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Hi all,

I submitted my FAFSA for law school months ago and I wanted to know if anyone knows when we'll hear back? I've been accepted to a couple of schools at the moment, but not all of them have given me merit-based scholarships and I would need to know how much the government is giving me, before I can safely financially commit to a school...

Hi all,

I've been studying since mid-May and I feel that I really need more study time. I'm not done with the CC of 7sage (I'm almost done--I'm at 60% and am skipping the Reading Comp sections for the moment (since I'm pretty good at reading comp) and will complete them before I take the November LSAT).

I am set to take the test this September 8th. Should I still take it and get the test jitters out or should I just delay taking the test until November? I plan on only testing in September and November so if I don't take the September LSAT, I will be relying 100% on the November test and that gives me anxiety just thinking about it. But scoring poorly on the September LSAT also gives me anxiety so really it's a "damned if you do and damned if you don't" emotional turmoil situation...

But, at the same time--I've only taken one diagnostic practice test and I'm quickly running out of time to study so I am pretty sure that I will not get the goal score I've been shooting for (160-165). I am planning on taking a practice test this weekend to gauge where I am and...idk I think that practice test will help me decide what I need to do but I would really appreciate any advice from people who are in the same situation/ experienced the same thing.

P.S. I am currently in the midst of a gap year before attending law school and I REALLY do not want to/ can't afford to take another gap year so there's really no way I can delay the test another year.

P.S.S. I think I will probably get a 155-ish test score when I take a practice test this weekend but idk yet.

Thank you all for taking the time to read this.

Happy Friday, ya'll

I've been thinking a lot about my personal statement and I've decided to talk about an experience that reaffirmed my commitment to justice and pursuing law but it might be a little controversial. Basically, I had an encounter with a retired cop and a lot of his stories were really glamorized stories of what was essentially police brutality and power trips. By no means do I want to come off as a police-hater. I have a lot of respect for law enforcement and I believe that good police officers carry out justice. In fact, I have a few police officers in my family.

It was just a really eye-opening experience and I think it might show my commitment and passion for law and justice.

Please let me know what you think.

Thanks!

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ayaladeziree615
Friday, Dec 28 2018

Thanks! I just wanted to make sure I had roughly 3 targets, 3 reaches, and 3 safeties. :)

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ayaladeziree615
Thursday, Feb 28 2019

I would shoot your shot lol. What do you have to lose??? Especially if you don't think you'll reapply down the road.

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ayaladeziree615
Monday, Nov 26 2018

@oshun1 said:

@ said:

@ said:

Can you paste a statement-of-purpose prompt here? Let's take a look at the actual language of the application.

Here are two examples of prompts that seem more purpose-focused:

"Please include a brief personal statement indicating your reasons for wanting to study law, why you chose to apply to Pepperdine Law, significant extracurricular activities, and any further information which you feel should be considered by the Admissions Committee."

"Please tell us specifically why you wish to attend law school, and in particular Santa Clara Law School. Feel free to include information about your special interests, life experiences, accomplishments, goals, or other information you believe would be helpful to the Admission Committee. Please limit your statement to no more than 3 pages, double-spaced."

"Please upload a brief statement indicating your reasons for wanting to study law, why you chose Chapman University School of Law, and any further information that you feel should be considered by the Admissions Committee. The personal statement must be no longer than three pages in length, typewritten, 12 point font, and double-spaced."

Thanks!

FWIW I applied to 2 of those schools last year and made no changes to my generic for all schools personal statement and I was accepted. I wrote about sports and it briefly touched on character traits that will make me a good attorney/why law toward the end.

Awesome! Did you write a narrative/ story-based personal statement?

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ayaladeziree615
Monday, Nov 26 2018

@ said:

Can you paste a statement-of-purpose prompt here? Let's take a look at the actual language of the application.

Here are two examples of prompts that seem more purpose-focused:

"Please include a brief personal statement indicating your reasons for wanting to study law, why you chose to apply to Pepperdine Law, significant extracurricular activities, and any further information which you feel should be considered by the Admissions Committee."

"Please tell us specifically why you wish to attend law school, and in particular Santa Clara Law School. Feel free to include information about your special interests, life experiences, accomplishments, goals, or other information you believe would be helpful to the Admission Committee. Please limit your statement to no more than 3 pages, double-spaced."

