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I think this is where a LOCI (letter of continued interest) is appropriate. Have you written one yet?

A competing offer, in and of itself, wouldn't seem to strengthen your chances of admission so much as it strengthens your scholarship negotiation position following admission. But you could use it as an opportunity to convey your preference for their school (the school you haven't heard back from).

Yes, two days ago I have sent a very creative LOCI to the higher rank school, and their office of admission replied that they will notify the admissions committee of my strong continue interest.

Meanwhile, I would like to see if there is anything else I could do to increase my chances of admission, including send them the offer from the lower rank school (if it helps), or pay them a visit if it is not too late to do it now.

It may sound stupid but I am not thinking much about scholarship, I just want to get into a law school and start a new page of my life.

The extended score cancellation deadline is for the people who take the makeup exam on Feb 24 (including myself). We have until 3pm on Feb 28 to submit the cancellation request, which is less than six days...

"I am the liaison between my company and the hospital. My job is to obtain documents from the hospital in order for my company to (insert the purpose). After I got the documents, I (insert what you do with them)." This should sounds better.

Good luck on your interviews!

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@ I am concerned about a new job possibly being a distraction. One benefit of doing this brain-dead zombie work is that I have a lot of brain power/energy left over for studying after work.

Another huge concern I have is the possibility of law school interviews next cycle. If I keep this job, and an interviewer asks me about my job, I'll have nothing to say. If I get one of those "what's a situation where you had to...at your job" like a teamwork question or handling stressful situations at work or whatever, I wouldnt be able to answer. I'd have to answer based off of my legal secretary job from 2016 and I dont think that would look good.

If your current job makes your LSAT study easier, you should definitely keep it until you reach your target score because LSAT supposed to be the primary goal in your life right now.

As someone who has prior experiences interviewing people, I would say there is always a way to make your current job sound more interesting or more meaningful. Try to write it up, practice it by telling other people and see what they think, then adjust it if necessary.

As for the teamwork or stressful situation questions, I would say unless the interviewer clearly stated "your current job" in the question, otherwise you could always use example(s) from previous jobs. As long as you could tell the interviewer what you did in a specific situation, the question is answered.

Hope this help.

I think one factor to consider is whether the new job will affect your LSAT study schedule or not.

Aggressive employers will call employees on weekends to ask them do things, and expect employees to provide results within the same day or the following Monday. I happen to have an employer like this. Although he did not call every weekend and the tasks he asked for wasn't taking long to complete (less than an hour), it still affected my mood of study.

Therefore, if the job pay well, close to your home, and will not affect your LSAT study, I suggest you stay until you get a satisfied LSAT score.

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It still shows 3/8/2018 on my chart so I assume they will post my score on the same day as everybody.

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Are you able to read the LOR once the recommender uploads it to LSAC or is it forever a mystery unless you ask to read it? I'm just really curious what to except when I have to do this.

If your waive the right, it is forever a mystery. The LSAC even said once you waived your right, you could not review the letters at your law school even after the admission process is completed.

I brought four watches (one on my waist to tell the real world time, and three others for section timing) into two real LSAT and no one ever stopped me. So I think as long as the item is not listed as prohibited, you could always bring it into the test center.

Just eat what you would normally eat for breakfast. For snack during break, some water and a cereal bar/banana/or your favor fruit would be idea, just make sure it is not something which will make you sleepy.

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Would it be unethical or weird to ask your recommender to supply you with a copy so you can read it beforehand? I'm not applying until next year so I have no idea how the LOR process works. Are the letters just uploaded to LSAC by the recommender instead of the student doing so?

There is nothing unethical about asking recommender to show you or supply you with a copy of the letter, as long as you are not threatening them to do so :smile: However, depends on your relationship with your recommender, or what kind of person he/she is, you should consider whether to ask for a copy or not.

And after sent couple of requests to my recommenders, I would said unless my recommenders uploaded wrong letters to wrong requests, otherwise everything should be fine.

And yes, the recommender upload the letter, not the student.

Thanks everyone,

I will waive the right when I submit requests.

I know exactly how you feel, and I am more anxious than you are as my Feb LSAT got postponed to this Saturday due to the extreme weather on Feb 10th.

Regardless, I agree with Paul Caint, you could submit your application now. On a recent webinar I attended, the dean of the law school said if they saw that an applicant has taken the Feb LSAT, they will not review the application until the score is in.

So if you have make up your mind on applying for Aug 2018 and all other parts of your application are ready, don't delay on submitting your application.

Thanks everyone, all these should keep me busy for the coming week.

Hi everyone,

Thanks for providing point of views from both the positive and negative side (and the dark side).

I think I will decide after I received my Feb LSAT score.

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So a lot of schools' readers are actually professors or ex-professors. A lot of the time they read the letters of rec to understand what kind of student you are like inside of the classroom (hence why many schools stress having 2 academic letters of rec). Presuming you were good in the class of your recommender - participated, got good grades, etc - you should have them advocate for your ability to contribute to class discussions, enrich the education of others, etc. etc.

Hi Paul, thanks for the comment.

You reminded me that I should explain I am out of school for 7 years, which I forgot to mention in my original post.

This post has fallen to the dark side......

Anyway, back to the story. My boss hires lawyers from outside every now and then to handle legal matters but he just don't trust them and always questions about their billings. I am my boss's liaison with lawyers and his eyes on the lawyers. Therefore, as someone who work closely with the boss everyday and have his trust, if I become a lawyer, I will become the general counsel of the company.

The general counsel offer is not time sensitive, but my boss is. He is over 80 years old and could pass away anytime.

