interested!
I've gotten good at getting -0 or -1 in LG unless I run into one of the really old misc games. Does anyone think it is worth my time to review them? Every time I go to watch an explanation video, J.Y. says something along the lines of "I don't think you'll see this on a modern LSAT," which is really discouraging me from putting in more work to get them down. Thoughts? Is anyone else running into this issue?
The LSAC just announced this a couple days ago. Starting in August 2022, all test takers (regardless of first-time status) are allowed to purchase score preview. Cancelling your score via score preview will still show on reports sent to admissions officers, but I've heard from most admissions officers that cancelled scores don't significantly negatively impact your application — I would check with other sources to verify this.
@.marmaduke @ this is super helpful, thank you so much for the insight. Since I am taking the August LSAT in about a week, I'll hold off on tutoring because I'm afraid a drastic change in my thinking process will hurt more than help. If I end up retaking, I'll definitely pursue some tutoring. I usually only have a minute or two left in every LR section which I end up using to make sure my parallel reasoning / parallel flaw questions are correct because I know I can always get them right if I spend enough time on them. On some questions, I feel like I just can't quite make the connection to why the right answer is correct, so I end up picking what I feel like is the best answer (even though I know it has a small flaw or doesn't quite feel right). An example of this was PT83 S1 Q23; even after my blind review when I knew I got it wrong, I could not figure out what the right answer was until I listened to JY's explanation.
For the next week, I'm definitely gonna work on getting LR faster so I have more time to do a second round. Thanks again for your help -- it's really appreciated
@ it's normally just the questions with the hardest difficulty ratings:( though this sounds hellish, i've been considering making drills with only high difficulty questions and do them timed and the untimed -- i feel like this is probably my best bet at improving.
PT8 S1 Q20
this was my reasoning:
a) does nothing; if it did not have the “unless” and everything written after, it would have supported the opponents of demolition, but the “unless” statement makes it ambiguous.
b) forces us to determine that rehabilitation is the correct choice because one proposal (demolishing the houses) precludes the possibility of trying the other approach (rehabilitating the houses)
c) does nothing; we do not know if the government fundings are secure yet
d) does nothing; “thoroughly investigated” is too generic of a term. is the condition of “thoroughly investigated” met if you research the alternative, or is the condition of “thoroughly investigated” met only if you actually implement the alternative. if the latter is the case, then the opponents’ of demolition proposal would have been accepted; however, the term is ambiguous, so it does not help.
e) does nothing; if this is true, it still doesn’t help us decide if which plan we should pick
feel free to reach out if you have any more questions! hope this helps
Hi all! I'm taking the August LSAT (in ten days rip) and am aiming to crack 172. I'm pretty consistently at -0 or -1 for LG and -1 or -2 for RC but my LR score is inconsistent, averaging around -4. I've gone through all the LR curriculum, which only improved my score by one question (LR diagnostic was -5). I have also checked for patterns with the analytics tools, but the questions I get wrong seem to have no discernible pattern. I don't think it's a focus issue because I have noticed that all the questions I end up missing are questions I marked down as being unsure. Has anyone else had this problem and gotten through it? I've cleared my next 10 days to dedicate to LSAT studying and am currently planning on doing 1 PT a day with blind review in addition to 1 extra timed RC section and 1 extra timed LG passage to keep sharp. Since my scores for RC and LG are pretty high, blind reviewing normally doesn't take very long, and I can study well for about 8 hours a day (returns are diminishing for me after that), so it leaves a couple hours a day for LR training. Thoughts on how I can best spend my time dedicated to improving LR?
For background, I got my diagnostic score from 161 (PT82 taken on 6/17/22: -5LR, -10LG, -2RC) to low 170s in about a month just from games training, so I'd like to think it's possible for me to get from and LR score of -4 to -2 in the next ten days. However, I definitely do recognize that consistent LG improvement is generally way easier than LR improvement, so feel free to let me know if you think it's unreasonable and or insane lmao
and finally good luck to everyone taking the August LSAT!!! one final push and we will (hopefully) never have to think about the lsat again(3(/p)
tldr: watching the videos and doing the drills once was certainly not enough to get me to -0. imo learning how to do logic games quickly and accurately is like learning how to do math. sure, watching someone do it and trying a problem once will get you somewhere, but — assuming you are not some genius — you just have to practice over and over until it becomes second nature.
i got to averaging around -1 in about a month, but it was really grueling. i decided in the middle of june that i was going to take the august test after a diagnostic of 163 where almost all of my points were taken off for games. from june 23 to the middle of july, the only thing i did was work on my games
it took me around 2.5 weeks to get through all the curriculum and then another 2 weeks of 6+ hours of drills daily. my strategy was to do every single drill in the curriculum until i could do it in -3% target time. i literally have done some of the drills more than 10 times (the in and out drill w the souderton and randsborough game made me go insane). once i had all of the drills in the curriculum down i used the old PTs to make my own drills. i started with 2 game drills and worked my way up to 4 game drills for stamina.
from my experience, progress was not at all linear, so definitely just keep plugging away. in my first week, i started to get comfortable looking for inferences and drawing game boards — i saw decent improvement in my score just from that, and it also just felt a lot better feeling like i knew what i was doing instead of frantically trying to draw out all the scenarios like i did in my diagnostic. after the initial improvement, i basically saw none for another three weeks. i felt like i was getting better, but my score was highly variable; for some drills i was getting minus 0 and for some drills i couldn't even finish the first of two games. at some point, i realized i was spending too much time trying to make inferences and draw game boards when it was faster to just attack the games with a basic understanding of how the rules interact with each other. after i realized that and got good at determining when to draw sub-game boards and when to just attack the questions, everything just clicked and i started averaging anywhere from -0 to -2. i still do two 4-game drills every day to keep sharp, on top of my daily PT. i find if i don't keep up, i get rusty really fast. anyways, if you want to talk more feel free to pm me!