"Please upload a brief statement indicating your reasons for wanting to study law, why you chose Chapman University School of Law, and any further information that you feel should be considered by the Admissions Committee. The personal statement must be no longer than three pages in length, typewritten, 12 point font, and double-spaced."

Thanks!

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ayaladeziree615
Monday, Feb 25 2019

@ said:

@ sometimes I wish there were more DBs for us non-T14 dreamers. :smile:

same! :/ especially for the kids that aren't like omg wahhh I only got a 169 even though I was testing at 172. LOL. Shade intended haha.

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ayaladeziree615
Monday, Feb 25 2019

@ thought you might be interested in this thread. Stay hopeful!!!

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ayaladeziree615
Monday, Feb 25 2019

Fingers crossed that it's an acceptance! :)

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ayaladeziree615
Monday, Feb 25 2019

@ said:

So I just applied to some schools end January/early February, and I already heard back from one, and was accepted with some $$. I also had panic feelings about being "late" but this one school in particular was super fast in responding! I have to say it's not a T14, but I'm not looking for that, either. So there may be a difference in terms of where you have applied versus the responses you might get here.

YAY! Glad to hear you got in somewhere recently! I am also not looking for a T14 lol.

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Thursday, Jan 24 2019

ayaladeziree615

Account Expires Soon: Admissions Course Access?

Hi everyone,

My account is about to expire in a week. I am still working on my apps though so I would still want to access the 7sage Admissions Course that I am currently using. When my account expires, will I still have access to @"David.Busis" 's Admissions Course?

Thanks!

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ayaladeziree615
Friday, Feb 22 2019

I have started to visit some of the schools near me (within a two hour drive) even if I haven't received a WL/decision. I think it's worth it to wait if visiting the schools would require flights + hotels + PTO, etc. But, if not--I'd recommend driving out and visiting so that when you have to put down a deposit, you don't feel uninformed and rushed. Especially since I've heard that since we're late applicants (I submitted in mid-Feb), they're going to give us kinda late decisions (March and April as opposed to the kids that submitted in December who might've already received theirs)

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Friday, Feb 22 2019

ayaladeziree615

Late Applicant Anxiety

Hi all,

I submitted late (mid-Feb) and I was hoping some 7sagers could share their stories? Particularly their results.

Obviously there's nothing I can really change but it'd be nice to hear from people who were are currently in my situation or were late applicants in the past.

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Thursday, Feb 21 2019

ayaladeziree615

How long? Waiting for Decisions - Feb Applicant

Hi all,

I submitted my apps in mid-Feb (yes, I know--rather late but life happens) and I was wondering how long it takes to hear back from most schools? I've almost exclusively applied to CA schools (Santa Clara, Chapman, USD, Pepperdine, USC, etc.).

What was the average wait time for the schools you applied? 3 weeks?

Thanks!

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ayaladeziree615
Tuesday, Nov 20 2018

Hi @! Are there any examples of a "statement of purpose" personal statement? Some of the schools I am applying to want me to state why I am interested in applying to law school, how law school X will help me reach my professional goals, and ask me to "Feel free to include information about your special interests, life experiences, accomplishments, goals, or other information you believe would be helpful to the Admission Committee". Do I still write a narrative personal statement or do I write a concise, cut-to-the-chase "I want to be a DA" essay??

(Thanks in advance!)

Most of the essays you included seem to be narratives with a brief paragraph about how law school will help them take their passion or interest to the next level.

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Monday, Aug 20 2018

ayaladeziree615

My 3x3 Approach: Logic Game CC + Fool-Proofing

Hi all, here's my current approach:

  • I go through each logic game of one section of the CC (i.e. 1st section (Intro to Logic Games and Sequencing Games), 2nd section, etc.) and do each problem three times.
  • After completing the section, I do each logic game three more times to solidify my understanding.
  • Once I am done with all the sections, I plan to "start over" and see if I still know how to do the logic games by doing each one three times. If I struggle at all, I will "officially" fool proof each one until I feel that I have mastered it.
  • Please let me know what you guys think of this approach.

    Thank you. :)

    Hi everyone,

    I just checked my LSAC Academic Summary Report and I am very confused.

