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Saturday, Jun 30 2018

@ yeah I'm also kinda curious to see how much admissions are gonna change when I get back in 2 years. Both with the GRE and if this years competitive cycle is an anomaly or the beginning of a trend.

@ I felt like I managed my stress a lot better the second test, but I've underperformed my average by a few points on both takes so I feel a little bit worn down by the prospect of that happening a 3rd time.

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Saturday, Jun 30 2018

@ I'm going to be in rural Benin, and I dont know how reliable my access to the internet will be. And the nearest test site is in Nigeria, so it will probably require at least 2 days to travel there. Not insurmountable odds but not ideal either. I'd certainly at least bring the Powerscore books and work through those, but since I dont know exactly what my living situation will be, I'm not comfortable relying on that time for quality studying.

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Friday, Jun 29 2018

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Another "Retake?" Post

Hoping to get some thoughts from outsiders perspective. Just checked my June score and got a 165.

This is a few points below my average PTs (168) with a few in the low 170s. I know conventional wisdom is that I should definitely retake (and I plan to), it's just a matter of when.

I'm signed up for the July LSAT and I'm trying to decide whether or not to take it. Heres my situation: I'm joining the Peace Corps and leaving the country September 15. While I could technically take the September exam, I've ruled it out because I don't want to be studying for the lsat until right before I leave. I'm prioritizing spending time preparing for my service and visiting friends and family before I'm gone for 2 years (I highly doubt I'll be able to come back and visit during my service).

So I'm trying to decide if I should take the July test or push back retaking until I get back from the PC. I'm comfortable with waiting. I'm not opposed to finishing my service and moving back, finding a job and working at a nonprofit for a year or however long it takes while I pick back up my studies. But I also think if I could score a 170 in July I wouldn't have to take it again.

GPA is right around a 3.5 and my goals are lower T-14 or a hefty scholarship to a Tier 1 school in the south.

I just don't think I can do enough in 3 weeks to feel confident that I can get a 170 on the July test and given that it would take up one of the 2.5 months I have left I'm just not sure the trade-off is worth it.

Score breakdown for June was -3 LG, -6 RC, -5 LR, -3 LR

I messed up my timing on RC and missed 3 from speeding through the last passage. My LG score is pretty representative and I usually miss between 1 and 4 on LR sections. What do y'all think I should do?

Edit: also this was my second take. First was a 160 in September 2017 after self studying.

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amatthews304968
Thursday, Jun 28 2018

I write reeeeally low resolution summaries next to each paragraph. Like one or two words. And it's generally the same 20 or so buzzwords (i.e. "hypothesis", "argument 1", "criticism", etc) for every passage. It definitely helps me to write something down because my memory is not great. Those nonspecific summaries help me formulate the structure and I find that they're generally enough to jog my memory about what info the paragraph contains for the questions. Like everyone else has said you just have to figure out what works best for you! I spent about a week drilling RC passages untimed just to try out what method I was most comfortable with.

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amatthews304968
Sunday, May 27 2018

I definitely think you're overdoing it on the PTs! I also work full time and I can't imagine cramming that many in one week. I think the general consensus is that they're more of a marker for how you're doing and a great way to pinpoint weaknesses, but not a great way to fix those weaknesses. Honestly this close to test day, the best thing to do is let your brain REST and absorb the info you've already learned rather than try to cram as much as possible in before test day. Try only doing one or two timed sections in a night and really give them a thorough review, and write out your reasoning for any Qs you struggle with (this has helped me tremendously).

I also saw a drop in my RC scores after I focused on LG and found that most helpful for me was practicing RC passages untimed and really focusing on the structure of the passage. I figured out what works best for me is to make margin notes about the structure/role of each paragraph. I practiced it for a few nights untimed so I could really drill in that way of thinking without the pressure of time constraints.

It feels counter-intuitive but I think our best strategy in the next 2 weeks is to chill out and focus on helping our brains absorb the information and strategies we've learned over the past months.

Good luck! We got this.

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amatthews304968
Sunday, Nov 26 2017

Would it be alright if I join? I probably won't be a part of study sessions until mid January (when I anticipate finishing the CC).

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amatthews304968
Tuesday, Apr 24 2018

Hi! Just FYI the spreadsheet title says PT 70, but the questions/sections are for 72.

