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Saturday, Nov 26 2016

Fair enough - thanks for the help. Good luck on your apps, too - I think I saw in another of your comments that you're applying this cycle as well.

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Saturday, Nov 26 2016

So you're thinking they just mentioning full-time, part-time, and summer basically to say feel free to include whatever employment you think is important (no matter what or when it was)? They're not asking for comprehensive resume?

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Friday, Nov 25 2016

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Special Resume for Cornell Law

Cornell law's app says to include a resume that lists: "Work experience, including full-time, part-time, summer."

So this means I should have a longer resume for Cornell that includes pretty much every job I've had right? Sure, I won't include random jobs during high school, but can I go ahead and include the random summer job during college, and some other part-time jobs I've had? I hadn't included these initially due to getting my resume down to one page, but if Cornell wants it all, I'm happy to oblige.

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Monday, May 23 2016

Obviously we're all different, but I took the test last December after a couple months of studying and drank frequently during that time. Then, I took the test again in Feb, and I'd cut alcohol out completely for about a month or so before the second test, and did a bit worse. I blame most of that on burnout (had basically been studying LSAT for 4 or 5 months at that point - my PTs the last couple weeks all of sudden went down, which only compounded the burnout-related stress), but perhaps some of it has to do with changing things up.

Long story short - if you're doing well on your PTs and happen to drink sometimes, it's probably fine. Boozing and studying hungover isn't good, but in my experience, going sober for a few months isn't going to suddenly make your memory (or your LSAT ability) a lot better.

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davi2526713
Tuesday, Nov 22 2016

It's definitely on my personal statement - just wondered if it needed to also be on the resume. Thanks for the advice - unless I get instructed to specifically on an app, I'll leave it off my resume for now.

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Tuesday, Nov 22 2016

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LSAC# on Resume?

I read somewhere (TLS I think) that it was suggested to put your LSAC# on your resume for applications - is this a good idea? Would I just include it in my header? I could just delete my phone number and include my LSAC # instead.

I know I need a header with name, LSAC#, and title of essay for all the application essays, but I hadn't even thought of putting it on my resume. I hope it's not too big of a deal considering I have already submitted quite a few.

Any ideas either way?

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Wednesday, Oct 19 2016

Yeah, that makes sense. I certainly don't want to give the admissions reps more to do. Thanks for the info!

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Sunday, Sep 18 2016

1) I'm a 25 year old white male from North Carolina who graduated (with honors) with a BA in English from the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. My GPA is 3.55 and my highest LSAT is 172 (I took it three times and the scores were 166, 169, 172). Since graduating, I've worked in publishing and for nonprofits, mainly doing communications work, and now serve as an AmeriCorps VISTA for a homeless shelter for families.

2) My biggest worry is that my GPA, while decent, is not high enough to get into T14 schools. I think it should be okay for the lower tier of T14, but I'm worried that it will set me back quite a bit from the top 10 schools.

3) One idea is to focus on how my writing has prepared me for law school. I've had fiction and non-fiction published and always wanted to write novels, and even went to school for it (studying English and Creative Writing). I'm interested in discussing how my identity has changed from someone wanting to be a writer to someone wanting to be a lawyer (using the specific moment of getting a story published as the moment this shift, strangely enough, began), how this process involved me working in social justice and seeing legal/policy work as a better way to help others, and comparing the process of figuring out a story to figuring out policy problems.

Another idea would be discussing my work in nonprofits and AmeriCorps and how that's informed my policy/legal interests, but this is admittedly still a vague idea that I'm sure other essays will also cover. I would also go into my interest in the law and how I see it as a social fabric that affects all aspects and avenues of life, and being able to affect that fabric gives me the chance to both try to change things in many areas, and also be a versatile public servant.

4) First time attending.

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Tuesday, Oct 18 2016

davi2526713

Writing a "Why X School" addendum

Plenty of schools have an optional essay where you write why you want to attend that particular law school, but can you also just write an optional addendum essay explaining why you want to go to a certain school even if it's not mentioned.

I wrote down that UCLA mentioned applicants could write an optional essay on why they wanted to attend, but now that I'm looking at the application, I see that I've made that up. Still, I did some good research and have some compelling, specific reasons for wanting to go there - is it wise to just write up a short essay (2 paragraphs or so, or around 250 words) about why UCLA appeals to me and just submit it as a general addendum? Or are addendum's only supposed to be explanations for bad grades/bad LSAT scores?

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Sunday, Nov 13 2016

davi2526713

Context for Publications on Resume

Hey 7sagers,

I apparently have lots of questions about my resume, so I'm going to keep turning to you all for advice (although I better get to actually submitting these apps real soon)!

I have a couple publications to list on my resume. Do I simply just list the titles and where they were published, or is it appropriate to add context?

For example, right now I just have:

Published non-fiction "Environmental Article Title" in Interesting Magazine - 08/16

Published short story "Best Story Ever" in Great Fiction Anthology - 07/15

Is it appropriate to sort of say what either of those were about? I'm interested in giving some context for the article since I wrote about nonprofits, community organizing, and I'm trying to do public interest law. However, from the sample resumes I've seen, it looks like everyone just writes the Title of the Publication, where it was published in, and the date of publication.

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davi2526713
Saturday, Nov 12 2016

@.busis awesome, thanks so much for the help David.

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Tuesday, Oct 11 2016

1) 25 years old and graduated from college in 2013. I have a 3.55 GPA and a 173 LSAT (albeit with a couple slightly lower scores in the 160s). I've mainly been doing nonprofit work since graduating, but also worked at a publishing company and have done some freelance writing (I went to school for English/Creative Writing).

