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Monday, Feb 29 2016

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[Test Center Review] UMD, College Park, MD

Proctors: Quiet and helpful. Allowed about 10 people in a row to go to the bathroom at the end of the writing section.

Facilities: Comfortable, fairly new building, well heated (during winter).

What kind of room: ~40 person classroom

How many in the room: ~35

Desks: Small, fold up lecture-style desks. They held the booklet, but not the answer sheet

Left-handed accommodation: Unsure

Noise levels: Quiet throughout

Parking: Parking garage is next door to the building. I believe it was $15 for the entire test center. You can pay using the Parkmobile app.

Time elapsed from arrival to test: 30 minutes

Irregularities or mishaps: None

Other comments:

Would you take the test here again? Yes, but would have preferred a DC area center with full desks.

Date[s] of Exam[s]: Dec. 2015

Proctors: Three per room. All were quiet and respectful. They announced 5 minute warnings and followed directions to a T.

Facilities: Well lit, clock in room, comfortable temperature.

What kind of room: ~50 person classroom

How many in the room: about 30

Desks: Small desks, only hold one sheet of paper. Each person had two desks--one for their booklet and one for extra pencils, ID, tissues, etc.

Noise levels: Quiet, aside from people dropping test booklets off of the small desks (happened about 10 times throughout)

Parking: Parking garage on campus; street parking is difficult

Time elapsed from arrival to test: about 40 minutes

Irregularities or mishaps: None

Would you take the test here again? Yes, but I would still have preferred to find a DC center with full-sized desks.

Date[s] of Exam[s]: Oct 2015

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breephilips301
Friday, Jan 23 2015

Wooo! Thanks!

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breephilips301
Monday, Dec 15 2014

I used the LR bible and LG bible before using 7sage, but I can't speak to the RC bible. I finished LR feeling like I gained absolutely nothing. I 100% would not recommend it. Not only is it poorly organized and unclear, as Jonathan said, it also missed some big points. I felt like it didn't go in-depth enough. It's suitable for someone looking to hit 165ish (that's being generous), but for anyone wanting a score above 165 it's not worthwhile. The LG bible was better, but I think that explanations could have been clearer and more in-depth. I've used a few other LG resources (Testmasters, the Trainer) and still feel that 7sage is superior for LG.

TL;DR: Don't get the bibles.

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Thursday, Dec 11 2014

@ You can complete however many you feel comfortable doing daily. There's a study schedule function (under Course) that you could take a look at for guidance.

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Thursday, Dec 11 2014

I actually really liked my TM instructor, but didn't like a lot of the TM-specific methods. For example, I didn't like that MSS was considered a Strengthen question. I think the somewhat arbitrary assignment of numbers to types is unnecessary. I considered a Weaken question to be a Weaken question not a type __ (I finished the course a couple weeks ago and don't even remember it). I also personally disagree with a lot of the lawsuits that Robin brings against other prep companies or his backing of lawsuits against prep companies, but that's another issue not related to the actual value of the course.

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Thursday, Dec 11 2014

I agree that the difference in level of difficulty is very small. I think if you have a lot of time to do PTs (if you're taking in June or later) it's probably best to leave the more recent ones for closer to the test. If you're taking in Feb, then you should ignore 40s and focus on 50s/60s/70s.

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Thursday, Dec 11 2014

@ Yeah, BRing the next day is fine. I usually give myself a few hours after I PT to do nothing LSAT-related and then go into the PT later that day and into the next day. I rarely PT and BR in one full day. I think coming at it with a fresh mind is helpful.

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breephilips301
Tuesday, Dec 09 2014

Nope. If I recall correctly you have to save, open, and print all individually. (Definitely save these to your computer, because I think the links expire in like 3 days, right?)

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Tuesday, Dec 09 2014

Yeah, not a big TM fan. I can see where it would help someone scoring really low, but I disagree with a lot of their methods.

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Tuesday, Dec 09 2014

I would suggest the drilling PDFs rather than the books. I've definitely reused some of the drills (especially games). I also plan to reprint some of the questions I answered incorrectly the first time around. Yes, there's a printing cost associated, but I still think it's more valuable to have the PDFs and the ability to redo drills.

I would also suggest buying all three sections of drills. I've found LR, LG, and RC to be equally useful.

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Monday, Dec 08 2014

@. Oh, sorry I meant -12/-13. As in I've heard people say they think it will be either -12 or -13.

