I'm trying to decide whether or not I want to write my LRS on timed sections or if I want to do them in my head. What do you do? I'm trying both out but just curious to know what everyone else has done.
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Making this post to thank everyone who has messaged me or replied to my posts the last 4 months! I was really set on taking the test in September but after experiencing burn out and realizing that I'm still not where I want to be, I've decided to take a few days off to collect myself before jumping back in to conquer the November exam. I had my reasons to avoid delaying but I've hit a point where I'm taking things in stride and trusting the process. After all, I'm not starting from nothing - rather just picking at my weaknesses and working on maximizing my strong sections.
Wanted to make this post for everyone who is currently contemplating the decision or is in the same boat as me. We got this and everything happens for a reason! Take it as a chance to restructure your study schedule and make changes accordingly - something I forgot about along the way is that the LSAT is always going to be there. It's better to take it when you're ready as opposed to forcing yourself to sit through the exam and get wrecked because you're not ready. Then you'll have to face the psychological effects of being sad or upset at your score when clearly it wasn't time to take it and enter a cycle of self-doubt and contemplating your law school dream. Don't let your pride get in the way of what's best for you!!!
Hey all!
I took a 2 1/2 week break from the LSAT while I was on vacation out of the country. It was much needed since my whole summer has consisted of nothing but LSAT studying ~30 hours a week. My break has obviously side tracked my original plans and I'm wondering if my new approach is a good one.
I originally wanted to take 2 PTs a week starting this week until the first week of September. I took PT 38 before I left and scored 8 points above my diagnostic score. My BR score for this PT was 5+ points from the raw score. I was up to PT 4 in the FP stage with around 3/4 tries until I hit perfection.
Now, I'm thinking to do 1 PT a week giving me about 6 PTs left to take. With this in mind, I was planning to do 1 PT from each group saving the rest for intense drilling and experimentals. For example, I already took a PT from the 30s. So my next one will be ONE from the 40s, 50s, etc.
My concerns are whether or not this is effective enough to expose me to the different tests and if I can't get through to PT 36 for FPing if this will be something worth concern. I can typically get through 2 PTs worth of FPing but in the event I can't make it to PT 36 - I wanted to know if this could drastically shift my goal of hitting a perfect score in LG.
Thanks to those who respond and best of luck studying :)
If it's your first time seeing the CC, do it when you're done. This is my second time going through the CC so I'm FPing while I'm learning again.
Hi all!
I am retaking the LSAT on the June 11th date. When I took the LSAT for the first time in December, I had so many hiccups prior to this. I want to explain my position in hopes of receiving some brutally honest feedback to motivate me. I started studying for the LSAT in May 2017 while doing 3 courses in the summer. I self studied using PowerScore Bibles along with 4 workbooks of LSAT practice tests. If I'm honest, I think I didn't study as hard as I should of and I didn't grasp the concepts. I was just reading the Bibles and working on sections while doing some PTs. I was prepping for the September LSAT and unfortunately, I had to postpone my exam because I got caught in Hurricane Irma (I live in Miami but I go to school in Waterloo, ON). Fast forward, LSAC allowed me to pick a date and change my test for FREE. So, I selected the December exam. I was really hopeful I could crush the LSAT with all this extra time however, the pressure of a full course load (5 courses), 3 clubs that I run, and a sport really took a toll on me. The December exam fell on a date right in the middle of semester ending thus coinciding with final exams. You can only imagine my workload with final tests, exams, papers, assignments and commitments. I was studying 25-30 hours a WEEK for the LSAT on top of my school work. I would lock myself up in the library for 8 hours on the weekends and anytime I had a break in between classes I was at the library.
The day of the test I felt so confident! I was scoring around 155 on my PTs from my diagnostic of 145 despite all of my obstacles. Then, as I was sitting in the room I lost it. It hit me all at once where I was and what was happening, I felt everyone's energy and it made me panic. I left the exam room and cried as soon as I walked into my apartment. I knew I bombed it and I did. I only got a 145 on the December exam and I tried not to discourage myself. I took a break from my LSAT studies this Winter term (Jan-April) and I just bought the Premium pack. I will start studying for the June exam on May 1st (I just need a break I just finished my exams + I need to decompress a bit!). I'm NOT working for this month, I dropped my extra online course for the summer because frankly I didn't need it, and I will either take my breaks with some work outs at my Muay Thai gym or visiting a law firm for a flexible internship.
