My name is Daniel. I'm 23 and British, my fiance is American and I can't wait to immigrate there.

I have a ragdoll kitten named Winston and am spending almost every waking hour studying for the Feb exam. It's rough.

I have the same GPA! I have 3 years solid work experience and expecting around 162-5 in the January exam. I need to improve my Logic Games though, doing an 100 hour crash course on purely LG over the next 2 weeks before the exam. If i can get to -2 or -3, 165+ is very easily achievable.

As others mentioned, a 3.0 is not a "Great GPA" but it certainly is not a "Bad" GPA. Unless you're talking HYS or perhaps U of T in Canada, it won't trigger alarm bells when they review your application. It's a fair GPA, especially for a STEM degree and of course GPA is becoming increasingly insignificant. It's ridiculous to expect GPAs to be fairly and consistently reviewed to a central standard, there are just so many variables in each college that can impact it.

Smash over 160 on the LSAT in January and you'll get some good opportunities for this fall. I'd advice you to submit your application NOW though and request final review upon release of January scores. Most decisions for admission are made by the Spring so I fear the April LSAT will be too late for most decent schools.

Seems as though admissions are down this year too.... Hope ;-;

Do you think this means they'll be more receptive to a late application?

I did the exam in the UK. The proctors were talking SO much throughout the exam. It was awful, I had the RC about the nature of matter or something and then the evolution of bipedal humans.

Going to complain to LSAC about the test centre. It was impossible to read it because the proctors were having a conversation throughout the whole thing in the room next door

There will be a recession.

Honestly thinking of postponing to Fall 2021.

High chance the damage will peak in 2-3 years

Nasty question

Nasty question. Only got it because I assumed it was too easy and it must be a trap so I went with E

Evil question

you could get that down to -5 if you put in the work. You still have 9 days. That's plenty of time to do heavy LG drilling.

I'm in the same position. I get -10 or so usually but I see huge improvements each day. Last week I was -20.

You're gonna make me. Don't worry. Some people are able to go from -20 to -2 within mere days. As the above user mentioned, the foolproof method is designed to get you to perfect LG. unlike the other sections of the exam, there's a very finite number of possible questions they can ask. Master each genre and nothing in the exam will surprise you.

@ From what I've seen on MyLSN, some schools in the T50 will give out full scholarships well into summer for above median LSATs. There are 10 data examples of people applying to UIUC in March or past their deadline with a 160 plus LSAT and all got very nice scholarships.

T14, i would agree however is far too late in the cycle to hope for scholarship though. You'll get in if your numbers are good perhaps

Thank you for your replies. Its very encouraging. I'm happy with -5 on LR, after all I'm going for 165 not a 175.

I forgot to mention, i have 50 percent extra time for the exam because i am visually impaired, hopefully that will help too.

I'm kicking myself for not studying last year but i guess i still have one last crazy chance to pull this thing off.

I found it really tough. I have a demanding job and I was too tired every day to study. My weekends felt precious and I did not have the motivation to study during MOST weekends.

I studied during my annual leave. I work for the public sector so they are pretty generous with it. I worked for 6 months without any sick days/annual leave and then booked 21st December - 25th January off and devoted all that time to the LSAT.

I study 12 hours a day so its brutal but by the time I write the exam in a couple weeks I'll have clocked 300-400 hours. It's not totally efficient, by far, but it's working well for me. I'm 20 points above diagnostic. I need to master LG but they are pretty quick to learn so I'm feeling good.

You can take the LSAT as many times as you like, no harm in writing the exam and seeing what happens. Bigger question is whether to defer a year, January will be the last LSAT that you can apply with to most schools this cycle. One option you have is to write the January exam, if you get lower than you want, hope to be put on a waitlist (or accepted w/o Scholarships) and then write the March/June LSAT and tell the Law schools you applied for to pay up and boost your scholly or you'll take another offer from a rival school.

I really don't want to sound too negative but i think you really should consider waiting until next cycle. I'm in your position too, i messed up Feb lsat and cancelled by score.

Even if you managed to get into Layola Chicago, its a huge gamble. Look at how much you are paying to go there vs the employment prospects.

Wait another year if you can, get into the 160s and go to the university of IL in champagne. That's a great school. Or northwestern if you're feeling very brave and think you can crack 170 by September.

I think it depends on the shade of pink, Northwestern actively seeks a mature student body and they MAY interpret hot pink as a unprofessional/immature hair colour. It's not worth risking it, just dye back to pink after your interview?

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Note too that they've not cancelled it in Italy, where they are over 10k cases. I believe there is one test centre in Rome.

That's inconsistent with what they did in South Korea. Only one test center there too and they canceled it when it was under 5k back in late February.