2) My biggest worry at this point is my personal statement - it certainly needs some work. I'm also wondering if I've already missed my best chance at getting into a great school since I haven't applied as early as possible. Is getting my application in during early November or before Thanksgiving still going to give me a good chance?

3) My first idea is to talk about how pursuing writing has prepared me to be a successful lawyer/legal student. Growing up wanting to write books, and going to school for it, is one of the most unique things about me, and so exploring how that perspective and the successes and failures of that have led me to law and prepared me for law is my main idea for a personal statement. Obviously I need to be a bit more specific and have more of a specific "story" to convey those ideas, though, but if I can pinpoint the moment when I really changed my goals from being a writer to being a lawyer, that would be a strong personal statement.

My second idea is to talk about my current AmeriCorps job at a homeless shelter. I don't want to have a cliche essay about seeing injustice or poverty and going to law to school to fix it, but instead to talk about how overwhelmed I was when I first started. I was managing projects and volunteers and had a lot more authority than I expected, and so there was a significant learning curve. Gaining experience, keeping my head above water, and getting to the point now where I'm managing lots of projects at once and using that to help people could make a good essay. Structure-wise, it could almost resemble the "Tourne" essay (specify a problem I faced, talk about my plan to overcome it, discuss overcoming it, and show how the skills I developed/demonstrated would make me a good law student/lawyer).

4) I did not attend last time, but I attended about a month ago (Sept 19 I believe) and you did not get to me.

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davi2526713
Friday, Nov 11 2016

@.busis One more resume question (if you don't mind):

I'm listing "Freelance Writer" as one of my post-college activities. I only have 3 publications I want to list, and since having a "publications" section seems like it should be reserved for people with academic publications, I'm just listing freelance writer as one of my two post college activities (other is on the Board of a nonprofit, so it's a good one).

Anyway, do I need to list an overall date range for freelance writing (like 11/2013-present). Or can I just list 3 publications and the dates published/date range I wrote for that publication.

For example, do I need the date on the top line below:

Freelance Writer, Durham, NC 11/2013–present

• Published X story in Y maagazine - 06/2016

• Published non-fiction piece "X talked to Y" on coolstorybro.com – 09/2014.

• Staff Writer for Happy Site Baseball Blog from 11/2013–12/2015.

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davi2526713
Tuesday, Nov 08 2016

Thanks David. I'll make the change then.

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davi2526713
Monday, Nov 07 2016

Fair enough - the study abroad is a nice touch to add. Thanks for responding to all my questions by the way! I've got a lot - there's so many little things to worry about in these applications.

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Sunday, Nov 06 2016

davi2526713

Too many schools on resume

Due to taking some random classes after college, and enrolling in a data analytics program recently at a local community college, I've got a lot of schools to list under the education section of my resume. This sort of sucks, because I would rather use precious resume room on cool extracurriculars.

Right now, I have 3 schools listed - my undergrad institution, the community college I'm in currently enrolled in the data analytics program in, and a third school I took a poli sci class from last year. I was not planning to include this third school, but @david.busis suggested I included it so that it didn't appear like I was hiding anything.

I also studied abroad in undergrad, and a lot of sites suggest including that school to add some personality to your resume. However, that would result in me listing 4 schools, which both seems ridiculous and will take up way too much real estate. I'm leaning towards just omitting the study abroad school, since that won't boost my resume much, and leaving the third school (at which I took the online poli sci class) to avoid any potential harm not fully disclosing that course might cause. Does this seem like the best plan to you all?

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Sunday, Nov 06 2016

davi2526713

Resume Question

Because you all are the best, I have more questions:

I'm trying to save space on my resume (like we all are), and want to know if this education section is redundant:

College XY

• BA in English; Minors in Creative Writing and History.

• Dean’s List (Fall 2010, Spring 2011, Fall 2011, Spring 2012, Fall 2012).

• Graduated with Honors

• Honors Thesis: Psychological Traps and the Legacy of the Old South in Faulkner’s Fiction.

Can I just cut "Graduated with Honors" and simply list the title of my thesis? Would that convey I graduated with Honors?

Also, do I need to list the semesters for Dean's List? It seems like I should. Thanks 7sagers!

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Sunday, Nov 06 2016

davi2526713

Why Penn Essay

So Penn doesn't have a specific "Why do you want to go to Penn" essay prompt, but one of the optional essays is:

These are the core strengths that make Penn Law the best place to receive a rigorous and engaging legal education: genuine integration with associated disciplines; transformative, forward-looking faculty scholarship; highly-regarded experiential learning through urban clinics and our pro bono pledge; innovative, hands-on global engagement; and a manifest commitment to professional development and collegiality. These qualities define Penn Law. What defines you? How do your goals and values match Penn Law’s core strengths?

Is this just a long-winded way of asking Why Penn? Or should I really spend a good deal of the essay talking about some of my own traits?

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davi2526713
Wednesday, Mar 01 2017

Thanks for the advice!

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Wednesday, Mar 01 2017

davi2526713

Dress Code for admitted Students Days

Hey All,

Got some admitted students days coming up this month. Any idea what the dress code is for those? From perusing the other law school forums, it seems like most people are fairly casual (but they're not really wearing shorts or sweatpants and a t-shirt). So, for a guy, would nice jeans and a collared shirt be decent enough? I'm assuming wearing a coat and tie is overdressing a bit for Admitted Students days, since I don't have any scholarship interviews on these (that would obviously change things). Thoughts? Anyone already been to some of these?

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