work (volunteer)
Volunteering to coordinate internship program where I work
Thanks in advance!
For over about 2 months now, I've been stuck in the 170 to 172 range. The good news is that its been consistent across my last 2 tests that were very tough (PT 79 and its hella hard RC section then M20 on LSAC where I had lots of technical difficulties). The bad is that I'd really like a 174+ (I've only scored above a 173 4 times out of 26 tests). I have no consistent weakness (if I do well in RC one PT, I struggle with LR; next test could be vise-versa). Is a 172 the best I can hope for? I test in Jan.
Studying for a summer retake and the newspaper game (4th on my Jan LSAT) is in the back of my mind. Is there any games like that? Though the probability of a similar game is low, I still want to be prepared.
Hi all,
Registering for the Jan LSAT but it looks as if I'm registering for an in-person LSAT when LSAC has announced that it will be Flex. Is this normal or should I wait to register? Also, is registering early an issue for Flex?
Hi all,
I've started to more consistently score in 170-172 range though my peak was a 174 over a month ago. Any tips on how to get into the mid-to-high 170s. For context, my undergrad GPA ain't stellar (3.66, mostly due to premed classes) and I plan on applying to Penn, UMich, UVa, Duke, and G'town. I'm taking the test in Jan.
My issue is that I don't just have one weakness. For example, in my last two PTs my score got dragged down by -4 in LG (silly mistakes I should've caught) and -7 in LR (PT 59, first LR section). There are some areas I know need work, like Parallel LR Qs and not freaking out when I hit a challenging game in LG. But sometimes things will crop up, like SA and NA questions, that I thought I had a handle on. I do think I'm getting better at RC, for a long while I'd get 3 to 4 wrong and be unable to figure out the right answer in BR, in my last 3 PTs I've managed to get the right answers in BR (-4) and then went -1 in the last 2.
I know a low 170 is a good score but I consider it the bare minimum.
Any current or former UPenn students willing to do a quick chat? Anyone who is a Toll Scholar or Fellow would be particularly cool to talk to but I'm not picky. Looking for inspiration for "Why School X"
I signed up for the LSAT in Jan but it made me sign up for a physical testing site. I'm assuming they'll circle back because its Flex. How does this work? Do I just wait until LSAC emails me? Any idea when that'll be?
alizsafawi42
Wednesday, Feb 24 2021
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Do you think you can only be successful so long as you go to a t14 or do you think you can be successful career-wise in any school you attend ??
The T-14 distinction is a ridiculous construct that probably needs to die. Does anyone believe that there's a big drop-off in quality between Georgetown and UCLA/UT Austin? If we have to keep an elite tier of schools (do we?) we should think about expanding it to the T-18 or something by adding UCLA, UT Austin, WUSTL, and Vandy, if only for geographical diversity.
Now, hoping off my high horse.
Every school has upsides and downsides. I wouldn't be surprised if some state schools (Washington or Illinois for example) still have great professors and place people in big firms even if they may have slipped in the rankings.
Above the Law's rankings have schools no were near the T-14 ranked higher that T-14 schools. Its all subjective.
Hi all,
I'm hosting a law school/LSAT info session for the interns where I work and I have a question for the group.
Can/should people still use prep books (e.g. the Powerscore Bibles, the LSAT Trainer) as their sole resources to prep? Given that the LSAT is digital and Prep Plus exists, I wonder if prep books are now more useful as supplements to an online course like 7Sage. I, for instance, used the Loophole as a supplement. I know Powerscore has a stand alone PT and analytics tool that's similar to 7Sage's that you could pair with prep books but that doesn't strike me as a good bargain considering that there are some very affordable online courses (7Sage, Magoosh, Manhattan (surprisingly)).
Thoughts?
alizsafawi42
Friday, Jan 22 2021
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Does anyone have a strategy on what to do AFTER taking the LSAT. When to start studying again? Things of that nature. I took it two days ago. Not too much info on this out there.
First, I think we should all hold our collective horses until February 3. If the time comes and you decide to retake, I'd give yourself another week off. I'd also reflect on what you think led to your score on the Jan Test. (e.g. was it RC? LG?) I don't think I'll retake, but if I did I'd probably not use 7Sage since I think I've gotten all I can from it. The Loophole as well. I think I'd try the powerscore bibles (I like their podcast). I've also burned through all the recent PTs so not sure what to do there. Hopefully I'm right and I won't have to retake.
alizsafawi42
Tuesday, Dec 21 2021
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Hi, I would like you to review my personal essay and make some comments; general impression on it, what could be written better and perhaps if there are any stuff to remove/delete
Please DM me with answers to the questions I provided. Thanks!
Hi all,
Long story short, I was very fortunate to get great free help on my law school apps through a combination of friends and the advising center at my undergrad institution that lead to an offer at a T6. I believe people shouldn't have to pay thousands of dollars for someone to review their essays so I'd like to pay it forward to some folks.
While I'm probably not as qualified as the folks at the other end of those huge price tags, I have been writing professionally for about 4 years and think I'm pretty good at it.