I think it depends on the test centre location. I'm not sure where it Is in S.Korea but if it was in the hotspot I can see why they closed it. Rome was not hit by the virus, most of the damage was in the northern parts of Italy.

The US would need to reach like 50k cases before it's at the level of South Korea and I don't see that happening in 2 weeks. My prediction is March goes ahead as planned, maybe/hopefully April but I think May/June will be cancelled as that's when the virus will be peaking

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I wonder if law school application deadlines would be extended?

Its likely, though many deadlines are this month. Whilst it may be too late to formally extend many deadlines I expect they'll be slower with decisions well into the year. More spring/summer admits too I reckon

Note too that they've not cancelled it in Italy, where they are over 10k cases. I believe there is one test centre in Rome.

I would be amazed if they cancel the March exam in North America/Europe. It would be devastating for law students as the virus will get worse well into the summer. They'd cancel all exams up to June and the March corona climate would have looked relatively mild.

Unless there is a massive ratio of infections at the exam centre location then the exam should not be cancelled. At worst, close certain test centres but not a blanket cancellation.

Schools won't be closed long term and neither should test centres. Sensible precautions are all that is required.

Life can throw all kinds of random opportunities, you can have a goal to do something but in three years time you could be doing something totally different.

I cannot predict who could sponsor a H1b, but fundamentally if you are a top candidate for a job and it requires a JD or equivalent, to my knowledge an employer can submit a H1b request. The employer has to prove they have advertised the job to US citizens and that you were the one who could fill the role to the standard required. This may sound constrictive but if an employer wants you, they will word the application in the best possible way to get you in.

It could be public interest, it could be government work, it could be industry. I think if you get into middle-big law, the firms will be happy to submit the H1b as its just done through the inhouse legal team they have for such things. For smaller firms, it may be resource intensive and less likely.

I would not recommend law school for internationals if you're not in a school that places well into mid/big law. But even then, my neighbour here in the UK has a son who went to some lower tier law school in Georgia, somehow got a H1b, worked a few years there then came back to the UK to work for an American company using his JD.

As I'm sure you know, there is no shortage of law graduates in the US. So graduating from a mediocre school will add some difficulty to getting a employer to sponsor a H1b as you wont be too exception. But go to good school, get good grades and market yourself well and there will be plenty of reasons you'll be desirable to employers. Top students get MULTIPLE biglaw offers usually because they are the ones in high demand. Big law wants you if you're exceptional, and if you're exceptional it will not be too hard for an employer to convince the labour department or whatever its called that you are worth sponsoring for the h1b, even if its not biglaw.

The current administration seems to want to implement a point based immigration system and that seems to be the direction things are going, the current lottery system will be scrapped soon I imagine.

I would suggest speaking to the law schools you've applied for. They usually have a career services dept and many even fund roles for new graduates. Perhaps one of those roles could lead to a H1b?

Wish I could give you a concrete answer but fundamentally, present yourself well and you'll find a way to stay in the US.

Hello!

I'm British and going to the US for law school.

I have the same concerns.

I love the US but am always astounded by how broken the US immigration system is.

my plan A is to get a H1b from a law firm. It's no problem for the big firms to do this and the current administration has made it much easier for Post grad degree holders from US universities to get accepted in the US H1B lottery. its around a 75 percent chance of winning and you can often get two rolls if you secure an offer before graduation. I believe there are other ways to get a employer to sponsor you too. By the time you graduate there could be further improvements to the system. I believe the US is increasingly aware of the problems with the current system.

On a student visa, you have 4 years legally in the US. 3 for studies and 1 for OTE or whatever it is called.

You also have the option of marrying an American. It sounds profound but if you're starting Law school around age 26, you'll be around 30 when your student visa expires and that's a very common age for people to get married anyway. And as a lawyer, you'll be a good catch! but obviously, don't make that your primary goal.

Also, US firms can be international. There'll be some who will hire you and ship you to one of their international offices, perhaps in your home country. I know there are many firms in London that require American JDs.

another option is not going into law at all, if you go to a good law school and get top marks some grads get offers for investment banking and other things.

My final backup plan is moving to Canada. I have legal status there so I would just need to do a conversion course and then practice there.

but stepping back a bit, if you chase excellence and perform well in law school and do the networking, I'm confident you'll find some way to stay in the US.

Could a March LSAT well above a T2 Schools Medium be okay for Fall 2020 admission? I'm applying with a January score. Really freaking out as my PTs are still not where they need to be :(

Evil question. pure evil.

Lsatplaylist,

I am doing 100 Logic Games, upon completion i'm marking the ones where I made errors and doing them 10 times over, as per the fool proof method. I'm not looking for perfection but if I can get -5 on LG i'll be very happy. Just go to resources, problem sets and you can create your own LG lists.