    The LSAC calculated my Degree Summary GPA as a 3.36 and my Cumulative GPA as a 3.41.

    In contrast, my university says my Cumulative GPA is a 3.36 and my Cumulative GPA for my major is a 3.56.

    Also: I received an F in a P/F GE course I took and it is not being reflected on my LSAC Academic Summary Report (which I REALLY don't mind because it would definitely pull down my LSAC GPA) but I'm just so confused--was it an error?

    I guess my question is: which GPA is the one that law schools use to decide whether to admit me or not?

    Furthermore, if a law school's average GPA is a 3.57/3.59 (i.e. UCI or UC Davis) and I have a 3.41 GPA, am I still considered a splitter? Will I still need to kill it/ overcompensate on my LSAT? (I'm an URM)

    @"David.Busis" I would really love to hear your insight.

    Thanks everyone.

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    PT127.S3.Q15
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    ayaladeziree615
    Sunday, Jan 20 2019

    "it may be even happening now" - JY talking about demagogues.

    Me: "Hmmmm....sounds like Trump. LOL."

    Hi all,

    I'm a little confused. I've been reading the forum and I don't think I fully understand how one goes about drilling timed sections or when one does so. Is this something to do after finishing the CC and in between full-length timed PTs? Also, which tests should I be using to drill? Do I use sections from practice tests I've already used? All over the forum people say to treat clean PTs as precious and only use them for timed, full-length LSAT practice so I have a feeling I shouldn't be pulling sections from my share of clean PTs.

    Also: I know the CC is composed of questions from PTs but I don't know which ones they use and whether I should be pulling from tests that were used to create the CC.

    Hopefully I'm making sense (?)

    THANKS

    Fight on!

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    Friday, Aug 17 2018

    ayaladeziree615

    Fool Proofing LGs - Can I throw them away?

    Hi all,

    I am currently drowning in papers because of all the fool proofing I've been doing. Once you finish fool proofing a section of games (i.e. all the "Introduction to Logic Games & Sequencing Games" logic games) do you throw them away? Do you keep them? What's the most efficient way to manage all this paper? I plan to return to the games I just fool proofed, once I'm done with the CC for Logic Games so I'll be returning to the ones I've already fool-proofed to make sure that what I've learned sticks.

    I've heard of people keeping track of their scores/ timing per logic game on excel but that seems a little unnecessary to me and I am not the best at Excel.

    I hope I made sense.

    Thanks!

    Hi everyone,

    I am planning on taking the September LSAT and possibly applying ED to UC Davis if I manage to get a 160 because 7sage's law school predictor suggests that with ED I would have a 66% chance of admission. However, I also plan on taking the LSAT in November and I believe I will at least get a 163. That said, if I get admitted ED will they have less incentive to offer me more financial aid/ scholarship money? Making sure that I get into a good school is important to me, but getting the funds to go to said good school is also extremely important to me.

    In summary: I don't want to apply ED if it might reduce my chances of getting a good financial package. Will it reduce my chances?

    Thank you all.

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    ayaladeziree615
    Thursday, Feb 14 2019

    A full-ride in the area that you plan to practice seems like the perfect choice (I voted for USC)

    I am sooooooo freakin jealoussssss

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    Thursday, Sep 13 2018

    ayaladeziree615

    Identifying as Native American and Latino/a

    Hi everyone,

    I identify predominantly as Latina (Mexican-American and Spanish) but I also identify somewhat as Native American because my father (whose family I do not know well because he passed away a long time ago) have a lot of Native American blood. Because I am not in touch with his side of the family, I wasn't even 100% sure that I was Native American until I did 23andme and it proved that I was nearly 40% Native American. I am still in the process of getting more in touch with my Native American heritage and thus, do not have the paperwork to prove that I am Native American or which tribe I'm from. And to be quite honest, even if I were to reconnect with my father's family, they would likely not have any paperwork or proof to assist me.

    The problem is: A school like UC Davis requires me to list which tribe I am part of and my Native American card number--all things I do not have. What should I do? Should I apply to other schools as Latina and Native American and just apply to UC Davis as Latina--or should I reach out to Admissions and explain my situation?

