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I know how you feel, I got rejected from the Canadian schools I applied to as well :( I've heard its normal though.

@ do you mind if I send you a message as well?

Yes ofcourse, I'd be glad to help in any way I can.

I was literally on the same boat last year. I applied to a number of Canadian Law schools, and was rejected from every one of them. It was definitely a tough situation to be in and very discouraging. I even considered giving up on my dream of going to a Canadian law school. However, I took it as a learning experience and tried again this cycle, and luckily i received my first Canadian law school acceptance.

Don't give up hope and keep trying!

Feel free to send me a message if you have any questions at all.

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The best way to increase your score is going to depend on your section score for those sections. The easiest sections to learn in order are LG, LR, and RC. RC is very easy if you already have active reading skills, but for most people that is not the case.

So if currently you are not scoring well on LG, I would say the easiest way you can increase you score is by fool proofing logic games. But if you have already fool proofed games or your logic games score is already good, then focus on LR. LR is 50% of the test, and your reading habit doesn't have that much of an impact on it as it does on RC.

For LR, focus on doing all the easy questions and skipping the hardest questions. All questions are worth the same points, so get the easy points first. Then start making a dent in the harder questions in the order of difficulty to you. Don't rush or try to finish. See it as an opportunity to get some of the harder questions.

For RC, I would say make sure to focus on active reading. Almost all people that come for help in RC do not read actively. So look up what it means to read actively, and try to implement it. It's hard to memorize the details, but you do need to understand most of the details in RC to do well -and active reading can help with that. Also remember to not spend a lot of time in questions on RC and try not to go back. You only have about 40 seconds per question in RC. This is why your reading in RC can make or break that section.

As far as knowing when you are ready to take the test depends on your PT score. If you are scoring well by March take it in March. I always say that if you don't have to take it by a certain date, don't unless you are scoring your goal score. This gives you a chance to raise your score even more. The only danger is when people move their date to six or seven months later, they tend to sometimes slack off as the date can seem very far and leads them to then not be prepared for that test date.

I hope this helps you a bit. :)

Thanks a lot for your reply! Definitely very helpful, I know my focus should be towards perfecting Logic Games.

Now you mentioned that for LR I should focus on doing the easy questions first. How do I figure out which ones are the easier ones? I don't notice a specific pattern for my LR, I don't struggle with a specific type of question. It varies each time defending on the stimulus and facts presented.

Interested!

They're for Law schools in Canada

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RC is a huge weakness for myself as well. One tip that I use which may help you achieve a better score is to only attempt 3 of the RC passages on the test. If you choose to focus on only 3 passages you can spend more time on each one and "prove out" answer choices / spend more time up front on understanding if you need to. Although I would love a super high score (170+) I'm perfectly fine with a 162-164. The catch is that you need to get nearly every question right on the 3 RC passages you choose to attempt. For the final passage I usually bubble D or whatever answers choice was picked least on the answer sheet, usually I pick up 1 extra question on the passage I didn't read.

This certainly isn't the end all be all for everyone, but it has helped me relax during RC and not worry about the clock.

Thank you so much for all that! Yes i always focus on only 3 passages, but I always get some wrong even in the passages that I attempt. Do you usually underline or mark the passages? There's a lot of different approaches online so I'm not sure which one is best in terms of RC.

However, i feel like I have a better chance at improving my LR and LG. Do you have any study tips for those sections?

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I'm in a similar position- finally accepting the fact that I'm going to retake lol. I think that a five point increase is definitely doable. If your average score is in the 150s, I'd say that your fundamentals could still be improved with the CC. With LG you don't need to repurchase since all of the videos are free (yay 7sage!). How many PTs have you taken so far?

In addition to my previous comment, I've taken about 13 PTS.

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I'm in a similar position- finally accepting the fact that I'm going to retake lol. I think that a five point increase is definitely doable. If your average score is in the 150s, I'd say that your fundamentals could still be improved with the CC. With LG you don't need to repurchase since all of the videos are free (yay 7sage!). How many PTs have you taken so far?

Great to know I'm not alone! I believe I my best option is to improve on LG and LR. So i'm not sure if I should repurchase 7Sage to go through the CC?

What would be the best way to improve on both sections? Should I re-read any of the powerscore books or the lsat trainer?

I'm just not sure how to start my studying approach from here.

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It has no effect whatsoever on your applications as it stands right now. Schools won't care much about a lower score, and certainly not a score that's only 1 point lower. So rest assured, you have done no damage!

That said, as you know - it obviously didn't help you either haha. Taking March is up to you. It will be too late for admissions purposes for the most part, but there's potential you could use a higher score for a last ditch scholarship negotiation. But I'd suggest only taking it if you have reason to believe you will score higher, of course (like, you are consistently PTing 5 points higher than your previous test).

Do you know if it'll have any impact on my chances of acceptance if the third score is significantly lower than the first 2 attempts?

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Yeah I think it'll be worth your time to start learning the fundamentals again for a month or two. Manhattenprep LR and RC books may be of interest to you. And having 7sage drilling exercises by question type should help you get your LR to improve a decent bit by June. For LG you are getting pretty close. I think keep fool-proofing and that's more than enough time to get you -0 to -2 range. What PTs have you already taken?

Thankyou so much! I have the powerscore books and the lsat trainer, would any of those be similar to Manhattenprep?

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What's your section by section breakdown?

I get -8 to -10 on LR sections. About -5/-6 on LG ( i can never get to the last game within 35 mins), and RC is my lowest section. I get about -15 wrong on RC.

