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Hi everyone,

I have submitted an application to this one law school about two months ago, but it hasn't get back to me with any official decision yet (not even waitlisted or rejected).

I have email them a LOCI last week, which their office of admissions replied by saying that they will notify the admissions committee of my strong continued interest. But still, no official decision received yet.

Do you guys think I still have a chance to get admitted into this one?

Thanks.

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arthurholmeskwan890
Friday, Apr 27 2018

@jkatz1488955 said:

I think this is where a LOCI (letter of continued interest) is appropriate. Have you written one yet?

A competing offer, in and of itself, wouldn't seem to strengthen your chances of admission so much as it strengthens your scholarship negotiation position following admission. But you could use it as an opportunity to convey your preference for their school (the school you haven't heard back from).

Yes, two days ago I have sent a very creative LOCI to the higher rank school, and their office of admission replied that they will notify the admissions committee of my strong continue interest.

Meanwhile, I would like to see if there is anything else I could do to increase my chances of admission, including send them the offer from the lower rank school (if it helps), or pay them a visit if it is not too late to do it now.

It may sound stupid but I am not thinking much about scholarship, I just want to get into a law school and start a new page of my life.

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Friday, Apr 27 2018

arthurholmeskwan890

Will an offer from a lower rank school helps?

Hi everyone,

I just received an offer from a lower rank school which I am willing to attend. However, I am still waiting for a response from a higher rank school which I really like but hasn't get back to me yet (not even waitlisted).

So I would like to know, will sending the higher rank school the offer from the lower rank school increase my chance of getting in, or will it help speed up their decision making?

Just so you know both schools are in Chicago.

Thanks in advance!

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Monday, Apr 09 2018

@arthurholmeskwan890 said:

@arthurholmeskwan890 said:

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@arthurholmeskwan890 said:

@marine4life6798246 said:

I think people usually send in the LOCI right after the deposit deadline because that's when schools start to look back to the waitlist. You don't want to send it in earlier because the later you send it(while still getting it in before they might start looking to accept people off the waitlist) the more likely it seems to them that you will still be interested when and if they accept you.

As far as material, I'm sure you have further reasobs for wanting to go to the school. You can also use the LOCI to update them if you have had any major resume changes.

Thanks for the advice. Do you think visiting the school at this point will increase my chance of admission?

Visiting can't hurt. It's something, that if you are capable of doing, I would defiantly keep in mind. Visiting can also give you more substantive material to write about when you submit your LOCI. You want this school to know you are extremely interested in them and admission to their school!

Lord Vader, thanks for your advice.

After reading some online articles, I come up with this idea that since I want to become a prosecutor, if I email the criminal law professor of the school, introduce myself, tell him my goal, show him how good I am and my desire of becoming a student of him, do you think he will offer some help/advice/insight on how to get off the waitlist? Or this just sound too crazy?

Nothing sounds crazy! I think if you do it in the right way it is a great idea. Just make sure you don't come off as super pushy. If they seem to not like the idea, or being bothered, just let it go!

I visited one of my top choices last Friday and sat in on a class and LOVED it. I'm all set to write a LOCI based on the experience I had!

Good to know that we are both making progress!

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Monday, Apr 09 2018

@arthurholmeskwan890 said:

@arthurholmeskwan890 said:

@marine4life6798246 said:

I think people usually send in the LOCI right after the deposit deadline because that's when schools start to look back to the waitlist. You don't want to send it in earlier because the later you send it(while still getting it in before they might start looking to accept people off the waitlist) the more likely it seems to them that you will still be interested when and if they accept you.

As far as material, I'm sure you have further reasobs for wanting to go to the school. You can also use the LOCI to update them if you have had any major resume changes.

Thanks for the advice. Do you think visiting the school at this point will increase my chance of admission?

Visiting can't hurt. It's something, that if you are capable of doing, I would defiantly keep in mind. Visiting can also give you more substantive material to write about when you submit your LOCI. You want this school to know you are extremely interested in them and admission to their school!

Lord Vader, thanks for your advice.

After reading some online articles, I come up with this idea that since I want to become a prosecutor, if I email the criminal law professor of the school, introduce myself, tell him my goal, show him how good I am and how much I want to become his student, do you think he will offer some help/advice/insight on how to get off the waitlist? Or this is just a crazy idea which may jeopardize my chance of admission?

