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Saturday, Oct 31 2020

@ thank you!

It is a skills based test...so hopefully I can just do enough to keep sharp.

Isolation from friends helped a lot early on but one can only live like that for so long.

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Saturday, Oct 31 2020

ethanzavarella991

Am I being too lax?

With the November Flex right around the corner, I haven't been behaving as you think one would in this situation.

For context, I've spent the last 6 months studying mostly full-time for this test and I've taken 20 PTs. The last 10 are averaging around 159 and trending upward–which I am very happy about as I've had to really grind to get here.

My problem is that I am struggling to feel the sense of urgency that motivated to study hard these past months. I don't think I've burned out per se because I am still studying (taking another PT today) but that fire under my but has dissipated quite a bit.

I've seen people say on this forum that you should be getting into a rhythm leading up to the exam, ie: frequently taking PTs at the time you're to take the real thing. Meanwhile, I have been taking them haphazardly and have been hanging out with friend's more often.

Anyhow, is there anyone else in this boat? Should I be getting back on the grind or is it the case that I've already done most of the heavy lifting and so it's merited to ease up on the gas a bit?

I am feeling guilty and conflicted. Advice is appreciated.

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Tuesday, Jun 30 2020

ethanzavarella991

Am I setting myself up to fail?

Hi everyone,

So I started my LSAT journey 2 months ago and got a 144 diagnostic.

I had this idea in my head (probably ill-founded) that 4 months is all one should need to study if you study close to fulltime.

So I put in 4/5 hours a day for a good month and half and have now upped my efforts to around 6-8 hours a day -this is chiefly due to anxiety about not being prepared for the August test.

We're two months out and I have only completed 65% of the CC (I'm trying to be thorough: BR, Foolproofing LGs etc).

I'm getting pretty anxious because I've only started LG a week ago and while fairly accurate, I'm quite slow at them. Moreover I've seen many people here mention that one should FP the LGs from PT 1-35 before taking PTs and there's no way I have time to do all of that- I could maybe, maybe do half.

Best case scenario I finish the CC and have a month to take PTs. I guess I just wanted to reach out and see if people have seen substantial improvement with only a month of PTing, given they've spent a good amount of time on the fundamentals.

I've signed up for the October test as well just in case, although even then, I've heard a month between takes is too short?

I'd really appreciate any advice!

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ethanzavarella991
Saturday, Sep 26 2020

Do something you enjoy and take your mind off it. A few days aren't going to make or break you whatsoever my friend!

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ethanzavarella991
Thursday, Nov 26 2020

Thank you everyone! This is surreal.

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ethanzavarella991
Wednesday, Nov 25 2020

@ You got this.

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ethanzavarella991
Tuesday, Nov 24 2020

Congrats!! :)

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Monday, Aug 24 2020

ethanzavarella991

Take more PTs before August Flex?

Hi everyone,

So I just took PT 70 and scored a PB of 158- which is above my target score. I've taken 10 PTs now and generally average in the mid 150s.

I am torn on whether to take a couple more or to just thoroughly BR PT 70 and do full sections until my test on September 2nd. My reasoning for not taking more is that I am kind of riding a high right now, and I'm worried if I take another and perform worse that that could seriously hinder my confidence going into the exam.

On the other side, I've only taken a few of the newer PTs...

I'd appreciate any advice!

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ethanzavarella991
Thursday, Sep 24 2020

I made big gains in LR by doing what may seem like an insane BR process. I redo every question from a section during BR and I try to articulate to myself why right acs are right, and why wrong acs are wrong.

Regarding skipping, I looked at which questions were taking me the longest -this was parallel questions -and I adopted an instant skip policy. I went from not being able to get close to finishing every question to just having those skipped PFs left over.

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ethanzavarella991
Tuesday, Nov 24 2020

@.Bilenkey good job! :) That’s damn impressive!

Glad you enjoyed my comments and yes us Canadians have to stick together!

Maybe I’ll see you around in law school :)

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ethanzavarella991
Tuesday, Nov 24 2020

@ Thank you! Your wisdom on here certainly helped!