When doing BR i get about -5/-6 on LR.

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No, schools really don't care if you have 1 cancel on your record. They know stuff happens... test center distractions, being sick the day of the test, etc. It only looks bad if you have multiple cancellations - then they would want a short addendum to address why. But I would think especially with the July test being the way it is, they will be expecting a lot of folks to cancel that one. Don't worry about it.

Would it be better to cancel a score or have a lower score on your file?

For instance, i have taken the lsat twice already, and did my third attempt this past weekend. I am almost 100% sure that i did worse on my third attempt than the first two, so is it advisable for me to just cancel it or keep it even if it ends up beig the loswest?

(I will be writing another lsat in July)

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Don't cancel. Schools only care about your highest score.

Doesn't it look bad on our application if we have so many attempts with low scores?

As @ said, it's probably not a big deal as long as you don't have 10 cancellations. You will know going into your next proctored exam where your score range will be. I would not take the test again until you are consistently close to your target score. Even if a school asks you to write an addendum asking why you have so many scores on record, do not worry about it because you can always mention that you knew that you were capable of excelling on the test.

I know you are worried about the digital LSAT, but just wait and see to see if it is doom and gloom or a godsend.

Thank you so much!

In your opinion @, would it be a better option just to cancel my score from yesterday (i'm almost 100% sure it's lower than my last attempt), or just keep it even if it is lower than my first two attempts?

I know everyone says that cancelling it or keeping it is pretty much the same thing, but i'm still debatig about whether one will be better than another.

I agree with most people’s comments. I think that in your case just get the score you don’t know for sure that you did terrible and like other people have said, the school’s only need to report the highest score so their is little incentive for them to penalize multiple takes. In my opinion 4 is kind of the border for when I think it starts to get excessive. 5 or 6 seems like a bit much and unless you are showing steady improvement I think at that point it can start to hurt you a little.

Thank you so much for that!

You mentioned that a steady improvement won't hurt. So even if my third attempt has a lower score than my first two, should i still consider keeping it on my record?

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Don't cancel. Schools only care about your highest score.

Doesn't it look bad on our application if we have so many attempts with low scores?

As @ said, it's probably not a big deal as long as you don't have 10 cancellations. You will know going into your next proctored exam where your score range will be. I would not take the test again until you are consistently close to your target score. Even if a school asks you to write an addendum asking why you have so many scores on record, do not worry about it because you can always mention that you knew that you were capable of excelling on the test.

I know you are worried about the digital LSAT, but just wait and see to see if it is doom and gloom or a godsend.

Thank you so much!

In your opinion @, would it be a better option just to cancel my score from yesterday (i'm almost 100% sure it's lower than my last attempt), or just keep it even if it is lower than my first two attempts?

I know everyone says that cancelling it or keeping it is pretty much the same thing, but i'm still debatig about whether one will be better than another.

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Been reading a fair bit about the January exam. For those who also wrote in November, did you find it to be easier/about the same/more challenging than January? This is obviously a subjective question.

Thanks!

Definitely harder!

One of the LR section was very difficult.

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@ I believe it's a wash between a cancellation and a lower score. The lower score won't hurt you. With no longer having to average scores, and there no longer being a limit on the number of times you can take, schools have NO incentive not to just take your highest score and run with it. It's all they have to report, it's all that affects their rankings, so it's all they care about. It might be slightly different if you want to apply T14, but otherwise you should be fine.

Okay perfect! Thank you so much for all that, I really needed to hear that to help make up my mind.

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@ A cancel will show up on your record, so it will still show as 3 attempts. So in that regard a cancel won't necessarily help you. 4 takes isn't ideal, but it's also not excessive. Schools only have to take that sweet, sweet top score, and that's what they do!

As far as June or July goes, it depends on whether you want to take the 50% chance of sitting the digital LSAT or not. If you'd way rather have the certainty of paper, you should probably knuckle down for June. If the way it's administered doesn't concern you, then study until your PT scores are a little above your ideal score. I assume if you're considering the July, that you'd be applying for a 2020 start, right? If so, you could even go for September. I know all of the law school admissions pages say "Rolling basis! Apply early!", but a late September or early October application is still very competitive timing. All to say that you should take the test when you feel ready to crush it and not have to worry about it a 5th time ;-)

I've applied for this cycle, but i will be applying again for the next cycle. My only confusion is will it be worse to have a cancelation on my file or a third attempt that's lower than the second one?

My score is in the low 150s, and i want atleast a 160 for my next one, so i might just do it in June because I don't know how i feel about the electronic tests.

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Don't cancel. Schools only care about your highest score.

Doesn't it look bad on our application if we have so many attempts with low scores?

It's not ideal, but outside of HYS, you're probably going to be fine. Try to only take when you're really feeling ready & PTing in your ideal range to keep from having 10 tries on your record ;-)

I took the lsat twice already, and my score improved the second time around. However, although i didn't feel 100% ready, i still went ahead and wrote the saturday lsat (my 3rd attempt). But i don't feel very confident about it. I have a strong feeling i scored lower than my last score. I will be writing it again in June or July (any advice on which one I should register for?)

So my dilemma now is if i should just wait to see how i did on Saturday or cancel my score? If i don't cancel it i'll have 3 attempts on my file, and then a 4th one in june/july.

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Don't cancel. Schools only care about your highest score.

Doesn't it look bad on our application if we have so many attempts with low scores?