I also burned myself out with the PTs. I went through all 4 books in 4 months. I would use timed/ untimed individual sections to work on problem areas and I would also use FULL timed tests. Looking through my custom study schedule, there are no PTs for me to take until the final weeks before the June exam. Therefore, this course is requiring me to learn the fundamentals BEFORE I begin to PT. Do you advise I follow through with this plan or try to integrate some additional PT practice? Do you think a score of 160+ is attainable with no other looming stresses around me? I think my main downfall was trying to take everything on at once and not devoting my full undivided attention. I'm looking forward to all of your responses :)
I only used the free trial of 7Sage during my studies for the December exam to review LG so now that I purchased a course I hope this will help me out!
Edit: Taking the September exam. If needed, retaking in November or January.
Going off of this, it's better to do a PT when you're mentally there. No point to waste your time or a PT just for shits!
I just finished the last RC lesson and it just hit me that it's time to kick start PTing, drilling, BRing intensely, and FPing. Idk why but I have such a strange feeling I can't explain?? I've really centered my entire life around this test where on my days off I feel guilty and even in moments where I'm relaxing I feel terrible! Just wondering how you guys cope with all these feelings of excitement, anxiety, and moments of disappointment during the process? Side note, I'm on vacation visiting an uncle in NY and he called me a weirdo for skipping a day of exploring to study for the LSAT. No joke.
3 weeks away from the September exam and PT 72 just killed me. Trying really hard to not beat myself up over this and taking it as a learning experience, however this is easier said than done. My RC score was my saving grace and after this PT... I'm just shook.
Any "post L PT trying not to have a meltdown so close to the exam" rituals you guys have?? Please lmao :( (3(/p)
A lot of Canadian universities have an option of writing an essay to explain your circumstances/ low GPA or LSAT scores. I know someone who got into Western with a 155! Keep at it but don't be too hard on yourself either because it is possible to get into a good law school with those stats, sure it's not common but if you have other things to offer, they definitely consider that. :)
You get a scrap piece of paper for games! This was my main concern too.
I'm on the same boat. November isn't really do or die for me but I'm trying to think of it that way. I graduate in April and in a perfect world, I'll start in Fall for law but obviously I've come to terms with this not happening. As a back up I've started to apply to masters programs under the Fullbright program. I withdrew from September because I also hit a huge burn out wall and I was underperforming once I hit the 70s. It's hard to jump back into it but I've just started doing things sloooowly... like I JUST finished BRing PT 74. I took it on August 30th and basically took a break from the 1st till the 11th. I thought it would be easy to dive back in but I think it's all about getting back into the routine and not being too hard on yourself if you see a dip since you've obviously been away for some time.
I drew this out in BR (I skipped timed but got correct in BR) and I thought ok well there's two groups those who support vs. don't support for reason x. The people who don't support believe x
Person A: believes opposite of x
So Person A must support
That doesn't necessarily have to be true!! I came across A and it was obvious
Support: reduce risk of fire
Andy: /reduce risk of fire
[So we have to say that Andy doesn't support]
And this AC does say this! Correct :)
I got E because it just seemed kind of obvious but I will admit I was stuck on C. I eliminated it because I thought "well you can't determine whether or not Country F's citizens will have ownership, so this means they could or couldn't which is pretty uncertain and not a definitive answer"
But now I can also see that "one of the highest offers" does not equal being the highest offer on the open market.
I thought E was obvious because it met the second requirement of ownership and the price reduction would virtually mean that it won't receive the highest price.
My statistics prof from sophomore year would be disappointed I got this wrong when it was so easy. SAMPLE BIAS!!!
Had it correct then changed it during timed conditions - what really gives it away is the "like lying" part. It's being compared against something. This is what the crux of the argument is where the author is trying to show that these two cases being compared can't draw the conclusion that is set forth
C timed but selected D in BR.
It clicked with me when I realized that the principle being stated was regarding the equal worth of people of different countries yet the conclusion jumped to stating that a nation's government should address the needs of their people. Hmm, what AC would explain this inconsistency? Going from stating that everyone is equally worthy but America should handle only Americans' concerns?
D. It basically says while everyone is equally important, it would be best for America to handle only American concerns.
C just completely misses the point in the second half it's not about which country has needs that are more important. This is also just completely wrong because it was never mentionedd
I thought this passage was easy but the questions were tricky, for #26 I encountered the same issue as JY but I went with A because I was so certain that it was correct.
A: I thought well, it was mentioned that "one cannot assume" so that must mean the author is uncertain with the question being posed. Wrong. If he has a stance as clear as this, "one CANNOT" then there is a position.
Vs. D: line 37-40, "may be" may is uncertain, it's not definitive. I'm upset with my score on this RC but I'm happy I'm learning the tricks with every passage along the way!
I was in the same position but no you don't need to worry about anything like this. As long as you have dual citizenship, you'll pay the "local" rate but obviously out of state residence fees. You wouldn't be subject to international fees.