@ thank you!!

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ethanzavarella991
Tuesday, Nov 24 2020

@ thank you bro!

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Tuesday, Nov 24 2020

ethanzavarella991

144 to 158!!

This isn’t the craziest increase you’ll see, but man did we ever pour our hearts out for it.

Thanks to everyone on here who helped me and provided encouragement. There were many times where I felt defeated and turned to this platform for advice and support.

Thank you 7sage for providing a great site to make this happen.

I had very little natural skill at this test so it took me 6 months and probably some 800+ hours of study to get this score. The point is, this test can be learned.

Never give up on the dream people.

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Sunday, Aug 23 2020

ethanzavarella991

"Removing Luck" on PTs

Hi everyone,

I'm wondering what people's thoughts are as to guessing on questions you don't get to/are uncertain of on PTs.

I listened to a 7sage podcast and J.Y says to always leave these blank, so that you can remove the element of luck and better gauge where you're at skill-wise.

I have been implementing this practice and I think it may be having a negative psychological effect on me. My PT scores have been ranging from 153-157 while taking this approach and consistently seeing my results be lower than what I think they could be is rather discouraging.

For perspective I tend to not get to about 20-25 questions per test.

Should I just try to get over this psychological hurdle, or should I just start guessing on those questions and boost my confidence?

Thanks in advance!

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ethanzavarella991
Sunday, Sep 20 2020

@ This is a great point that I somehow hadn't considered. I've been mostly doing older games... damn. I knew the ones on the flex just felt a bit "weird".

I'm going to seriously increass my exposure to the newer games over the coming weeks.

Thanks for the suggestion regarding the Loophole book!

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ethanzavarella991
Sunday, Sep 20 2020

@ @

Thank you both for the responses!

@ I am thinking that you're right, in that starting to read the PS bible while planning to retake soon is inefficient. I do really like J.Y's set ups, and I just scored a -5 on a section, albeit an easier one, this is perhaps a sign of more to come?

I think I'm going to keep plucking away at games and perhaps in the future, if desperate, mix in the bible.

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Saturday, Sep 19 2020

ethanzavarella991

A Rally Cry

So you didn't score how you wanted to on the August Flex, and you're feeling discouraged?

That's alright.

I want to share a little quote-perhaps a corny one, but a meaningful one no less- from the Rocky movie: "It's not about how hard you can hit, it's about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward."

Maybe your score delt you a blow, but that's not going to define you. What's much more important, is how you respond to that blow, how you proceed from here.

So dig deep and remember why you set out on this difficult path. Why you dared to dream to be a god damn attorney. Remember what you've been through already and let that fuel you, let it push you forward.

Let's get back up, and let's crush the ever living shit out of this test, and let's manifest those dreams.

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ethanzavarella991
Saturday, Sep 19 2020

158 is awesome! Congrats!

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Friday, Sep 18 2020

ethanzavarella991

Integrating The Power Score Bible

Hi people,

So I got a 154 on the August flex and need to raise this at least three points by November

Games are my weakest section, I'm averaging around -9 or so. This is despite having foolproofed all games from PTs 1-35, in addition to FPing games from 10 other PTs.

Basically, I'm curious whether buying the powerscore bible right now is going to confuse me by giving me a new system this latw in the game (I'm very used to setting things up as J.Y does).

There other option is to keep drilling games the same way and hope to start seeing that infamous "click" people talk about.

I'd appreciate any advice.

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Wednesday, Sep 16 2020

ethanzavarella991

Why does this feel like a fluke?

So I just scored a 161 on PT 63, and this is honestly the equivalent of a 170 plus for me. I Know this level of score will almost certainly get me into a Canadian school and that's all that matters to me at the end of the day.

This came after four months of studying basically full time. After starting off with a 144 diagnostic. Yet, I can't shake the feeling it's a fluke somehow? I can't help but feel maybe I got lucky. Which doesn't seem to be the case because my past three PTs have been 158, 158 and now 161.

From the very beginning I've been doubting myself. Telling myself I'd be happy with a 155, just to have some chance.