Anyway, if you want help, please DM me with the following info:
What you want me to edit (I am willing review up to 2 documents/4 pages total per person):
Where are you sending it:
When you need it by:
To make sure I can manage this, I'll only be taking up to 5 folks at first. So long as you get me your material by the 24th, I can get it back to you by the 27th.
Happy holidays!
alizsafawi42
Monday, Sep 20 2021
@ (or anyone else). Does a gap between undergrad and grad school count (e.g. graduated in May, started grad school in August)? I was working in the family business between then but don't really think I ought to waste the few lines in my resume to explain that I did inventory for a few months. I could do an addendum but again it feels unnecessary given that it wasn't that I didn't have plans.
@ I'm actually going to disagree with other folks and say that you should note the paralegal job. Normally, I think the "don't include something that didn't happen" advise is fine but COVID-19 was unique. You could just list the name of the firm/position, when you'd have started and (Offer postponed indefinetely due to COVID-19 pandemic). You certainly won't be the only person to do this.
alizsafawi42
Monday, Sep 20 2021
Most schools I'm applying to ask for your undergrad employment. I don't know if its because they also ask that on the Bar or if its to put your GPA in context. I think any work experience is valuable experience if you spin it right (multi-tasking is one such area, I would also say people skills)
Hi all,
Is there a place to find my CAS GPA on LSAC's website/instead of calculating it myself? They have all my transcripts
For those who have taken the flex, did y'all encounter any games that didn't fit into the other categories (e.g. the Misc games of the 1990s)? In general, how'd would y'all rate the difficulty of LG section in flex?
Can we use soft ear plugs for LSAT writing?
alizsafawi42
Sunday, Jan 17 2021
Just finished. Had some issues with proctor U and my RAM but basically redid the check until I passed.
No issues with my proctor, they were very nice.
LG was my first section and I found it pretty hard, especially Game 4. I guessed on 3 Qs. Def my worst section.
RC was pretty easy, I got done with lots of extra time to double check my answers.
LR was typical, I'd say. Similar experience with RC, had ample time to go back and noodle on answers that I flagged.
Compared to M 2020, which I just retook last night I'd say RC and LR were on-par and LG was harder.
Hi all,
Could anyone who has applied to Berkeley help me out with something? When they ask for extracurriculars and jobs since high school, do they mean EVERY JOB/ACTIVITY? I've been out of high school for 6 years and held a lot of short-duration jobs in college, I don't even remember them all, let alone hours. I also technically a part of more student orgs than I actually ever attended regularly. Basically, I do not want to hunt down every job and club I have ever been marginally attached to unless my admission would be contingent upon it. I have a good resume that has the jobs and clubs that I have actually had an impact on who I am today. I assume they are asking for a big list to put my GPA in context but it seems a little extreme.
Thanks in advance!
alizsafawi42
Saturday, Jan 16 2021
C and D seem like they're saying the same thing which is why I got rid of them. Not sure if its a good general strategy but it worked here
alizsafawi42
Saturday, Jan 16 2021
@ @ what're y'all aiming for score-wise/what have you been PTing? Would help people gauge how likely your experience may be similar to theirs. Also, I'm sure y'all killed it
alizsafawi42
Monday, Mar 15 2021
Hi all,
Thanks for the comments! I've decided that I'm going to operate like I'm going to retake but hold of on registering for June until the last week to give myself some wiggle-room. Honestly, I'm salty that I didn't score higher and want another crack at it so there's a personal element to this as well.
To VerdantZephyr's point, I agree that the 21/22 cycle is impossible to predict. However, the economy is projected to hit its fastest growth since just after WWII so the economic considerations of a lot of students will likely change in a direction that disincentivizes law school relative to the cycle in the economic downturn itself (maybe, I'm no economist), at least in the US. Will be interesting to watch.
Anyone know some good games with both repeating elements and conditionals (like games 3 and 4 from PT 87) that I can practice before Sunday?
Can "is" be a group 2 indicator like "must"? E.g. X is Y = X->Y
JY seems to treat it as such in 60.1.17
alizsafawi42
Friday, Mar 12 2021
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@ I think that people were unsure if you've already applied this year or were thinking of applying next year. Are you already waitlisted? Anticipating waitlists? If you haven't been waitlisted yet and you're tired of studying I don't think there's much point. I believe that the June LSAT is open for registration until May some time. I'd wait and see. If you're already waitlisted and aren't concerned enough about scholarships to push to next year then definitely retake in June. It gives schools a tangible reason to pull you off the wait list.
I'm applying in the 2021 cycle (so the fall)
Hi all,
Trying to game out the financials of retaking the LSAT in the summer. I've gamed out that it'll cost about $150 for continued prep materials and an additional $200 for registering. However, that's only an expense I can justify if I'm confident I can score at least 2 points higher than my Jan LSAT score.
My big question is about LSAT refunds. LSAC says the refund for withdrawing from the LSAT by the deadline is a partial deadline but it doesn't say how much. Does anyone know?
I understand the other option is to reschedule the test but that only works if I think another month of prep will get me where I need to be.
