I agree that you should avoid this situation. I feel that it is a bit unprofessional for the other course to offer a 6pm test. In no way does offering a test that late simulate actual test conditions. I know that I would do poorly on a 6pm test and it would only serve to discourage me.

It would be in your best interest to call LSAC and the individual schools for clarification on this question. Every school may handle the situation differently.

"You might be a fantastic person and a hard worker, but that doesn't mean your reasoning capabilities are up to snuff."

This is exactly what I am talking about. Jonathan made an objective statement and someone injected subjectivity into it. The statement is not positive or negative unless you want it to be. Being a fantastic person doesn't necessarily mean that your logic skills are up to snuff. Fact, not judgement.

I read the wrong case for my Constitutional law class one day and the professor just happened to call on me. He spent the next 5 minutes blowing me up in front of the class for 'not taking this seriously!' He wasn't nearly as nice as Jonathan.

I do agree that J-Dub's second post was somewhat personal. But I think that is a good thing. @ does not sound like she is getting solid advice. Her prelaw advisor is flat out harmful to her future. I hope Jonathan's comments shock her into seeking out honest, quality advice.

I want every one who takes part in 7Sage to kick ass and take names on the LSAT and at law school. But, law school is professional school, not graduate school: it is for the big boys and girls. If you have a soft shell, you will get cracked. I apologize if my tone sounds cruel, it is not meant to be. I say these things for no other reason to help ya'all be more prepared.

I am glad Jonathan created the above posts. I have refrained from making several comments on this site as I didn't want to sound overly harsh. But I have been through the law school admissions process before. It is strict and unforgiving. Law school, even more so.

To be a competent and successful lawyer, you need to be critical and objective - honest with your client and yourself. Too many posts on this site reflect an inability to accept the reality of the situation: your LSAT and GPA make up the vast majority of admission criteria. The personal statement, resume, diversity statements, addenda, etc., only serve to separate you from others with the same numbers.

Everyone should work their ass off to get into the best school they can, or at least get the most scholarship money possible. But, a passion to get into a T14 school is not the same as a passion for legal practice itself. I don't score in the 170's - or even in the high 160's - and have set realistic goals for applying to schools. Hopefully I crushed the December LSAT and took the test of my life. Regardless of my score, I will move forward and make the best of it. I am the common denominator in all my failures and successes.

As someone who has spent a year in law school, I can confidently say that the LSAT is an excellent predictor of success in law school. The skill set necessary for success on the LSAT is the same skill set used as a law student.

Honestly, I am a bit baffled why a pre-law advisor would make such a comment. Law schools are the foremost experts on the predictive value of the LSAT. I feel they would be very unimpressed by someone telling them otherwise.

Other than academic fraud or a profanity laced personal statement, I think sharing your SAT scores with potential schools is is about as damaging a move as you could make. Claiming that the SAT is your true measure of success, will only show law schools a lack of maturity.

I just made some serious breakthroughs this week: RC passages are much clearer and I got much faster at logic games. All I can say is that repetition paid off, even though I thought I had reached my potential. Keep plugging away and don't get discouraged.

Also, I've found that ultra-focused studying can sometimes disrupt my instincts and intuition. I get so focused on the formal logic that I can't step back and see the big picture.

I used 3 watches. They were laid out in plain view during the entire testing process. There is nothing in the rules stating you cannot use more than one watch. I even called LSAC before I took the test and was told that 3 watches were fine.

Make sure you don't bring in a watch that ticks loudly. It WILL distract you and others around you.

I hope no one took my joking response seriously. If I wanted fee waivers I would just email the schools and ask. I seem to be a unique applicant, I am not surprised I haven't been offered any fee waivers. Funny though, last time I went through this process, I was still getting fee waiver offers from low tier schools well into the summer.

All I can say is that I crushed the writing section!

Schools will not evaluate an incomplete application package. You can submit an application prior to receiving your LSAT score, but the schools will not look at it until LSAC has sent them your score.

Honestly, you should set your goals a little broader in my opinion. You have no idea what life is going to throw at you in the next year and a half. Focus on 1. Bachelor's degree, 2. LSAT, 3. applying to law school and in that order. I agree that planning ahead is wise. Just don't try to create a rigid plan that you have to stick to. Be aware of deadlines and come up with a few scenarios for applying in the future. Plus, until you have an official LSAT score, or at least a solid idea of what your potential score range is, you will not know which schools are appropriate to apply to.

Unlike a job resume, there is no real limit to a law school resume. Put everything that is pertinent to you. The personal statement allows the application reviewer an opportunity to 'know you' in depth. The resume is more of a list of what you've accomplished in life.

Law schools care about their rankings, which are largely affected by the numbers, more than students do. They absolutely care more about a 175 than a 170.

Your law school resume should be more of a generic, work timeline. Normally a work resume is tailored to a specific job/field. Law schools want to see exactly what you've been up to as a person. Instead of highlighting skills, you are highlighting experience.

You should include any scholastic or community awards you've received or extracurriculars that stand out. But don't worry too much. Your resume is not going to make you or break you. It just helps the individual who reviews your application, likely a person with a JD and HR degree, get a better overall picture of you.

I'm going back to law school after withdrawing in 2011. I'll be 37 in 3 weeks. I could get hit by a bus tomorrow or live to be 102. Either way, I make today count.

My LSAT score expired last year. Other than that, everything else is still on file at LSAC.

Nice, I didn't know they had put up the correct test yet.

Monday?

My scores are above the 25% for most top schools and nobody has sent me anything. Why don't they love me!!!

I wonder if they just want some extra $$ from people they are likely to deny.

Thanks . . . I really needed a post like this today.

To be brutally honest, I doesn't seem likely to me that you will even get waitlisted with those numbers. Plus, the waitlist is far closer to a rejection than an acceptance. Coming straight from undergrad is going to hurt you, as law schools put a premium on life experience after undergrad - it is one of those 'soft factors' that really count. It looks like Wisconsin's deadline to apply is April 1 though. You still have time to apply if you take the Feb test and do better. If you wait until next year, you will have the opportunity to do some meaningful stuff that could pack your resume.

Feb 1st is the deadline for many of the schools I am applying to. If you're relying on your Feb score to get you into a better school, your options will be limited as the window to apply may have closed. If all the schools you are applying to have rolling admissions, then taking the February test may get you the score you desire.

@ is right on the mark when he says, "this is your future ur talking about". No one wants to sit around for another year stressing about getting into law school. But, if you don't think your Dec score is an accurate reflection of your potential, take the June test and apply earlier next year.

Waiting until next year can provide other advantages to getting into the school of your choice. You can spend the next 6 months or so doing something that will look awesome on a personal statement, resume, diversity statement, etc., such as volunteer work.

"The worst part is when I sit down to take a practice test, I instantly go into panic mode as soon as I start my watch. It's like every single strategy I learned goes right out the window."

I think you could have kept the post to just this concept. It sounds like you are psyching yourself out. This probably effects you during BR as well. Do you second guess yourself a lot during BR?

Also, I don't think any of the 'strategies' you learn from 7Sage are of any help if you don't have the 'Lawgic' concepts down pat. Are you comfortable enough with formal logic?

This site seems pretty accurate and simple to use.

http://www.lawschoolpredictor.com/wp-content/uploads/Law-School-Predictor-Full-Time-Programs.htm

Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you 7Sage.

Just woke up from a nap to find out that I took the test of my life!

LOVE . . . LOVE . . . LOVE to everyone at 7Sage!