Yea definitely! Firstly, that’s already an impressive score and doubling with school cannot be easy! I would say next step is to solidify the fundamentals, even though your score is high, you could get stuck easily without a core foundation. Either way, I think 170+ is totally attainable

if anyone else is taking the June test and then done for a while, that is the best time to come visit Alaska!I cannot wait to get back to training for the mountain races this summer, go flying, I definitely want to pick back up with sign language haha I started learning it a long while back but I just was given an awesome self-teaching book, ummm and I also just bought a pedal boat for 50$ so we'll take the maiden voyage as soon as the lake I live on thaws. if some crazy person does make it up here for a break-cation/ever, I love playing tour guide and you can pay me in stories but only as long as you're not a serial killer or something

oh hey @ !! sounds unreal, I always wanted to do trail crew but idk if I could keep up haha

anyway, @.rsn

that analogy is perfect, I haven't heard anything like that before but I'm going to try and keep that in mind! thank you!!

so basically the train does this:

trip 1 - P Q R S T w/3 stops

trip 2 - P Q R S T w/3 stops

trip 3 - P Q R S T w/3 stops

trip 4 - P Q R S T w/3 stops

trip 5 - P Q R S T w/3 stops

it stops at any given station at least once in any two consecutive trips meaning trip 1 and trip 2 have to share a stop

or

2 consecutive trips will have stops that together = P Q R S T

hit me with some questions, I cant remember them, but it will help me help you better

You betcha @

I’m pretty sure the test goes, section1, section 2, section 3, 15 minute break, then section 4

Your best bet is to take a PT with 3 sections and just add another section of which is weakest. Then you add practice in that section as well as stamina/mental discipline. When you need to take a PT to gauge your score average, replace the experimental section with one of the other two sections - that way your not destroying yourself and score with your weakest section but you’re still drilling it more

I second that strategy and yes, to reiterate: there is no penalty for wrong answers so you should neverrrr leave one blank. If time doesn’t allow you to fully work through every problem, you should at least mark an answer for the ones you didn’t get to. And - hopefully this doesn’t happen to anyone - when blindly guessing due to time constraints, assuming you haven’t really read the question enough to have an educated guess, you should always guess the same option every time to maximize probability of a right answer. For instance, your go-to guess option is always C, so if you guess 5 questions with C, the likelihood that one of those is correct increases based on obvious statistics of the limited options and the range of right answer choices test makers utilize.

Also, try to find a cut off rule or threshold for your skip strategy. And the cut off should be in terms of steps taken to solve the question. Say you get to a question that asks you to identify the flaw. Your process may be

1 - identify the conclusion

2 - identify the support

3 - decide what’s wrong in the support used and the conclusion reached, anticipate answer

4 - eliminate wrong answers

5 - confirm right answer

so you read the stimulus and you’re 45 seconds in, and say you get through to step 4 and you are in the answer choices at 1 minute in and you found 2 obvious wrong answers to eliminate, but you cannot eliminate nor confirm any other answer choice, so you naturally read the 3 remaining options again but more carefully, and now you’re 1:30 in and you feel the time so you panic for 10 seconds and then reread the 3 answer choices again but you’re not focused on the right stuff anymore so you may dive on an answer choice in desperation or you keep spinning your wheels and it’s now over 2 minutes on a relatively straight forward question type so you lost time in your bank for the longer questions like match the reasoning and all. Either way, you eventually finish this question but when you get to the next one, you’re not letting go of your answer choice, second guessing it, or feeling less confident and therefore detrimentally affecting the rest of your performance on remaining questions. Buuut if you make it a habit to let go after a certain step, you could say, at step 4, eliminate the 2 obvious wrong answers and you’re only a minute in. So then you confidently skip and crush the rest of the section then come back and with a fresh take, you only have 3 options left, you immediately spot the correct answer and you’re done with a total time on the question of 1:20!

And to piggy back on the previous comment, if you hit a question that is way tough and just not clicking, it’s easy to push yourself to guess right then because you don’t want to give up on a question or leave a blank till the end. But it pays off when you don’t force it, don’t eliminate or guess yet, and definitely don’t spin your wheels. Then when you come back to it, you are fresh and it’s a clean question so there’s no previous guessed answer choice to distract you and nothing to second guess or question your decision so you can actually focus on the question.

Woah sorry that’s a lot, hah but those were two pieces of advice I got early on and it reallyyy saved me so hopefully it all makes sense! Always do what works for you though and good luck!

Hey! If you are still unable to purchase it and still interested, let me know - if it’s feasible, I have a copy of the Loophole I could send your way! Wherever it is you are, I’m in Alaska and I’ve mailed effortlessly with some of Western and Eastern Europe - plus I get a discount with UPS and FedEx so it’s about the same price as standard AK shipping costs haha buuut just know, I did use the book for a bit so the first few chapters are a little highlighted/noted - though the content is still just as effectual and it’s in good condition. I only switched methods because I wasn’t fully committed to the Loophole, and I was stubborn to learn LR. anyway, I ended up working with a tutor instead so I still recommend the strategies and I too have heard many people swear by the Loophole so I need to pass it on!

on the real though with the whole test thing - I'm like a fish out of water.