    I am planning on writing a diversity statement and now it feels like I'm in an odd place because I can't identify myself as Native American on one application even though I know I have more Native American blood than some people who have the paperwork to prove it (no offense meant here--but I have met people who are like 12% Native American and have all their paperwork and it feels frustrating that I can't "prove" myself).

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    ayaladeziree615
    Monday, Nov 12 2018

    One strategy I've considered is to apply to the schools I believe I will get in to with my current LSAT scores in December and then apply to the more out-of-reach schools in Feb with my January score...but once again that brings forth the question of: Is February too late in the cycle???

    Hi all,

    I am set to take the November LSAT this week but feel that I could do better if I took the January LSAT.

    Should I still submit my applications in December and inform schools of my pending January LSAT or wait until I get the results and apply in February? Some schools I've contacted will look at my application as-is even if I have a pending LSAT score and may render a decision before my January results come in.

    Is Feb. too late in the cycle???

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    Thursday, Jul 12 2018

    ayaladeziree615

    Parallel Method of Reasoning - Strugglin' #help

    Hi everyone,

    I am really struggling with Parallel Method of Reasoning Questions. I just finished the CC lessons on it and I feel like I still don't have them down in terms of timing and/or the method. I feel like I spend way too much time on them and I am considering skipping them when I see them on the real test so that I don't let them turn into a time-suck.

    Interestingly enough, on my diagnostic I got all 2 of the Parallel Method questions correct...so idk why these problem sets are such a struggle. It often feels as if I don't even understand what the stimulus is trying to tell me...like I get confused and stressed by these questions.

    Thoughts? Advice? Opinion on skipping these questions?

    Either way, I think I'll come back to these lessons in a couple of weeks when I feel like I've thoroughly forgotten them...

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    ayaladeziree615
    Friday, Apr 12 2019

    @ would love to hear your insight! I'm sure this is a unique, but not uncommon concern for other 7sagers!

    Hi all,

    I received a full-tuition scholarship from a 100+ ranked school that I have little intention of attending. However, I would like to continue leveraging this scholarship as I negotiate with other schools. I understand that May 15th is the "First Deposit Overlap Report" and I know that schools will see which offers I am still holding on to. Do you think it's necessary for me to put the 1st deposit ($300) on a school that I don't really want to attend in order to continue utilizing it as a tool for scholarship negotiation?

    I don't want to tell schools that I am "considering a full-tuition scholarship from X school" and request a scholarship offer "more in line with X school", only to have them be able to call my bluff on May 15th...

    Let me know what you all think!

    Thank you,

    LAWYERED

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    ayaladeziree615
    Sunday, Nov 11 2018

    @ said:

    Hi everyone,

    Accurate-ish is a good description. You should crosscheck our model with https://officialguide.lsac.org/release/ugpalsat/ugpalsat.aspx. In most cases, we're pretty similar.

    @ we looked at about 400000 applications from LSN, so the sample size isn't small, although it's far from perfect.

    @ we draw on the same data that mylsn.info draws on, although we have our own statistical model.

    In general, I think you should use the model to give you a sense of your odds, but you shouldn't take it literally. I have a feeling that it exaggerates the importance of applying early in the cycle or applying ED for below-median applicants.

    Our predictor isn't sophisticated enough to model this, but from an admissions officers’ perspective, ED is a great opportunity to lock in applicants with (1) median-supporting LSAT scores or GPAs, or (2) (less commonly) exceptional diversity. Because some applicants with LSAT scores or GPAs that hit the median will be rejected later in the cycle, we think that ED provides a significant tailwind to candidates who hit at least one of the numbers. (This may also be why our model sees such a strong effect from ED.) On the other hand, we expect that most candidates who have below-median LSAT scores and GPAs will be punted into the RD pool or (less commonly) rejected.

    Thanks! Is there any chance the predictor could be over-emphasizing the admissions advantage of being an URM? I am one and I was very surprised at the percentage difference between URM and non-URM.

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    ayaladeziree615
    Tuesday, Dec 11 2018

    Try looking for a litigation clerk job. Very entry level and good exposure to law but also not super busy; which has been useful because applying to law school is super time-consuming and exhausting lol.

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    ayaladeziree615
    Friday, Jan 11 2019

    Thanks!!! I will make sure that I keep that in mind.