I'm hoping to join the call tonight, but have something that may come up this evening so I'm not 100%. Looking forward to it!

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amatthews304968
Wednesday, May 23 2018

Just scored this test and got my first ever 179 on BR. Thanks, of course, to some teamwork, but it still feels good!

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amatthews304968
Tuesday, May 15 2018

I'm not an ultimate+ user, so not sure about being able to find a packet. I have all of the "Actual, Official" books so I've just been working my way through those.

Not sure if I have specific tips, but I'll give you my experience. RC used to be my worst (and thus least confident) section. I DREADED it. Was averaging around -10 trying different timing strategies until I decided to dedicate a couple weeks to RC. I started off practicing the memory method totally untimed. I wouldn't "dissect" each paragraph but I would make sure to come up with a low resolution summary for each one. Eventually I found that lowest resolution works best for me. i.e. P1: Background Info P2: Introduction of issue P3: First viewpoint / 2nd viewpoint P4: Author's Reaction or something along those lines. Then I'd make sure I wrote out what I thought the main point was, flip it over and rewrite all the summaries and the main point.

I did that for just a few PTs worth of sections and then I started timing myself with a stopwatch (just to see where I stood) and I was pleased to see I could do all of this in under 40 minutes. From there I started practicing passages just writing the low-res summaries and taking a second at the end of a passage to formulate a MP in my head before going into the questions. I go around -2 a section now. For me the biggest few things have been: 1. writing low-res summaries that focus on the structure rather than the content (I think this also helps direct you to the right place in a passage when you need to return to it during questions and 2. Knowing when I'm sinking too much time into one question, skipping it and moving on. I'll come back to it at the end of the passage, give it another read and if I can't figure it out, circle an answer and move on.

I think just getting a number of passages under your belt to practice the low res summaries helps you see "patterns" and I generally use the same buzzwords for my summaries passage to passage.

If I'm not working on RC one night, I'll still do one passage untimed and write everything out to hammer in that way of approaching passages. I also read a few articles in The Economist before bed and have an app (Vocabulary Builder i think?) to learn new and unfamiliar words.

Good luck!

EDIT: Forgot to mention that I also watched J.Y.'s explanation videos for all passages in the beginning and now just passages/questions that I struggle with.

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amatthews304968
Wednesday, Jun 13 2018

This was my Sunday, pre-test activity. Perfect balance of taking my mind off things and motivating me for Monday! And I don't think you have to blame the emotions on preggo hormones... I maaaay have teared up a time or two.

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amatthews304968
Tuesday, Jun 12 2018

@ @

I had 3 LR also. According to Reddit, the first LR section was experimental and the two 25 question sections were the real ones!

I'm hoping this info is accurate, which would be great because I definitely got a little psyched out during that first section.

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amatthews304968
Monday, Jun 11 2018

@ i also had 3 LR! Didn't think they were too bad either but definitely got a little psyched out on the first one (all I remember is that it had like 5 point of disagreement questions which I thought was a little unusual).

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amatthews304968
Sunday, May 06 2018

I would honestly try meditation! I started doing a quick 5-10 minute meditation before studying every day and I think it's helped me during testing to take a second to stop and "reset" my brain so I can refocus.

I just downloaded the Headspace app and use the free version.

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Tuesday, Mar 06 2018

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Best way to utilize time before June?

Hey y'all. Hoping to get a few people's opinions on how I should utilize the next 3 months prior to sitting for the June exam.

A little background first: I sat for the September17 exam after self-studying with the Kaplan books for a few months. I was PTing all over the 160s prior to the exam but ended up scoring a 160 on the real thing. I did alright on the LG and LR sections but got killed on the RC section which was already my most volatile section.

I started studying with 7Sage in December (and got a new diagnostic of 162 after not studying for a few months... sigh) and have made my way through the CC and am currently fool-proofing LG and already seeing some improvement! So here's my predicament. I work full-time and share responsibility with my parents helping out my brother. AKA I'm busy like a lot of other people are. My current strategy for fool-proofing is doing one new PT of games per day (studying 6 days per week). At this rate I should be winding down the FPing in the beginning of April and then I can do a little RC and LR review before hitting PTs until June.

