Thanks for everyone's input.
wondering what people think about this issue? would it be better to attend a school ranked from 16-20 with full/near-full scholarship vs a school ranked from 10-14 but with no scholarship? I thought I wanted biglaw but now I'd like to keep my options open, especially after talking to people that work in biglaw. obviously t14 with substantial scholarship is the best option but i don't think that is likely.
I do about 25 questions (1st LG, 1st RC, ~12 LRs) to get warmed up. As long as you find something that works for you its all good.
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I agree and I think once you get acclimated to the newer passages you can get back to the level you were at before, perhaps even better. I focused on elimination which helped immensely and read a ton of articles from NYT, NY'er, Atlantic etc which helped with speed, accuracy and mental endurance. A lot of questions also look like LRs in disguise so working on that also helped.
I don't think the GRE is a good replacement. I (and I am sure others here) went to grad school which required the GRE and that exam measures memorization more than reasoning. Once you mastered the formulas (for the quant section) and vocabulary (for the verbal) you are pretty much all set (reading comp is easier than the RC on LSAT). LSAT isn't the ideal/perfect exam for law but it is probably the best one we have at the moment. The GMAT appears to be a more suitable replacement than the GRE..
*inserts dirty joke*
EDIT: wow 3 year bump..?
I improved 18 or 19 points from my first cold PT, primarily because of your services. Already saved me around $300 in application fees. Took the test twice and baaaaarely improved the second time but its enough to put me in the 75% for my dream school. Couldn't have done this without you!
just wondering if other people think the newer prep tests feels quite different than the earlier ones? I was doing pretty well with the older tests and just switched over the newer tests and not doing so well all of the sudden (4.3 point drop on avg). LGs felt immensely easier, averaging -1 at the moment with 10 minutes to spare. But RC felt a lot more tricky, not so much the questions themselves but the answer choices seem to have more/better attractive wrong answers. LR seems to be less structured as well, but i think i can get this section to catch up pretty soon.
any thoughts?
@ I took in August 2014 and thought I could reach my goal in 3 months. By the time November rolled around I was barely improving so I postponed. Switched to 7sage in January and made a lot of improvements but because I was still improving in February I pushed it back one more time.
@ I originally signed up for the Dec 2014 exam, which I changed to Feb 2015 and changed again to June. 17 point improvement from diagnostic to 1st actual test.
Totally normal! A few weeks before the test I was actually wishing it was sooner so I could just get over it! Multiple nightmares about misbubbling (actually happened a few times on PTs), not able to solve a game at all (also happened a few times on PTs), or running out of time with half the section still left (never happened on PTs, but the pressure is real!). Most relaxing I did was give myself two or three weekday nights off where I just watch movies (also I did binge on MSG V for 50 hours in Sept....). Talking with friends also helped a lot, and venting on forums. Anyways, just don't let it overwhelm you and best of luck!
A game that might require brute force for you might not for someone else..I'd take a look at past PTs to see which types you need to brute force the most and work on strategies from there.
I made a mistake on when transferring from paper to the online answer sheet, I used to be able to see an option to change the answer right below the score portion but it is not there anymore...any other methods?
@ anecdotal evidence, i got nice number of waivers but performed pretty much as you'd expect for someone with my numbers. did save some application money though..
Proctors: Pretty good overall. Stuck to time, no errors with the alarm (had my own watch so it wasn't really an issue). Friendly and gave clear instructions. Had spare pencils as well.
Facilities: OK. Pretty old building and the layout is somewhat confusing. Could only find one bathroom (can fit maybe 7 people at the same time).
What kind of room: auditorium with those swivel desks.
How many in the room: 25ish or so.
Desks: swivel type, not that much space. leave the booklet on your lap.
Left-handed accommodation: didn't notice any.
Noise levels: none, dead quiet.
Parking: Unknown. Looks like there were some street level parking. I took public transit.
Time elapsed from arrival to test: 15 minutes. Proctor wanted to wait a bit for people to show up, we had about 1/3 absentee.
Irregularities or mishaps: none
Other comments: This place ran slightly cold. This was summer so AC was probably on full-blast. Pack a light sweater if testing in June.
Would you take the test here again? Yes because its easy to get to.
Date[s] of Exam[s]: June 2015
Proctors: Pretty good overall. Stuck to time, no errors with the alarm (had my own watch so it wasn't really an issue). Friendly and gave clear instructions. Had spare pencils as well.
