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brookegojazz136
Monday, May 31 2021

I'd wait! I've taken the exam before I was where I needed to be and if you're not in a rush, waiting is better. I've found this exam is not one where most people magically score a ton above their average. It's possible, but unlikely. It sucks, but it's worth it.

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Wednesday, Mar 31 2021

I have a macbook air and this was helpful to clear up ram space too :)

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Sunday, May 30 2021

When I got to this point it was about learning to implement strategy!

I'd first ask, are you utilizing a skipping strategy in LR? That's a great place to start if you aren't!

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Monday, Mar 29 2021

Thanks @ !!

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Friday, Jan 28 2022

I did! I had a hiccup tech wise in the October exam that I didn't think warranted a whole new exam at the time. In December, upon recommendation from a law school advisor, I wrote a succinct, solid argument for why even a 1-2 minute interruption could impact my score and warranted another take. I wasn't sure how likely an appeal would be but was pleased with how quickly LSAC got back with me and that I was approved for a 6th attempt. Good luck! My advice is shoot your shot, it will be an automatic no unless you try!

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Saturday, Mar 27 2021

This podcast came out last summer/fall and I found it super helpful. I have a lower uGPA and a higher master's GPA and was worried about the same thing. For this podcast at least, they mentioned that trends are important so even if you struggled at the beginning of your undergrad, if the trend is upward, including through your master's, that matters, and can help.

https://soundcloud.com/yaleuniversity/sets/navigating-law-school

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brookegojazz136
Friday, Feb 26 2021

This helped me a ton, thank you for this!

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Tuesday, Feb 23 2021

Honestly it partly depends on your goals, but I'd give yourself as much time as you can, even if that means delaying a year. I work full time and am a parent and the LSAT is a tough one! The LSAT is a really tricky test because it's testing skills and comprehension, not content knowledge. Once I took the time pressure off myself of meeting a certain score by a certain date, things got better. I listened to advice on 7sage that I didn't want to, which was that it's better to get your PTs and test abilities to where you want and then sign up than it is to try and make your test score fit a certain date.

You can do this! It's tough to work full time and study, but you've got this! I've seen massive improvement in where I was to where I am, all thanks to 7sage.

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brookegojazz136
Tuesday, Mar 23 2021

Hey! I'm not an expert/tutor either but am currently scoring around 170 and would love to help. It'd help me too! I'm trying to tighten up a bit and make improvements and I think the next level is going to come partially through teaching others. Feel free to message me, I have been there!

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brookegojazz136
Tuesday, Jun 22 2021

Hey there!

Don’t give up! The LSAT truly is learnable, but it’s not like many other tests and subjects. I think the best (and perhaps most annoying 😂) advice I got was to take the test when I was truly ready. I thought I could be ready for this test after 3 months…. I am now at 2 years of studying and finally scoring where I need to! I started at a 152 diagnostic and am now consistently scoring in the 170s. I don’t think it has to take two years (I’m a parent and work full time as a teacher in the pandemic so it’s been a long road for me), but it does take consistent time and practice. Don’t give up, you can do it! And reach out to me if you need help, for real!

You can do this.

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Wednesday, May 19 2021

Send me a message! "Foolproofing" isn't a method that super helped me in the long run, but my tutor helped me find a method that doesn't rely on inferences and memorization techniques. For me, it's been about a method that is more foolproof, instead of foolproofing the games, if that makes sense. It revolves around how to represent rules instead of inferences I may or may not see and also addresses small errors, anxiety/weird games, etc. It's helped A TON! I'm not perfect but as long as I stick to the method I am pretty consistently -1 on LG (down from about -4/-6 and where I was stuck for about a year unless I just did games incessantly.

***Also, I agree with what is said above. You need a SOLID SOLID grasp of conditional logic/basic game boards as well! That will bridge a lot of gaps, but sounds like you might already be there :)

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brookegojazz136
Friday, Feb 19 2021

@ said:

No, I am speaking about the test sets that 7Sage gives you. I'm going to go back to the basics and just turn off the timer for a little while, but at what point do you have to just go with your gut on a question and move on in order to get to more games and have time for their setups as well. Generally, I am only missing one question in a game set. I haven't had sweeping issues throughout.