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Monday, Dec 08 2014

Yeah, Googling and word of mouth are how I determined which TC to choose and which ones to avoid. I think word of mouth is the most helpful.

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Monday, Dec 08 2014

I wouldn't cancel. Even if you weren't sick, you'd likely think you didn't do as well as you could have. Considering that most schools don't look at multiple scores, I wouldn't worry about cancelling. If you're looking at a school that averages, you could always write an addendum.

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Monday, Dec 08 2014

I've used this site, but there are only a few reviews and they're mostly old: http://www.simugator.com/lsat-test-site-rater.php

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Monday, Dec 08 2014

@ I would ignore the powerscore chart and just use the actual conversion chart provided with each PT, honestly.

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breephilips301
Monday, Dec 08 2014

Are you looking at the score conversion chart for each test, or assuming that a 68 always equals a 156 based off of one test you did? I would take a look at these conversion charts: http://www.cambridgelsat.com/resources/data/consolidated-score-conversion-charts/

It's usually a difference of 1-2 raw points between each scaled point.

edit: It looks like a 68 is a 156 for PT 68 and a 157 for PT 69 and 70.

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breephilips301
Monday, Dec 08 2014

@. Here are the sections with broad subject matter:

LR1: Hans purple/ancient column construction

LR2: Doves in orchards/melatonin

RC: Perfume/lawyers "stealing thunder"/free will/Mexican American politics

LG: Musical instruments/lectures & oil, lithography, etc./rug thread colors/photos at school ceremony

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breephilips301
Monday, Dec 08 2014

I use the older PTs for drills. You can buy them through Cambridge as questions divided by type. It's best to use 1-38 as drills to perfect your skills with those question types and use PT 39-current as actual PTs. Also, when PTing, you should spend more time doing BR than you do actually PTing, especially in the beginning. 7sage has a great explanation of how to BR

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breephilips301
Monday, Dec 08 2014

I agree with @. I usually circle a couple words that make the question incorrect or if I'm really struggling between two answers I'll write out a short sentence as to why I think it's right/wrong.

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Monday, Dec 08 2014

@ If that's the case, then you definitely need to go back to basics. Take a look at what question types you're missing and review the lessons for those types and redo some drills. If you can't do the questions untimed, you definitely will have trouble doing them timed. Also, even after you BR, go back and determine WHY every incorrect AC is incorrect and why the correct AC is the correct one. Sometimes I'll even write a couple words or circle words within the AC as to why it's wrong. Knowing how something tricked you (i.e., the AC you chose was sufficient, but you were looking for necessary) will help you in the long run.

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breephilips301
Monday, Dec 08 2014

It'll still count as a "strike." They'll give you the option to cancel and then retake it later, but that cancel will still show up and count as a try. If you do need to take it 4 times, I believe you could appeal it as counting, though. Either way, you can write an addendum or just not worry about it when applying.

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breephilips301
Monday, Dec 08 2014

I think it depends n the person. I hate exp RC, too. But exp LR also wears me out. I basically only want an exp LG haha

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breephilips301
Monday, Dec 08 2014

That really sucks and I can only imagine that it made you anxious the rest of the test; definitely not a good way to start off. I'm not sure about technical proctor rules. I did some quick Googling and nothing really came up. According to the LSAC problems/complaints page (http://www.lsac.org/jd/lsat/policies/test-center-problem-policies) they are not responsible for anything outside of their control. However, I'd say that this was within their control and is worth a complaint. The proctor should have done their job from the beginning or waited until the break/end of the test to fix the mistake. Sorry this happened :(

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breephilips301
Monday, Dec 08 2014

@ definitely contact LSAC about hand scoring. It's only like $10 and definitely worth it. A scantron reader will pick up any mark and it could affect your score.

Edit: It's actually $45. More info here: http://www.lsac.org/jd/lsat/handscoring

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breephilips301
Monday, Dec 08 2014

If money isn't an issue it would be easier. It's not super expensive to purchase just the drills. If you do, get the PDFs so that you can reuse them if need be. It seems like it would be difficult to do drills from the PT, so I'd say it's worth the investment, but I do know people who've only gotten PTs and used those to drill.

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Monday, Dec 08 2014

If you go over to TLS (LSAT Prep forum->December Waiters Thread), they've figured out which sections were real and which were exp based on what others had. I'm not sure how strict 7sage is with mentioning broad topics, so I won't list those sections here.

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