Facilities: Excellent. This looks like a relatively new building and was very clean. Plenty of bathrooms/water fountains.
What kind of room: Classroom lecture style, seats 100+.
How many in the room: 40ish or so.
Desks: 5 or 6 feet long desks, plenty of space. Chairs are steel case office type chairs (these are around $750 retail) with a lot of options for adjustment.
Left-handed accommodation: Not applicable since these are desks.
Noise levels: none. Room appears to have some sort of noise dampening material, no windows in the room so I assume it wasn't facing street or anything.
Parking: Unknown. Looks like there were some street level parking. I took public transit.
Time elapsed from arrival to test: 10 mins or so from advertised start time to actual start time (getting people seated, in the right place etc).
Irregularities or mishaps: none
Other comments: The room I took the test in was very bright; however it was slightly warm and I rather have it a bit colder since you can layer up.
Would you take the test here again? No -- because it is too far from where I live, nothing wrong with the place though.
Date[s] of Exam[s]: Oct 2015
@ they want to keep their acceptance % low, this may be a factor in the USNEWS ranking so obviously schools will do their best to rank as high as possible.
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Does anyone else experience this? Most of my high scores came from tests that I thought I did very poorly but the tests that I thought were easy usually ends with subpar score (curves are pretty much the same for both kind)....
The June test starts about 4 hours later (close to noon, EST) so you can sleep in. I also felt that the test was easier; but since the scale is harsher I guess that balances things out. If you are in school the June test might give you more time to focus on studying right before the test, but the Oct test gives you the option of studying over summer without school work. June test, on average, have around 2/3 the number of Oct takers, I couldn't get into the location I wanted for Oct but June test was 20 min walk away from my residence and had fewer overall test takers.
gone.
so i found a pack at work and after hearing so much about them I've decided to try them out; however the heat (NYC heat, ~85-95F) is making the black paint rubbery and peeling off, now I have black/gold paint stuck to the table and my backpack. this is pretty disappointing and i will definitely not use them on the test, just wondering if anyone else had similar experience?
@ Yes, schools give out fee waivers based on LSAT score (but also for other reasons, too). You still need to pay the LSAC CAS fee, which is around $30 per school, although that can be waived based on financial criteria.
I thought this was somewhat similar to certain LGs (process of elimination)
answer and explanation: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/15/science/answer-to-the-singapore-math-problem-cheryl-birthday.html
You can but they won't review it until you have a score. Also it might be better to wait since you might be able to get a fee waiver based on your score.
you can write to them and ask for an extension. i doubt there are any serious consequences other than losing your deposit, but i'd take a look at the terms and conditions to see if accepting the scholarship = binding decision to attend that school (i don't think this is common at all)
1 passage, 1 game, 10LRs or so before my actual exams
I performed better than I thought both times. Actual scores were less than 1 point different than respective average PTs leading up to the exams.
Some of the posters here are assuming lackluster/ambivalent attitude towards law vs selecting between equally exciting/interesting/paying choices .I am absolutely excited at the prospect of law school and the legal world, I have a few great offers on the table at the moment but selecting law means missing out and something else, and selecting something else means missing out on law. maybe i will just role a dice to decide. I think @ can relate to this feeling..
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I can't seem to find a concrete answer to this..
don't think i am the only one torn between a few different possibilities right now, wondering how other posters are making their decision?
I am wondering anyone has any advice on building mental endurance? I tend to get tired around 90 minutes or so, RC section tend to nosedive if I am already tired...
I already workout and read quite a bit so I am hoping for advice on other areas that may help.
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I saw that the December NYC group had a ton of replies and was wondering if anyone is interested in doing one for June. I live in upper Manhattan and can commute (as long as its under 1 hour each way).
I work full time and also am in grad school so weekends work the best for me but I can also do some week nights as well. Strengths are RC and some LG but currently terrible at LR, so I will be focusing on those quite a bit.
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you might've seen this already but TLS has a few samples: http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=27169
feeling pretty uncertain about today's test, especially on two sections. i did OK first time and was confident about 3 sections instead of 2...
Are you done with the course already? if not I suggest finishing up the curriculum before doing anymore PTs. If you have finished the course, you can/should start drilling LGs from earlier exams (you have 40+ PTs, I think you can spare 10 for drilling purposes).
congrats! hope you get into your dream school!
Wondering if anyone experienced that either on PTs or on an actual exam.
Looks good to me, as long as you are finished with the curriculum and basically working on fine tuning at this point its all good