If it turns out my boss dies before I graduate, there will still be benefit. Our company consist of less than 50 employees, and the headquarter where I work at has only six people. therefore, as the only one who have in depth legal knowledge and know all the backbones about the company, job security is very high.

Although if I apply this year I may get less money from the law school, but if I graduate one year sooner, the potential income maybe able to make up the difference.

Oh man this could becomes a writing sample question for the LSAT.

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What will be different if you delay until next cycle?

The earlier the better for me, base on the following:

I am working full time, my father is semi-retired and my mother will fully retire before the end of this year. The entire financial burden of my family will fall on me fairly soon, which a lot of things could become uncertain for the next couple of years. So I would like to start my legal journey while nothing is preventing me from doing so.

On top of #1, I wan't able to get a raise for last year due to not many changes in my job duty and education background. If I enrolled into law school this year, I would at least have something to bargain by the end of this year. This will help reduce certain financial burden immediately.

The owner of the company likes me a lot, and in a recent conversation he implied that if I graduated from law school, he will likely retain me as the company's general counsel. So the sooner I graduate, the faster I will move up in the company and with a huge raise. This will ensure I could carry the entire financial burden before my father fully retire.

Kind of long, thanks for reading.

Does anyone heard anything from LSAC regarding an makeup exam yet?

Thank you.

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I think people usually send in the LOCI right after the deposit deadline because that's when schools start to look back to the waitlist. You don't want to send it in earlier because the later you send it(while still getting it in before they might start looking to accept people off the waitlist) the more likely it seems to them that you will still be interested when and if they accept you.

As far as material, I'm sure you have further reasobs for wanting to go to the school. You can also use the LOCI to update them if you have had any major resume changes.

Thanks for the advice. Do you think visiting the school at this point will increase my chance of admission?

Visiting can't hurt. It's something, that if you are capable of doing, I would defiantly keep in mind. Visiting can also give you more substantive material to write about when you submit your LOCI. You want this school to know you are extremely interested in them and admission to their school!

Lord Vader, thanks for your advice.

After reading some online articles, I come up with this idea that since I want to become a prosecutor, if I email the criminal law professor of the school, introduce myself, tell him my goal, show him how good I am and my desire of becoming a student of him, do you think he will offer some help/advice/insight on how to get off the waitlist? Or this just sound too crazy?

Nothing sounds crazy! I think if you do it in the right way it is a great idea. Just make sure you don't come off as super pushy. If they seem to not like the idea, or being bothered, just let it go!

I visited one of my top choices last Friday and sat in on a class and LOVED it. I'm all set to write a LOCI based on the experience I had!

Good to know that we are both making progress!

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I think people usually send in the LOCI right after the deposit deadline because that's when schools start to look back to the waitlist. You don't want to send it in earlier because the later you send it(while still getting it in before they might start looking to accept people off the waitlist) the more likely it seems to them that you will still be interested when and if they accept you.

As far as material, I'm sure you have further reasobs for wanting to go to the school. You can also use the LOCI to update them if you have had any major resume changes.

Thanks for the advice. Do you think visiting the school at this point will increase my chance of admission?

Visiting can't hurt. It's something, that if you are capable of doing, I would defiantly keep in mind. Visiting can also give you more substantive material to write about when you submit your LOCI. You want this school to know you are extremely interested in them and admission to their school!

Lord Vader, thanks for your advice.

After reading some online articles, I come up with this idea that since I want to become a prosecutor, if I email the criminal law professor of the school, introduce myself, tell him my goal, show him how good I am and how much I want to become his student, do you think he will offer some help/advice/insight on how to get off the waitlist? Or this is just a crazy idea which may jeopardize my chance of admission?

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I think people usually send in the LOCI right after the deposit deadline because that's when schools start to look back to the waitlist. You don't want to send it in earlier because the later you send it(while still getting it in before they might start looking to accept people off the waitlist) the more likely it seems to them that you will still be interested when and if they accept you.

As far as material, I'm sure you have further reasobs for wanting to go to the school. You can also use the LOCI to update them if you have had any major resume changes.

Thanks for the advice. Do you think visiting the school at this point will increase my chance of admission?

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Just to get a little background, do you mind telling us when you started with 7sage and what your study has been like so far? Have you finished the cc? Have you done any foolproofing? About how many full PTs have you done? What was your PT average going into these tests, especially the February one?

Answering some of those could help us help you brainstorm on any changes to your approach going forward. Totally get the limited time, I worked full time while studying too. But I think if you have a set approach on how to tackle specific weaknesses, you can make your study time efficient.

Hi Leah,

I started 7Sage in Mid 2017 before my September 2017 LSAT. Looking back I would say my study was "inconsistent" and "not enough dedication."

I skipped around in the CC so I did not finish it yet.

I have done some foolproofing but I just focused on solving hard and hardest games. Now I understand that it is wrong as I stalled and unable to make inferences in real tests for some easier games.

I have done about 10 full PTs. Before I go into the Feb 2018 LSAT my average was 150s for timed, and 160 for BR.

I think the priority for me is get into a correct/healthy study habit.

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I think that sounds good. When I studied for my retake, I did the core curriculum first and then the foolproofing, but it might be better to have something to sort of break the foolproofing up.

In this case maybe I just break them up as every other day.

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The first thing to do if you are not perfect in logic games is to foolproof games 1-35 until you are -0 or -1 almost every time. Aim to go back over the core curriculum and do this foolproofing completely by June.

Should the revisit of core curriculum and foolproofing conduct simultaneously?

Does Monday to Friday foolproofing, Saturday and Sunday watching CC videos sounds like a good plan?

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So torn on whether to obsessively refresh or wait for the email..... thoughts!?!?!?

Just wait for the email, it could take long

It turned grey, it is on!