My problem is that this way I really only have time to do LR and RC problems on the weekends and even that can be exhausting. I currently average around -5 per sections so I don't have any immediate stand-out weaknesses other than my RC scores have always been all over the board. For this reason I'm afraid to spend so much time devoted to LG without really giving the other sections much attention. I'm trying to decide if I should extend the FP process by a doing fewer new games each day so I also have time to hit a RC passage and a few LR questions each night. If I do this I won't finish FPing until late April and then I'll only have a little over a month to PT. Prior to taking the September test I probably took around 10 PTs so I'm not totally unfamiliar with the timing of the test, but I'm worried about only doing 5-6 PTs before the real thing.

Oh, and I recently got accepted into the Peace Corps! Which is very exciting! But also means the June test is my only option before I leave.

Edit:: Also my goal is high 160s

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amatthews304968
Wednesday, Apr 04 2018

Awesome, thanks y'all! Just needed some confirmation while I overthink every step of this process.

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Tuesday, Apr 03 2018

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Applying with "old" LSAT score

Hey guys, just hoping to get some opinions. I've been studying for the LSAT for over a year now. Took it once, didn't quite the score I wanted, so I'm taking it again in June (and July if necessary).

After my disappointing first test I decided to apply for the Peace Corps as it's something I've always wanted to do and the timing felt right. I was invited to serve (yay!) and I'll be moving to Benin come September. My service lasts until December 2020, so I would plan to apply for Fall 2021. I know LSAT scores technically last 5 years, but I've heard schools feel differently about older scores. I'm not super worried about it if I do end up applying for Fall 2021, but I think there's a chance I may apply the following Fall if I extend my service or decide to work for a non-profit for a year between PC and law school.

I've already dedicated so much time to studying and am feeling pretty positive that I'll be able to get my goal score come June, so I don't want to let this progress go to waste. Are schools going to care if I apply for the Fall 2022 semester with a June/July 2018 LSAT score?

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amatthews304968
Tuesday, May 01 2018

I'm gonna try to hop on halfway through if I can make it! Learned so much last week.

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amatthews304968
Tuesday, May 01 2018

@ said:

FT worker here as well. Thanks for this. I usually try to get a couple of hours in after work. I'll need to bump it up a few hours. Will you be working FT once you're in law school?

I'm definitely still a work in progress when it comes to focusing for the full 4 hours after work! Sometimes if I get home and my brain isn't working at full capacity I'll have a cup of tea and work as long as the tea does and then call it a night. I find I just get more stressed out by studying when my brain is too tired for full (or mostly full) comprehension.

I have kind of a weird path. I'm taking the LSAT then joining the Peace Corps in September, so I won't be attending law school until Fall 2021 at the earliest. I plan on being a student full-time and perhaps picking up a side hustle after 1L.

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amatthews304968
Tuesday, May 01 2018

I'm working full time so not quite what you're looking for, but I am curious how other FT working people are planning to spend their time. I'm PTing in the high 160s/low 170s which is my goal score so I'm hoping to push that score up a few points on my PTs so I feel more comfortable walking into the real thing. Doing this by focusing on getting my LG consistently at -0/-2 (currently average -3/-4) and there always seem to be one or two easy questions I miss in LR so I'm trying to figure out what's going wrong there.

Right now its:

Wake Up 7

Work 8 - 4:30

Drive home, eat a snack, lay in bed for 10 minutes: 4:30 - 5:30

Meditate 5:30 - 5:40

Study 5:40 - 9:30 ish

I usually take a quick break somewhere in there to eat dinner (I try to meal prep on Sundays so I just have to pop it in the microwave and eat it)

Then I shower, clean up my room a little, maybe chat with my roommates for a bit and try to be in bed around 10:30 to read The Economist until I fall asleep.

On the weekends I PT on Saturday and BR on Sunday. I try to take off one night or day per week, but that changes depending on what my outside obligations are that week.

Things that I don't do as much of: hang out with my friends, go to the gym, play sports.

Not going to the gym kills me the most. I try to make it on the weekends but I used to go 4-5 days a week plus play rec league ultimate. I try to walk on my lunch break at work so I don't go totally insane.

Luckily I live with my best friend so we at least see each others faces on a regular basis. And on the weekends I switch off hanging with friends or visiting my parents for a few hours.

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