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allisongillsanford643
Thursday, Sep 21 2017
Yup I did this, took off about 6 months to study full time. I don't think it matters much, you just have to be able to account for what you were doing with your time - and deciding to study full time is not some kind of indicator that you are an inferior applicant! I think, to the contrary, it demonstrates to elite schools that you are a hard worker and can handle law school.
I would say taking the LSAT 3 times reflects more poorly on your study habits than taking time off from work and studying full time to reach your goal score.
If you had a year or two with nothing on your resume, you might get questions about what you were doing. I believe that is a screening process to make sure you are a motivated individual.
allisongillsanford643
Tuesday, Aug 23 2016
@gregoryalexanderdevine723 can't wait to see you on campus!! we start orientation on Wednesday...
allisongillsanford643
Monday, Aug 08 2016
@allisongillsanford643 I'm there this Saturday if it's happening!
allisongillsanford643
Monday, Aug 08 2016
@allisongillsanford643 invite me too!!
allisongillsanford643
Monday, Aug 08 2016
yeah it was long overdue! @nicole forgot to tag you earlier :)
allisongillsanford643
Monday, Aug 08 2016
I love Trello! I use it for everything really, but it was especially helpful for LSAT studying and law school applications. I feel that I only use it in a basic way though, if anyone has favorite features I would love to hear how you use it.
allisongillsanford643
Thursday, Jul 28 2016
This is great too, and a solid counterpoint to the one I was making:
@ngir1293288
@974
's example is excellent - without having to be non-white or economically disadvantaged, being military/military spouse, a parent and substantially older ARE things that give you a different perspective on the world that can translate in a different classroom "voice" than what you'd get from a group of mostly white, mostly middle-upper class, mostly single, mostly American born and raised millennials.
allisongillsanford643
Sunday, Jul 24 2016
I did the Trainer first because I knew about it before 7Sage, but overall they are so complimentary to each other that I don't think the order matters too much. I suggest using 7Sage for a more comprehensive LG intro, and then looking at the LG sections in the Trainer afterward.
I didn't use the Trainer study guides, you will be fine if you follow the core curriculum here and when you finish that (including drilling all problem sets), begin PTs with quality BR. Read the Trainer at any time during the CC part of your studies. Hope that helps!
allisongillsanford643
Saturday, Jul 23 2016
@alejoroarios925 please add me to the email about times, not sure I can make it but I would like to be in the loop!
allisongillsanford643
Saturday, Jul 23 2016
@peskma01918 question for you: are you a middle class straight white woman? If so, tread carefully with the DS, unless it is required for your application. I don't know your demographics, or if you have more ties to majority culture vs. other cultural viewpoints, but if you are squarely a majority culture person who writes a diversity statement about your personal experiences that have little connection to systemic inequity, you run the risk of coming off tone deaf about the values inherent in diversity. This could hurt your application more than help it, and you can always write about overcoming personal obstacles in your personal statement.
PM me if you want to talk more, I'd be happy to learn more about where you are coming from.
allisongillsanford643
Monday, Jul 18 2016
Yess!! Please do the webinar, you have so much wisdom to pass on! Get it!!
allisongillsanford643
Sunday, Jul 17 2016
If you're having issues, you probably have an imprecise understanding of what the task of the question type is - as @msami1010493 said, review the CC for NA and then if you are still having trouble, let us know.
allisongillsanford643
Sunday, Jul 17 2016
The group is still pretty new and largely unstructured, I believe @alejoroarios925 is the natural leader though. We can make it what people want/need so throw ideas out there!
allisongillsanford643
Saturday, Jul 16 2016
@amakpegba150.kpegba one thing you can do is increase your exposure to reading dense materials by reading sources like the Economist, doing that every day can help but it's a long road to actually increase your reading speed.
allisongillsanford643
Thursday, Jul 14 2016
Yeah, that's totally realistic, but you will need to master that section. You can do it, but it takes time! I got -4 on my administration, which was largely due to the third game (December 2015) which was irregular. Most people who score high get their LG down to -0/-2 average.
allisongillsanford643
Thursday, Jul 14 2016
@luizavikhnovich921 it might be helpful for you to get someone else's eyes on your work - can you pull some of these specific games and have someone (study buddy) watch your work?
allisongillsanford643
Thursday, Jul 14 2016
@roystanator440 lol maybe we should grab a drink + pizza together post LSAT for you!