Thanks in advance!
So after getting a 176 and 175 on two PTs (81 and 86) I took 75 as a flex and got... a 168. I tanked on RC (-6) and also did fairly bad on LR for what I've been scoring (-3). Bright spot was a -1 on LG but overall it was not great. I this is tied for my worst RC score (I also got -6 on PT 70 a few weeks) and I'm sort of deflated even though I'm aware that I'm probably more likely to get -2 or -3 on RC since that's what I usually get. I feel like I've neglected RC and honestly 7sage's methods don't help me. I've been listening to the Powerscore podcast and I've considered buying the RC bible and cramming it before Sunday. However, I'm worried about a) burn out and b) that I'm overreacting. I don't know if there was anything off about this PT although I might have gotten overconfident after hitting those high scores. Should I take more PTs before Sunday? The Powerscore podcast says no because a bomb might put me into a spin (already kind of happened).
This was a mess of a post but any insight would be super helpful
alizsafawi42
Thursday, Mar 11 2021
No one loves that this happens but its yield protection. They didn't think you were seriously considering them (even though you were sending grades which should've indicated interest) so they went with someone who they judged to be more likely to attend.
Also, JDream, that's not surprising since you applied so late in the cycle. The school probably already filled all its seats
alizsafawi42
Thursday, Nov 11 2021
To my knowledge, you can't check through LSAC w/o login info from the school. I think at least one school I applied to took a week to get me that info. Also, some schools (like Michigan) do not use the LSAC application tracker system.
alizsafawi42
Thursday, Nov 11 2021
I suggest looking here: https://coda.io/d/The-7Sage-Law-School-Info-Doc_daa7untIi1o/App-Requirements_sumP8#_luA_v
I found the G'town interview to be pretty painless. If you are ED, the interview will slow down the speed at which you get a decision but it'll probably help your chances enough to merit the wait.
alizsafawi42
Wednesday, Mar 10 2021
Bumping this because I just heard from a friend who got his tenth(!) waitlist email
Hi all,
I did PT 86 on Law Hub (got a 175!) but when I was inputting my answers on 7sage to add the test to my analytics, the RC section had 26 instead of 27 Qs. Is this just me?
alizsafawi42
Monday, Mar 08 2021
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Keep in mind the Yield Protect implications of retaking a 172. You are above or at all of these schools 75th percentile class scores I believe. If you retake a 172, schools may assume that you are gunning for HYS (who have medians above 172) and be more inclined to hand you a WL on the assumption that you aren't interested in them. People with your stats tend to fare better at schools like Michigan and Virginia than people who scored 175+.
I don't think I'm understanding exactly what you're saying. I'm sure people retake all the time to get better scholarship $.
If DJ Khaled were on the 7Sage forums, he'd look at this post and say...
All jokes aside, I'm looking to form a small study group for the Jan LSAT. No score requirement, I think it would actually be useful to have a mix (people with higher scores can reinforce what the learn by helping lower scorers). Personally, my average is now around a 172 (highest was a 176). Anyone is welcome to inquire (through DMs, please) as long as you can meet after 6:30PM EST on one or more weekday. I'd like to start out with 6 people max but may expand. Preferably, I'd like to use FaceTime for these meetings but could do Google Meet as well.
CAS UGPA: 3.68
LSAT: 172
Schools:
UPenn
NYU
Georgetown
Duke
Northwestern
UVa
Michigan (in-state; undergrad school)
WashU
Strong and unique softs (3 years working in DC working on a niche policy issue by the time I matriculate, lots of publications)
I think I could get a 174+ if I retook it in June/August but is it worth the extra studying time and the cost of the test and of more prep?
Hi all,
Will law schools care if I take the Jan LSAT and apply in October. Would it look like I was trying to avoid the longer LSAT and would that look bad?
alizsafawi42
Tuesday, Nov 02 2021
just bumping this. Very curious to see if this happened to others.
Hi all,
Tomorrow is the last day to reschedule the Jan LSAT for free. I'm consistently (almost maddeningly so) getting 172s on my latest PTs. Before that I was getting 171s consistently so there's progress but its very slow. Maybe if I reschedule to Feb, I can get into inch up to a 173-174 but I might not. I'm fairly comfortable with my chances at getting into the schools I want to if I get a 172, but a higher score would be nice too.
To help with my decision, could anyone give me the lowdown on the relationship between LSAT and scholarships at T14 schools? Are certain scholarships (like the Toll at UPenn) where everyone can apply heavily dependent on LSAT and GPA or is the review process holistic?
I applied to UVA less than a month ago and just got a waitlist email. I'm a splitter 172 LSAT/3.68 UGPA.
I read on Spivey that UVA interviews most applicants but I didn't get one.
Not freaking out about it but curious as to why this came so early. Anyone else get a UVA waitlist? Or a waitlist at a school super fast?
I'd focus on PT 70 onward with a few older tests if you have time (50, 51, 62, 66, 68, 69 all come to mind). The older PTs aren't worth using because they're just so different (different LR, easier RC, LG with very weird games)