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arthurholmeskwan890
Monday, Apr 09 2018

@marine4life6798246 said:

I think people usually send in the LOCI right after the deposit deadline because that's when schools start to look back to the waitlist. You don't want to send it in earlier because the later you send it(while still getting it in before they might start looking to accept people off the waitlist) the more likely it seems to them that you will still be interested when and if they accept you.

As far as material, I'm sure you have further reasobs for wanting to go to the school. You can also use the LOCI to update them if you have had any major resume changes.

Thanks for the advice. Do you think visiting the school at this point will increase my chance of admission?

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Hi everyone,

Just received an email that I was wait-listed by a school which I am willing to attend.

The school's full/first deposit deadline is April 16. Is there anything I should do before now and then to increase my chance of being admitted?

By the way, I already submitted a "why school X" essay with my application, so my LOCI will need to be something else.

Thanks in advance!

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arthurholmeskwan890
Wednesday, Mar 07 2018

@leahbeuk911 said:

Just to get a little background, do you mind telling us when you started with 7sage and what your study has been like so far? Have you finished the cc? Have you done any foolproofing? About how many full PTs have you done? What was your PT average going into these tests, especially the February one?

Answering some of those could help us help you brainstorm on any changes to your approach going forward. Totally get the limited time, I worked full time while studying too. But I think if you have a set approach on how to tackle specific weaknesses, you can make your study time efficient.

Hi Leah,

I started 7Sage in Mid 2017 before my September 2017 LSAT. Looking back I would say my study was "inconsistent" and "not enough dedication."

I skipped around in the CC so I did not finish it yet.

I have done some foolproofing but I just focused on solving hard and hardest games. Now I understand that it is wrong as I stalled and unable to make inferences in real tests for some easier games.

I have done about 10 full PTs. Before I go into the Feb 2018 LSAT my average was 150s for timed, and 160 for BR.

I think the priority for me is get into a correct/healthy study habit.

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arthurholmeskwan890
Wednesday, Mar 07 2018

@rileymajeunefagan676 said:

I think that sounds good. When I studied for my retake, I did the core curriculum first and then the foolproofing, but it might be better to have something to sort of break the foolproofing up.

In this case maybe I just break them up as every other day.

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arthurholmeskwan890
Wednesday, Mar 07 2018

@rileymajeunefagan676 said:

The first thing to do if you are not perfect in logic games is to foolproof games 1-35 until you are -0 or -1 almost every time. Aim to go back over the core curriculum and do this foolproofing completely by June.

Should the revisit of core curriculum and foolproofing conduct simultaneously?

Does Monday to Friday foolproofing, Saturday and Sunday watching CC videos sounds like a good plan?

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Wednesday, Mar 07 2018

arthurholmeskwan890

Which next test day should I aim for?

Hi Everyone,

I still didn't do well on my Feb 2018 LSAT, but I am not giving up, so I decided to wreck the foundation and start all over again.

I have taken the LSAT three times already, and here are the stats:

September 2017: 142

December 2017: 150

February 2018: 146

Sectional scores, lets said they are all under 15.

I admit, due to work, family matters, and all other...excuses, I am not fully engaged in my study, which created these devastating results. As Adam Hawks once said in my other post, "Because law school is still a meat grinder and will chew you up and spit you out a different person, please understand what the LSAT represents and how it will apply to you in your studies." Now I understand what he means.

Back to the subject, I am working full time Monday to Friday, and I have family obligations, so the maximum study time for me is 20 hours per week. My target score is between160 to 165.

Therefore, should I still aim for the June 2018 LSAT? Or I should aim for a later test day like September 2018?

Thank you!

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arthurholmeskwan890
Wednesday, Mar 07 2018

@ianrobertparkins157 said:

So torn on whether to obsessively refresh or wait for the email..... thoughts!?!?!?

Just wait for the email, it could take long

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arthurholmeskwan890
Wednesday, Mar 07 2018

It turned grey, it is on!

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Tuesday, Feb 27 2018

The extended score cancellation deadline is for the people who take the makeup exam on Feb 24 (including myself). We have until 3pm on Feb 28 to submit the cancellation request, which is less than six days...

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arthurholmeskwan890
Thursday, Feb 22 2018

"I am the liaison between my company and the hospital. My job is to obtain documents from the hospital in order for my company to (insert the purpose). After I got the documents, I (insert what you do with them)." This should sounds better.