@jhaldy10325 yeah it so important at that phase, you're battling for every correct answer and each right or wrong choice weighs in so heavily on your ultimate score... way to track the holistic essential strategies.
allisongillsanford643
Thursday, Jul 14 2016
One thing I really liked with the Trainer is Mike Kim's way of representing subsets on the board when they come up. JY doesn't have a similar method. That is really the only addition to 7Sage from the Trainer that I made, but I agree in general with @jhaldy10325 that having too much input on how to do games can confuse you with multiple systems. Ultimately you need to pick what works for you and stick with it, but 7Sage is the better system to start with - then consider supplementing with other materials.
allisongillsanford643
Thursday, Jul 14 2016
There is so much to be said about this process, I encourage you to do some online research and potentially hire a consultant if getting scholarship funds is a priority for you. Sometimes you can haggle, but you need leverage (such as a better offer from a peer school), and you need to do it right.
Basic overview is that you will be in a really good position for schols if you are above 75th percentile for a school in both LSAT and UGPA. You can still get some help if you're below this mark, but how much is trickier to estimate. However, this depends a lot on the school, and their degree of funding. I applied to some schools where I was way over 75th percentile on both, and their scholarship offer was far smaller than other much more highly ranked schools gave me. You need to be aware of who competes with who for the same students, because that is where they try to influence your choice by showering you with funds. Check out http://www.abarequireddisclosures.org/, you can download reports on schools and see averages of how much money they give in scholarships. And of course http://lawschoolnumbers.com/ will give you anecdotal pictures of the same information from individual students.
allisongillsanford643
Thursday, Jul 14 2016
That's a score to be seriously proud of. And since you're still climbing, I have faith you can hit that 170+ range!!
allisongillsanford643
Thursday, Jul 14 2016
As much as possible, you should simulate the test day environment by taking PTs in the morning after you've been up for a few hours. Lots of people who take PTs in the afternoon (the worst time!) or evening deal with fatigue issues that you wouldn't feel if you took it earlier in the day.
And of course you need to get enough sleep. Sleep deprivation is similar in the brain to intoxication, so unless you want a drunk LSAT score, you should be sleeping 7-9 hrs the night before (I was an RA in college and I had to attend the drinking seminar sponsored by the science dept every year...).
allisongillsanford643
Thursday, Jul 14 2016
Fantastic!! Good to hear you're shooting for Sept, but maintaining some flexibility in case you aren't where you need to be. You can get there, it's just a question of how quickly.
On games - if you haven't started the bundle (is this what you meant by needing to start the games?), you've got a pretty big task ahead. You won't be able to PT super soon if you still have that work to do.
One way you could get a sense for your progress would be to take a test and do the 2 LRs, 1 RC, and 1 game section split up over the course of the next week in the mornings or at lunches. Then you can score and see how you're doing. I think it's okay to sacrifice one PT for this in order to help you make timeline decisions.
allisongillsanford643
Thursday, Jul 14 2016
Hmm okay, that experience with the diagnostic makes it pretty hard to judge how much of a gap you have to close. It seems like you don't have reliable data, but even assuming you're starting from a baseline in the low 150s, I would really recommend that you use that first PT after you finish the CC to help you determine what a realistic timeline is for you to hit your goal score with such a demanding job. I definitely want to encourage you here, but also there are true limitations that come with setting a short timeline for yourself - something to keep in mind if you're serious about hitting that goal score.
@shanedrider779 no, I don't think it's necessary to account for that gap in your resume. You might be asked during an interview though what you did during that time.