So, I plan on applying this cycle. However, I've come to the realization that I haven't really connected with any of my professors. I've always gotten pretty good grades in college, but haven't ever really gone to my professors for help or just to talk in general. I understand I need a letter of recommendation from at least one of them. What should I do?
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Not that you need any more advice but... please please please POSTPONE.
Lol I could be wrong, but I'm getting the slight inclination that it is a better idea to postpone. Thanks for your input!! I was nervous to post to this forum because everyone seems so much further ahead of me but everyone has been very nice and helpful :smile:
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I think that you are right to postpone. Wasting a solid GPA on a less than stellar learnable test score seems like a shame. I have a GPA a couple tenths below yours and can tell you it feels a lot better to worry about that GPA holding me back than to think about the set of opportunities I'd have trying to hold my application up with my GPA.
I also think postponing is an opportunity to reevaluate your studying process and decide what's working and not working in what sections.
I started out pretty bad at the logic games and since I'm used to being a very solid test taker and good student I had never had to put in the months of solid prep that I have now to foolproofing to actually get close to decent at them. I was naturally pretty good at the other sections, but they can be improved on through the brutal grind of exposure and blind review as well. So don't make this September, December, or even this cycle the end all be all of your prep. If it takes a year, get that score.
With GPA's just below yours (mine) scholarship options to top 20 schools really start to open up with a score in the high 160's or low 170's as do Top 14 acceptances. For extra motivation try law school numbers calculator every once in a while. http://mylsn.info/m2671f/
Very insightful, thank you so much!
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Simple advice: postpone, study hard, get that 165+, reap the benefits
That's what I'm aiming for! Thank you!
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You really should wait. The higher score would be 100% worth it with your GPA. If you don't feel ready then you shouldn't rush in.
I agree, thank you!
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Postpone, postpone, postpone. I think an exception to the no-caps rule should be made for this. Whaddya say, @
Thanks for your input :smile:
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So, I signed up for the September LSAT and although I have been studying for a couple months, I know I won't be ready. I have a 3.8 GPA and right now am around a 157 LSAT score. I may increase it a little before the test, but I think it's time I make the decision to postpone until December. Do you guys think I'm making the right call on this? Just wanted some insight before making the final decision.
Thanks!
Yeah, I definitely think you're making the right call! If you want a 160, it's safe to take it once you're scoring at around a 165 or so. This way even if you have a bad day and nerves get to you, you'll still get a score you're happy with.
Good advice, thank you!
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I agree. I think many people on here are serial postponers, haha. You can definitely improve and solidly score in the 160s given enough prep.
Thanks for the encouragement!
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What is your goal score?
I'd be happy being over a 160, but I'd be realllly happy being over a 165.
Then yeah, I'd say postpone. Although some would say there's no point since you can take as many times as you want, but still, you should be as prepared as you can before you sit for the exam. You have a really great GPA, definitely aim as high as you can for the LSAT. So yes, I'd say postpone! :)
Thank you for your help!!
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What is your goal score?
I'd be happy being over a 160, but I'd be realllly happy being over a 165.
So, I signed up for the September LSAT and although I have been studying for a couple months, I know I won't be ready. I have a 3.8 GPA and right now am around a 157 LSAT score. I may increase it a little before the test, but I think it's time I make the decision to postpone until December. Do you guys think I'm making the right call on this? Just wanted some insight before making the final decision.
Thanks!
This sounds like a bubbling error. Either way, you know you are capable of scoring higher and sometimes set backs set the stage for amazing come backs! Best of luck to you!
I scored 2 points above my average. I think the curve did me a huge favor!!!
Actually, thank you for posting this. I'm at the front desk at work today and seeing that the scores were being released today had me so anxious that I could barely speak to our customers. Best of luck!
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You can always plead your case and say something like, this is my top choice of schools (though I wouldn't mention not applying elsewhere) and I would love to commit, but have to take finances into consideration. As I'm financing my education primarily through loans, it's a main priority of mine to to keep my indebtedness to a manageable level. If there was a possibility of increasing the scholarship amount, it would really help in making my final decision to commit to your school.
Etc Etc. Re-phrase to how it sounds natural to you. But let them know that you are ready to sign, just hesitating over finances. Throw in a couple reasons why you really want to attend there (like a LOCI) so they know you are serious. And as someone else mentioned, it wouldn't hurt to try sending out a couple applications to peer schools to see if you can get another offer.
Thank you for your well thought out response. I am thinking of applying to other schools, but at this point in the cycle I may just take your advice and try to write out a well thought letter and hope for the best!
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Something you can try to throw in to your plea is that you have to take living expenses into consideration and you were accepted into a school in an area with cheaper living expenses. Or you cannot afford to move out of where you live now bc the living expenses are cheaper where you live than at the school's area. I read that someone asked for a living expenses stipend in a school where he was above the 75th percentiles and he succesfully got it, I thought that was a great idea. I think it's odd that you only got a small scholly when you're so high in their rankings. Theyre probably just being stingy and hoping to make money off of people who don't think to ask for more.
I really appreciate your advice, seems like I don't have much to lose by asking!
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Go ahead and ask. I think you could:
Tell them you're unlikely to attend unless the scholarship offer is higher.
Some schools still have applications open. Apply to schools where you're likely to get a significant scholarship. Use those scholarships as leverage.
Thank you for your help, I am considering applying to other schools..
Hi everyone,
I haven't posted here in a very long time. I got accepted into my top choice/the school where I currently live (thank you 7 sage) and got a small scholarship offer. I'd like to try and negotiate for more money, but the problem is, I didn't apply anywhere else. I have nothing to compare my offer to. I figured if I didn't get in I'd sit out a cycle and try again. My numbers are both above the school's 75th percentiles. How should I go about asking? Should I even bother? Not sure if I'm posting this in the right forum, I'm sorry if I didn't!
Thanks!!
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I think it's really common that we neglect RC. As a result, I don't think it's a coincidence that it's commonly LSATer's worst section. Consistent improvement only came once I began treating RC like I had LR and LG --- learning the strategies, drilling, and reviewing a bunch. I also began writing out detailed explanations for each passage. I believe if you practice this enough that your brain will automatically do it when you're doing a timed PT.
Thank you for the advice, I think I was so used to doing well on this section that I neglected it and subconsciously did not take it seriously on the PT. I will definitely take this advice going forward and hope to see progress!
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Have you done new RC lessons which were added in July? They focus on low-res/high-res summaries. If you haven't, I highly recommend watching them.
I haven't, I will watch them. Thank you.
Hi everyone,
I just took a PT and feel kind of mixed about it. I have improved dramatically on LG, it used to be my worst section and now it's my best. I got kind of what I expected on LR. On RC, I missed 16! On all the tests I have taken before this, the most I ever missed was 7, but normally only miss 4 or 5. Looking at the exam, I missed 7 questions from a single passage all because I made some wrong assumptions and did not read it thoroughly enough. I guess my question is, should I treat this section as a major concern now? Is there anything any of you have done to improve your RC score? I hadn't focused on RC at all really because I always assumed I had it down and now I am kind of shaken. My school is offering a practice LSAT tomorrow morning which I will be taking, should I wait and see if I do better while paying more attention to the RC section?
Thanks for your help, I rarely write on here but seeing all of your posts and seeing how dedicated everyone on this site is really inspires me.
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I'm gonna be the grim reaper here but ... The last day you can post pone was the 22nd. You will just have to not sit for the exam.
Oh yeah, I knew about that going in. Not fun to throw money away, it probably would have benefitted me to come to this conclusion a bit sooner!