Good luck on your interviews!

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arthurholmeskwan890
Thursday, Feb 22 2018

@lucykelly459 said:

@ohnoeshalpme804 I am concerned about a new job possibly being a distraction. One benefit of doing this brain-dead zombie work is that I have a lot of brain power/energy left over for studying after work.

Another huge concern I have is the possibility of law school interviews next cycle. If I keep this job, and an interviewer asks me about my job, I'll have nothing to say. If I get one of those "what's a situation where you had to...at your job" like a teamwork question or handling stressful situations at work or whatever, I wouldnt be able to answer. I'd have to answer based off of my legal secretary job from 2016 and I dont think that would look good.

If your current job makes your LSAT study easier, you should definitely keep it until you reach your target score because LSAT supposed to be the primary goal in your life right now.

As someone who has prior experiences interviewing people, I would say there is always a way to make your current job sound more interesting or more meaningful. Try to write it up, practice it by telling other people and see what they think, then adjust it if necessary.

As for the teamwork or stressful situation questions, I would say unless the interviewer clearly stated "your current job" in the question, otherwise you could always use example(s) from previous jobs. As long as you could tell the interviewer what you did in a specific situation, the question is answered.

Hope this help.

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arthurholmeskwan890
Thursday, Feb 22 2018

I think one factor to consider is whether the new job will affect your LSAT study schedule or not.

Aggressive employers will call employees on weekends to ask them do things, and expect employees to provide results within the same day or the following Monday. I happen to have an employer like this. Although he did not call every weekend and the tasks he asked for wasn't taking long to complete (less than an hour), it still affected my mood of study.

Therefore, if the job pay well, close to your home, and will not affect your LSAT study, I suggest you stay until you get a satisfied LSAT score.

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Thursday, Feb 22 2018

@arthurholmeskwan890 said:

@arthurholmeskwan890 if your LSAT got postponed, do you think that will affect release date of scores?

It still shows 3/8/2018 on my chart so I assume they will post my score on the same day as everybody.

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Thursday, Feb 22 2018

@mcglazo260 said:

Are you able to read the LOR once the recommender uploads it to LSAC or is it forever a mystery unless you ask to read it? I'm just really curious what to except when I have to do this.

If your waive the right, it is forever a mystery. The LSAC even said once you waived your right, you could not review the letters at your law school even after the admission process is completed.

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arthurholmeskwan890
Wednesday, Feb 21 2018

I brought four watches (one on my waist to tell the real world time, and three others for section timing) into two real LSAT and no one ever stopped me. So I think as long as the item is not listed as prohibited, you could always bring it into the test center.

Just eat what you would normally eat for breakfast. For snack during break, some water and a cereal bar/banana/or your favor fruit would be idea, just make sure it is not something which will make you sleepy.

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arthurholmeskwan890
Wednesday, Feb 21 2018

@mcglazo260 said:

Would it be unethical or weird to ask your recommender to supply you with a copy so you can read it beforehand? I'm not applying until next year so I have no idea how the LOR process works. Are the letters just uploaded to LSAC by the recommender instead of the student doing so?

There is nothing unethical about asking recommender to show you or supply you with a copy of the letter, as long as you are not threatening them to do so :smile: However, depends on your relationship with your recommender, or what kind of person he/she is, you should consider whether to ask for a copy or not.

And after sent couple of requests to my recommenders, I would said unless my recommenders uploaded wrong letters to wrong requests, otherwise everything should be fine.

And yes, the recommender upload the letter, not the student.

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arthurholmeskwan890
Wednesday, Feb 21 2018

Thanks everyone,

I will waive the right when I submit requests.

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arthurholmeskwan890
Monday, Feb 19 2018

I know exactly how you feel, and I am more anxious than you are as my Feb LSAT got postponed to this Saturday due to the extreme weather on Feb 10th.

Regardless, I agree with Paul Caint, you could submit your application now. On a recent webinar I attended, the dean of the law school said if they saw that an applicant has taken the Feb LSAT, they will not review the application until the score is in.

So if you have make up your mind on applying for Aug 2018 and all other parts of your application are ready, don't delay on submitting your application.

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arthurholmeskwan890
Monday, Feb 19 2018

Thanks everyone, all these should keep me busy for the coming week.

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