Anyone else experience this sort of self doubt and how did you crush it?

I'm tired of part of me thinking I'm not good enough to well on this test. What can I do?

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Saturday, Jun 13 2020

ethanzavarella991

Penalties for Withdrawals? (REALLY need some advice)

Hi everyone,

So I am determined to apply this upcoming cycle and have registered for the August test. However, I want to leave room for a second attempt so I am considering signing up for the October test as well.

My plan would be to see how my score is from August -I believe I would get the result in late September- and then I would withdraw from the October test depending on whether or not I am satisfied with my score.

I honestly don't care so much about losing money for the late withdrawal at this point; I just want the added peace of mind that comes with knowing I have a possible second attempt.

I am just wondering whether or not a late withdrawal will be reflected on my application negatively, if it appears there at all.

Would anyone be aware of these details?

I would appreciate any help and advice very much!

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Wednesday, Aug 12 2020

ethanzavarella991

In Need of Advice...

Hi everyone,

So I am currently registered for the August Flex. I've been studying since May and I've averaged a 154 across 7 prep tests post CC and this has been while avoiding guesswork as much as possible- if I don't get to a question, I just leave it blank.

Generally I miss around 20 or so questions per PT. This includes an entire RC passage, an entire LG and probably 5-7 LR questions.

With my GPA I really only need a 157 or 158 to have a good chance of being admitted to a Canadian Law School.

My thinking is that even now, were I just to guess on those last 20 or so questions, I would come very close to these scores. This is without factoring in any improvement I see by August. Then of course there's the test day penalty to consider as well...

I am really at loss of what to do here. I'm not sure whether I should just go for this cycle, write in August and potentially again in October/November, or whether I should take as much time as I need and just apply for the following cycle.

For reference, I'm averaging around -8 on LR, -9/-10 on LG and a paltry -11 on RC right now (I've neglected RC quite a bit up to this point.)

I would appreciate any suggestions or advice because honestly I am at a loss right now.

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Saturday, Sep 12 2020

ethanzavarella991

From -16 to -5 in RC

Disclaimer: I'm not claiming to be an RC expert, but I've seen huge improvement in a short time period (roughly two months) and would like to share how.

Starting out I was abysmal at RC and things stayed that way as I was told RC is the "least improvable" area. Fast forward and this is my most improved section. So what changed?

I started doing additional reading pretty well every evening for about an hour. I've been reading some dense literature, Dostoevsky's Demons in particular. I atrribute an increased facility in reading passages to this additional reading practice.

I read the LSAT Trainer's tips for RC. The main points can summarized as follows: routinely ask yourself why the author is writing what they are, what the purpose of each pargraph you read is in relation to the passage as a whole, and what the main point of the passage is.

Using J.Y's "active reading" technique. After each paragraph I read I force myself to jot down a summary/main idea of it. Knowing I have to write something down while reading has indeed helped me read with more purpose, and force me to better understand paragraphs before moving on.

Reading a new RC passage or two every single day and doing a thorough BR. I'll often sit and analyse every single question and make sure I'm confident of my choice before I move on. My BRs typically last 30 minutes to an hour.

Reading articles on Sciencenews.org. The broader your knowledge base, the better equiped you are for whatever a passage throws at you. Moreover, these passages ressemble actual RC passages and I've even been able to implement similar techniques while reading them (ie: asking what the purpose of a paragraph is and how it relates to the main point of the article).

I've starting listening to "A Skeptic's Guide to the Universe" podcast. As a foreign languages major my science knowledge is weak, and I think it's possible that listening to discussion of science topics by experts has helped me improve in this regard. Plus it's just genuinely interesting material and once again adds to your knowledge base!

I've seen lots of RC struggles posts on here lately so I felt this write up would be timely. Let me know what you think!

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ethanzavarella991
Thursday, Nov 12 2020

@ Thank you for the breakdown!

I'm going to get back at it tomorrow.

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ethanzavarella991
Wednesday, Nov 11 2020

@ Thank you! Great response :)

@ thank you as well!