sooo I barely took the math/science classes required for high school so never even chemistry or any test-required class of the more difficult side. so ended year 12 without needing to have taken a single test -- (except the AP exams which were really not hard for psych and US history)

so then when I was finally getting ready for undergrad, I needed Calc or whatever the next math level is, so I hired a tutor and tested out before even starting school. and thennnn because my major (BA double major Liberal Studies & Business Administration, Writing minor) and at a private/student-led school, I literally did not take one test in undergrad.

and then add in the part that I'm old as heck now since I had years in between high school - college and college - law school, I have not taken any sort of test in like 5000 years. sooo when I saw the LSAT, I was like okay Reading Comp, I'm banking on you cause you're what I really know - all I do is read and write, like this is my jam. and ended up just pooping the bed on RC.

even still, after studying since October, RC is the only thing keeping my score from moving above barelyyyyyy 165-170. I feel like I was actually able to figure out the test well-ish, and thus doing okay in LR now and been crushing LG. but RC is another story. And I'm assuming it's because it was the part of the test I knew well/did all the time. so I have these habits/reading style or whatever thought process and it's totally solid in my way of learning or whatever but it's not at all ideal for tests or especially this test and so it's killing me. honestly, I've been strugglingggg to even understand RC enough to think, okay this question is asking me to do blah blah and the right answer will look like blah blah. sooo I've been wondering if others have experiences similar and solutions/strategies that worked.

does that kinda make sense to what I'm thinking? like maybe I'm missing a fundamental part of RC type tests/or tests in general for that matter, that could maybe click things into place. when I really got LR, it kinda felt like that. anyywayy, RC also has so many variants with subject matter too, I thought yous guys may have many different approaches. also just super interested in you peoples MO for the LSAT since having come from a wide horizon of disciplines/ways of knowing

classic Hardee's - so are you saying we should sit on our front stoop with a newspaper and yell at kids that skateboard by, maybe throw em a "whippersnapper" and then lecture them about "back in my day" how everything we had to do, for some reason, required us to go up a hill both ways? I'm in.

Oh hey, sup! 😎 I also am getting ready for the career I have wanted all along - congrats kiddos!!

I’m from Anchorage/Girdwood, graduated high school in 2010, worked at a local brewery and as a ski coach/traveling ski bum mostly for about 8 years and eventually through college. Also worked summers as a commercial fisherman/deckhand in Prince William Sound, went to flight school for my PPL, traveled the world, and thennnnnn decided to go to college spring 2016. so I somehow cranked out a BA double major and graduated from Alaska Pacific University in 2018. Annnd then I played some more, traveled the world some more, and came home to Anchorage and said I’m ready.

It’s cool to see how we all, so different from each other as well as the typical law student, were still able to check the same boxes and learn the necessary skills and put in the work to get here - all while on a different path but perfect timeline. You guys are going to crush it!

and I guess it’s kinda cool? to be turning 30 on test day this coming August

sometimes, correct answers to identify the conclusion type questions will be a deduction ish of some sort as long as it 1. has support and does not support any other part of the stimulus and 2. is at least some way shape or form represented in the stimulus (maybe the contrapositive/weird wording/etc)

so if it says, Joe said that Betty eats too much cake but I never see her eat cake and she can't even bake and Betty's on a diet and blah blah blah. therefore, Joe is wrong.

the correct answer could be something like Betty eats not enough cake or an okay amount of cake.

because the main conclusion is just that Joe is wrong to say Betty eats too much cake = Betty does not eat too much cake = Betty eats normal amount or not enough cake. sorry, don't dig too deep into the details of my bad example but hopefully you see where I'm trying to go with that and someone please correct me if I'm totally off base

sooo without exact question, I think what you're thinking is okay. like if it says, we have to pick A or B and then a bunch of reasons we absolutely cannot pick A, it should be a right answer if it's like, "we can pick B."

oh right, thank you! I gotcha! hey you're always on the ball with the quick responses to our 7sage questions, I really appreciate it!

is that similar to whatsapp? can you use it on a computer or only a phone

oh okay, so if I'm using my account often, I should wait until its about to expire and then cancel so that I can just resubscribe shortly after it expires with my new card?

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I bet it was that @, always so helpful that one

and I definitely saved that post too! worked through some of those this weekend, got annoyed because I realized I ignored this section for a bit, but got the juices flowing! haha good lucK!

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preachhhh. I second that motion and this is me liking your comments twice

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@ I'm taking it Tuesday as well haha I was just thinking the same thing after reading through all this. my proctor U account was locked for some reason (only for about a day) and although I did want Tuesday, the time slots available were 7a-9a EST. which isn't horrible except for the fact that I live in Anchorage.... soo my test is at 3:20a AKDT. no jokeee... anyway, I was stressing about that too so just remember that you have absolutely no control over what test they give you so don't let it weigh on you! and focus on what you can control like resting and hydrating and looking through your notes one last time paying attention to your weaknesses. fresh air right before helps too! we got this!

but to everyone that already crushed it - congrats and thanks for all the helpful insights!

So glad I researched/wrote a 42 page thesis on a Mac book without ever having known this :neutral:

Jk, but I honestly don’t think so - check the list on LSAC haha my eraser marks are horrible so actually white out is not a bad idea

Only during prep tests from 1999

Wut is this control of the F you speak of? I’m techno challenged

Hey! If you’re still having trouble getting started, I would totally love to give you a quick low down on how to get a solid foundation and start each game off. Let me know if you wanna FaceTime or Skype, games are my jam and I love teaching them! I miss 0-1 in the section