Are you "trying out" each answer choice on most questions? Meaning you're doing an individual setup for each A.C.? That's where the setup often becomes invaluable because you don't__ have to try out each answer choice on each question, your game boards are built for speed AND accuracy. This means you'll take more time upfront writing rules and representing rules and boards, and getting a hang of how that particular game works, but you can get through many questions in less than 30 seconds. There will still be questions you need to write out, particularly if they give you a variable that goes a certain way, but even then it's more just plugging it in and scanning for an answer.

It might be good practice to see if you can find different ways to represent the rules on your game board as much as possible/eliminate rules off your rule list. Feel free to reach out if you have questions! I was pretty inaccurate and slow at games for a while and have worked hard to get to a place where I'm always -2 every section, under time, and consistently -1/-0 as well.

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brookegojazz136
Monday, Oct 18 2021

@ said:

Okay I recall some details on my LR sections:

26 LR: Disease incidence in mountain and lowland oppossums, mayor using offensive terms, iron vs rock meteorites, stone tools.

25 LR: Fruit juice with added colors, moral culpability during lucid dreaming, moral behavior and severe harm.

Some other questions that I remember but don't recall which sections: firing employees at a news station to save costs, paleolithic fishing/agriculture.

If you had a single lr, please @ if any of these ring a bell. If you had dubs and both ring a bell, please lmk what topics went to which sections and if you can recall any others.

Pretty sure I had both these LR (LG, LR, LR, RC order) I took Saturday afternoon (miraculously apparently because so many people couldn't). I also had the mali/paternalism RC that people are talking about. I can't remember much from the sections but the ? topics you said rang a bell, especially the iron/rock meteorite one.

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brookegojazz136
Tuesday, Aug 17 2021

I work FT (h.s. teacher) and have a kid. I started studying in summer 2019 and finally reached my goal scores consistently this past summer. So it took 2 years and about 10-25 hours of studying a week, depending on how much time I had. I went from 151 (diagnostic)-176 (best, avg. 172/3) in that time.

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brookegojazz136
Wednesday, Mar 17 2021

I'd set a routine now and follow that routine! Routine can help keep nerves calm. For me, I exercise for about 30 minute (I'm a runner so running is what I do), eat a good breakfast, decompress for a bit (I like to watch something funny for about 15 minutes), and then do a warmup routine. For me and for test day that will be doing a LG I like that's easy, reviewing 3-4 LR ?s I like that are also easy, and reading a paragraph or two of an RC passage (no ?S) though. Whatever helps get your mind and body ready for the LSAT is a great way to go, and consistency helps. I tend to be overly nervous so I have to find things that actually get my adrenaline down a bit.

I have heard other people that like to meditate, go for walks, drink coffee, go for a drive, whatever helps you get in a good headspace. Just try and set up that routine as best you can now and practice it in the coming weeks with PTs to see what helps you!

**Also, for that week, try and keep routine as well. If I've learned anything about the LSAT it's that cramming does not work, ha ha. So try and find ways to keep fresh without cramming new information in or learning everything in a week. For me that will look like taking a full PT the saturday before and then spending an hour or so each day the week of reviewing and practicing. Some people recommend even taking the full day or two before your test off of studying completely. Again, practice now and see what works best or follow the pattern that's worked for you in the past.

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brookegojazz136
Tuesday, Apr 13 2021

What ^^^ said! Take a break!!!

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Friday, Aug 13 2021

Hey! You've got this, the test is truly learnable! I started at a 151 and am consistently 170+ now.

Here's my advice:

-Don't set a timetable for when you'll be able to test or what you "should" be able to do by now. It's taken me 2 years and a lot of work (I also work full time and am a parent). But basically, patience and time are things you need to learn this test. It might not take you 2 years, but it might take longer than you like.