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    Friday, Jan 11 2019

    ayaladeziree615

    Resume: Stylish or Plain?

    Hi all,

    Can my resume have style? The format I currently use is professional and clean but I was wondering if I should just make my resume super plain (like the example provided by 7sage's admissions course)? Is plain better? I want my resume to look eye-catching but I want to make sure that there's no risk of it downloading wrong or coming off as too much.

    Also, is it okay for me to save my finished PS, DS, and Resume as PDFs?

    Thank you,

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    ayaladeziree615
    Friday, Nov 09 2018

    WOW. This is exactly what I needed. Wow. THANK YOU.

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    ayaladeziree615
    Friday, Nov 09 2018

    @ said:

    I like the 7Sage predictor. Just remember, all statistical models break down when n=1.

    what do you mean?

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    ayaladeziree615
    Thursday, Nov 08 2018

    Wouldn't you be applying a little late in the cycle (January)? Isn't it better to apply with a November score and then apply in December (and let your schools know that you're testing again in January?)

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    ayaladeziree615
    Thursday, Feb 07 2019

    Don't worry I'm also sending my apps in Feb too! It happens! :/

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    Tuesday, Aug 07 2018

    ayaladeziree615

    Logic Games - Core Curriculum + Fool Proofing?

    Hi all,

    I am taking the September LSAT and I am not done with the Logic Game portion. As you can imagine, I am freaking out.

    But, anyways. How should I be approaching these lessons?

    Should I watch all the videos and do all the problem sets and then come back later to foolproof all the problem sets and questions I struggled with (which, is probably all of them at this point)?

    OR should I watch the videos and full proof the crap out of the sets I struggled with until I get it right and then continue to go through the CC, stopping to foolproof before moving on?

    Is Fool Proofing for after you're doing with the CC???

    Thank you.

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    Monday, Aug 06 2018

    ayaladeziree615

    Timeline? - Letters of Recommendation

    Hi everyone,

    I am taking the September and November LSATS and applying to law school this cycle. I have already asked my professors in person for LORs and they have agreed to write them for me. However, they are asking for an updated resume, a copy of my personal statement and at least two months to write. This would require that I finish writing my Personal Statement and send it to them by the end of September in order to give them two months' time (end of November).

    Do you recommend that I email them this month (August) to send them an updated resume, wish them a good summer and inform them that I am still working on my Personal statement but will send a preliminary copy of it to them before the end of September so that they have two months' time to submit my LORs by end of November?

    Or should I just gather the necessary pieces of my application together and email them at the end of September with all the necessary materials?

    I am planning on submitting my application in late November or early/mid December.

    Thank you.

    (Very stressed...lol)

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    ayaladeziree615
    Tuesday, Mar 05 2019

    Hi all, I just got accepted to a low ranking university in the bay area via email on March 1st (they told me that I'd be receiving my official letter via snail mail). Lmk when you guys hear back! I'm still waiting on the schools that I actually really want to go to...LOL

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    ayaladeziree615
    Friday, Jan 04 2019

    Thanks, everyone!

    I have decided to make the LSAT the priority but will be working on my applications concurrently and aim to submit them by the end of the month (or worst case scenario: the first week of Feb).

    I will request that my safeties review my app asap and will have the other schools hold off until the Jan score comes in.

    Can't thank @ and you all enough!!!

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    Wednesday, Jan 02 2019

    ayaladeziree615

    Pending LSAT: January or February Apps

    Hi all,

    Happy New Year!

    I am registered for the January LSAT and most of the schools I am applying to will not review my application until February (after my January LSAT results come in). Given that my application will be held by the school and not reviewed until February, will I boost my chances at all by submitting in January instead of February?

    Is it better to wait until I have my last LSAT score before submitting?

    I feel like I want to use my last month before the LSAT to prepare for the LSAT but I also don't want to damage my chances by submitting in Feb. when I could technically submit in January and spend some time finishing my essays (time I could perhaps better utilize on LSAT prep)

    Would love to hear if anyone else is in the same boat and would love to hear your opinion @"David.Busis" - I unfortunately, can't attend office hours because I'm in a different time zone and have work tomorrow...

    Thank you,

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