I'm in my senior year of undergrad. My plan is to either wake up early and study before class/work or study in between breaks. Obviously, weekends will be dedicated to studying but I'm also making a point to throw in going to the gym in between it all! PM me if you want details :)
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Thanks for consolidating the new prompts! But how come these optional essays don't feel optional lol
"Optional" = do it anyways lmao
This is amazing!
Trust me, I know how you feel! The week before the exam I was having anxiety attacks, I couldn't sleep, I was trembling and worried all the time. It got to a point where I couldn't sleep at night and I STILL forced myself to study. It was hard to withdraw since I prepped so hard all summer but I'm so glad I did. I've taken almost a 2 week break and it's so much better to recognize your limits. If I sat in at that exam, I definitely would have pushed myself mentally and strained my well-being. You come first, the LSAT isn't going anywhere. Another 2 months won't do anything but refine and improve your studies. Go with the flow and take time for yourself. Studying is only part of the equation, your ability to be fully "there" and conquer the test takes mindset and your physical presence. We'll crush it! (3(/p)
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@ We got this!! I am, but I haven't registered yet. Have you? I'm not sure if a lot of test centers are already full, or if a lot of them didn't host a sitting this time, but most of the usually available centers in my area are now unavailable. :(
No LOL. I saw the test center around me is open but I'm thinking to do it soon.
Hi, I'm currently studying for the December LSAT (20-25 hours a week + a full course load + clubs and a sport). I've changed my studying habits from the first time around I was studying. I began in early May with the expectations of taking the September test. I only depended on the PowerScore Bibles (all 3) and I purchased two PrepTest books. I honestly didn't utilize the best techniques at first and in a strange way, luck was on my side. I got stuck in Irma back home and LSAC moved my test for free to any date. I wanted to take it in December because I wanted to get it over with and I didn't want to keep prolonging it. Anyways, with the whole stress of balancing everything and keeping up with assignments, exams, and papers. Sometimes I'm overwhelmed especially at this point towards the end of the term. I've changed my studying to taking 1-2 PrepTests a week under timed conditions at the library on the silent floor. I'm seeing gradual improvements with fluctuations. I always return to the questions I got wrong and the ones I got correct. For the ones I get wrong, I identify the type of question and I also make note of questions that I narrow the two possible answers and answers that I second guess and either select the wrong answer or I just change the answer completely.
I'm noticing this is my main problem. If I didn't second guess myself, I would score 165+. I'd just like to know if anyone else encounters this and what is the best way to overcome this? I also had this same issue with the SAT but that was so long ago I honestly forgot what it felt like. Timing is really not my problem at this point, it's more an issue of accuracy and self-trust. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
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Same, girl, same.
We got this! Are you looking at November?
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Thank you for your candor and sharing your story with us. I appreciate you taking the time to explain your decision to postpone, it has helped me with my decision as well. I've been a fairly silent 7Sager, but am realizing that my silence is not helping myself nor anyone else. As for you wanting to go to law school right after undergrad, I felt that way too. In fact I had totally given up on the idea of law school because I felt that my undergrad GPA was too low (3.49). It wasn't until my third year of teaching (I did Teach For America and have stayed in the classroom since my commitment) that one of my TFA friends decided to apply to law school with the same undergrad GPA as myself and inspired me to believe it wasn't too late. She is now a 2L at Columbia and is killing it. She is on the moot court team, worked for a Supreme Court of California judge this summer and is interviewing at top law firms in San Francisco. All of this is to say, she firmly believes that her confidence in law school is a result of her working post-undergrad and not going straight into law school. One thing is being ready for the LSAT and another is being ready for law school. Your law school journey will happen when you are ready for it. :)
Yes! I've become open to not going straight into law school as well. It took some time for me to allow myself to understand that there is no clear cut plan to life. I've started to apply for masters with attached scholarships (entirely funded) as a back up plan. I'm set on November but if it doesn't happen for Fall 2019 it'll happen some other time. Thank you for sharing this story (3(/p)
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I did the same thing-- twice! I was originally scheduled for February but I got a really bad concussion after Thanksgiving (hit my head 3 times) and couldn't start studying again until May. I forgot pretty much everything and restarted the CC. I was scheduled to test in September, but just withdrew. Since August 3rd, I have had a migraine every day. That being said, I've lost a lot of study time. However, I'm even questioning whether or not I should even test in November. I'm just starting to see how much potential I have if I continue to study. It may be worth it to delay... not sure yet!