-Be solid, solid, solid on the core curriculum. Once you've got that down pat, your score will likely start jumping into the high 150s, low 160s under timed conditions.

-Don't burn through material too quick. PT-ing when you're still in the same place might not get you as great of a place as you think, especially if you don't blind review it. Take your time and make sure you blind review your tests. That way you can identify if it's a content/LSAT gap or more of a testing/timing gap.

-Once you've got a really good grasp on fundamentals, reach out to others. I joined a few study groups with people who were in the same range and a bit higher than me and group studying helped me get into the solid mid-160s. After that I really needed a tutor. I would not have gotten into the 170s without a tutor helping me with testing strategy and seeing gaps I couldn't see for myself.

-Have fun and keep living your life! At the end of the day, while it's an important test, it is truly just a test. If you want to go to law school, you'll be able to! If you want to get a great score, you can! It takes time and effort yes, but don't forget to be a human and have fun and take care of yourself. Rejuvenate, take a day off every week from studying, and be kind to yourself. Get sleep, keep your friendships, and do fun things too.

You've got this! Feel free to reach out if you have any other questions.

Hey all!

I am looking for a small group to do full PTs and BR before the Fall LSAT. I'm signed up for August but realistically will probably not take until at least the October/November exam.

I'm hoping to do a study group a few times a week and as our state is opening up/going back to work, later evenings MST (like 8 PM MST) would be ideal. I've got a great group that does LR/RC together but unfortunately the time difference makes it tricky for where I'm at, so being in PST/MST or with a flexible schedule to meet at that time/later in the evening would be ideal. I'm hoping for someone ready to take a lot more PTs, scoring around/above the mid 160s, and can be consistent.

If you're interested, send me a message!

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brookegojazz136
Saturday, Sep 11 2021

Hey Jon! I am in the exact same boat. I'd love to study a bit for October. Feel free to message me :)

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Saturday, Oct 09 2021

Grateful I was able to take today. Sorry for those who had issues!

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Thursday, Sep 09 2021

Been there! I would say the major aspect of improving from high 160s to low 170s is SUPER disciplined strategy as well as improving accuracy on those challenging questions. If you haven't implemented strict skipping as well as explicit procedures on what to do in round 2, 3, down to 50/50, etc. I'd start there! Feel free to reach out to me if you need help with this process.

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brookegojazz136
Thursday, Apr 08 2021

Blue light glasses have helped a bit for me!

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Sunday, Mar 07 2021

Yup! That's how I diagrammed it

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brookegojazz136
Monday, Jul 05 2021

I would recommend a tutor as well! They can help get you over that last hump. Sounds like you've got a great foundation and need some help tweaking pieces of test day/even strategy. I utilized a 7sage tutor and highly recommend! If you can't afford a tutor, look and see if you can find a BR partner/group, that could help too!

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brookegojazz136
Monday, Jul 05 2021

30 here, working full time/been in a career for 8 years, been studying the LSAT for 2 years and hoping to enter LS in Fall '22. You can do this. Age is just a number, don't let your own limitations on yourself set you back. You've got this, and know there are lots of others out there like you :)

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brookegojazz136
Sunday, Apr 04 2021

Hey! I’m so sorry things are tough. The LSAT has lots of ups and downs and it sounds like you’re in a down. If it helps, I have been at this for 2 years. I started at a 150 and am now at a 170. It has been HARD. I am a parent and work full time. But if I can do it, you can do it! I’m not anything special and the LSAT is learnable, it is challenging though!

I love what some people have mentioned above! Taking a break for a bit is a good thing for sure. It’s not worth sacrificing your well being and mental health, so take care of yourself!

Having a community and those I’ve met on 7sage has not only helped me get better at the LSAT, but picked me up when I was discouraged, had slid back, or didn’t know where the next step was. I’d be happy to help! If you need someone to chat with or figure out next steps, don’t hesitate to message me. Hang in there!

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