It's okay girl. I remember you were also going through some stuff and you had issues sleeping like me. I withdrew officially a few days ago and I just moved back to Waterloo for my last year of uni so I've just had a hectic last week full of emotions. I'm glad I withdrew but it just bummed me out since I prepped so hard this summer but I think it's a good decision we both made. I'm sure we're gonna kill it! I can feel my BR going up and learning more so I'm confident I'll do better in November than I would have tomorrow. I'll see you on the BR November group? (3(/p)
I've noticed the past few days it's impossible for me to sleep early. I can shower and throw myself into bed at 9pm but I just can't fall asleep. It's really frustrating to experience the whole "my eyes are shut but I'm still awake and I know I'm still awake because I can hear myself think" situation. I put my phone away and stay away from my computer before going to bed but still nothing! I know it's definitely the anxiety of the exam being a month away and I'm just wondering if anyone has tips on overcoming this?
I don't like melatonin because the times I've used it, I find myself groggy in the mornings and my brain just can't connect anything. It's becoming an issue because I'm trying to get myself into the habit of being up early and studying. I took a PT today and I found it hard to focus and my mind was just really foggy. Idk how to explain it but I just felt weird? Lol, as I'm BRing I'm looking at the questions and I'm telling myself "ok how did you not read that word... how did you not understand this? This is something you wouldn't miss if you were more alert".
Oh also, I was coping with jet lag last week. I was in Thailand and when I came back I was falling asleep at 6pm and waking up at 4am LOL. It was great but then I had one night where I stayed up until 11pm and that threw everything off. I'm not trying to get to this extreme but after I broke the 6pm mark I was sleeping at 9pm and waking up at 6am. This is what I'm trying to aim for but like I said, it's just become difficult to sleep at all.
I'd appreciate any suggestions! I'm trying to refrain from taking anything to force myself to sleep such as Advil Pm etc.. I really want to keep it natural. I've heard suggestions of drinking chamomile tea, has that worked for any of you? Thanks in advance :)
Just beginning my fool-proofing process and I'm curious to know what everyone has done/ is doing! Debating between going in order from the different games I come across (for ex: simple sequencing examples then the problem sets then sequencing w/ a twist it's examples then its problem sets etc) or jumping around wherever I feel like.
Good luck to those testing next week!
I recently found out about the URM status and I was curious whether or not I qualify. I come from a mixed background (S/O to the mixed kids out there) where my father is Chinese Jamaican and my mother is from Thailand.
Thanks in advance!
PT on Saturday: BR, FP
BR PT, FP Sunday
Monday: Drill section(s), BR, FP
Tuesday: Drill section(s), BR, FP
Wednesday: OFF
Thursday: Drill section(s), BR, FP
Friday: Drill section(s), BR, FP
Going from strengthening LG, to maximizing my points in RC, to scraping up extra points in LR alternating every day. I'm planning to have LG intense days and FP one game a day.
I think from September-October I might do 1 PT every 2 weeks and then October- November do 1 PT every week. I went through 7 PTs prepping for September so I'm just figuring out which PTs I want to use.
So I took PT 38 on Monday after taking a break for a week and getting back into the groove... I know it's not a huge improvement but I'm trying to celebrate small victories to help myself stay positive.
I had an 8 point jump from my diagnostic! I still have a lot of work to do before I hit my target score and BR goal but celebrating small victories has really improved my attitude. If I'm honest, the day before I took the PT, I was feeling so stressed and began losing my confidence in my abilities. I cried for a good hour then I told myself that I need to get myself together and do what I need to do. I'm happy with myself to see the strategies I've adopted for my second try is paying off and I hope everyone sees improvements as they progress in their studies (3(/p)
I’m currently using the Premium pack and I was wondering if I should practice the older tests (37-58) first then use the newer ones (72-81) closer to the exam or vice versa? I obviously won’t go through all of them so I’m also trying to decide which specific tests I should use for PTing then keeping the extras for fool-proofing and experimentals.
Thanks!!
Hi all! I want to start drilling LR sections (it's my weakest section) before I begin PTing in the next week or so. This is mainly to brush up on question types that I'm having trouble with and to shift from drilling problem sets by question types to taking a shot at testing out my skills on all of the various question types that can be found on the exam.
I started this section before using 7Sage getting 14 correct on average. Now, with the combination of drilling and the CC for any given problem set in total, I miss anywhere between 2 questions (min) to 8 questions (max) depending on the question type. I'm pretty proud of myself for this jump and how quickly I've grasped concepts that were previously so difficult for me to understand. I have tried the problem sets both timed and untimed, but for the time being I have stuck with untimed sessions to drill and understand my weaknesses. When I BR, I always end up selecting the correct answer either prior to the BR or when I change my answer. For those who BR consistently, do you think I should continue to BR untimed sections until I begin PTing, start BRing timed sections now, OR both (untimed for particular question types/ timed for full sections)?
Thanks in advance :)
I remember reading your posts and learning about how far you've come, congratulations! Super proud of you (3 I'm aiming to perfect LG and scrape up points in RC too :)(/p)
Flaw and Weaken for sure lol