I did mostly flex PTs. I think this was a mistake because it may have lowered my stamina, which seemed to be my problem on test day.

I everything into that LG section because it's my weak area and I felt gassed after.

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ethanzavarella991
Wednesday, Nov 11 2020

Are you sure you didn't do well?

I think we're poor at estimating how we actually did on these tests.

I don't think I did well on the Nov FLEX either but at the same time I wouldn't be shocked if I did better than I thought.

Cancelling gives you very little benefit, especially if, in your case, the schools don't average scores.

You will be considered with your Jan score though, if you do decide to cancel.

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ethanzavarella991
Wednesday, Nov 11 2020

Guys I just landed a full-time position and this situation has just escalated very quickly...

I am actually shocked as this position looks to be very good for me.

Ughhhh this has just gotten so much harder.

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ethanzavarella991
Tuesday, Nov 10 2020

@ Are you American?

In Canada there is category you can apply to if you have faced extenuating circumstances in your life that impacted your studies, such as illness.

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ethanzavarella991
Monday, Nov 09 2020

@

Thanks for the response!

Over here 160 is the golden standard for admission. I could probably get in somewhere with just a few point increase though.

I have definitely built this test up a lot in my mind and that could very well be what is holding me back here. I really need to work on the whole relaxing thing...

@ I appreciate the optimism and you made a great point about the gap between the job search and actually getting hired.

I think I'm going to take your advice and job hunting on my down time. I need something else as an outlet.

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ethanzavarella991
Monday, Nov 09 2020

@ Thank you for sharing your experience with this.

I've been at this mostly full-time for about 6 months so part of me just wants to be done with it all.

If I can muster the motivation then sticking to full-time study would be best for my chances at a better score. I just feel like the pressure is accumulating more given that I am doing nothing but studying, if that makes any sense.

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Monday, Nov 09 2020

ethanzavarella991

In a tough spot

Hi everyone,

So I took the flex yesterday and I am shocked at how underwhelmed I am.

Going in I was averaging around 159/160, and was generally feeling great in LR and RC, but still weak in games.

On the flex I did well on the games (by my standards) and then for some reason I couldn't get into shape for LR and RC (missed a whole passage) and I've no idea what happened.

At this point I will be content to score anything above my 154 from August.

I am applying to Canadian schools (in access category at most) with around a 3.7 gpa and I don't know whether I should keep studying full-time until the Jan Flex, or to go find a full-time job and study on the side.

Saving money for law school sounds nice, but one must get in for that to be relevant and I'm going to be borderline.

I appreciate any help really.

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Tuesday, Jul 07 2020

ethanzavarella991

What would you ask a judge?

Hi everyone,

Slightly different post here.

I have the opportunity to sit down and talk with a superior court judge and I'm just looking to draw up some questions for him.

I thought I'd reach out to the community here to get some different perspectives.

If anyone has any suggestions I would love to hear them!

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ethanzavarella991
Friday, Nov 06 2020

I like the BLE.

BIG LSAT ENERGY!!

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ethanzavarella991
Friday, Nov 06 2020

I think the best advice I can give here is to drill the fundamentals. It was painstaking, but taking the time to thoroughly understand the content of the CC and doing the drills over and over is what has helped me.

Also, for people like us who lack natural talent for this exam, repetition is our friend. You need to drill, drill and drill some more.

At first you may feel like you're wasting your time, but trust me when I say that the patterns repeat themselves. Do hundreds of LR qs, hundreds of LGs, and plenty of RC passages and you'll start to get questions right by virtue of familiarity.

If this process forces you to apply later, then so be it. Forcing a timeline has given me more anxiety than provided me benefit.

Don't give up my friend. If you crushed your undergrad you can do this.

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Monday, Jul 06 2020

ethanzavarella991

In/out games bi-conditional confusion

Hi everyone,

So I had a discussion with a fellow 7sager about the conditional relationship v ----> /z and how it pertains to grouping/in/out games.

My understanding from the CC is that this relationship would not constitute a bi-conditional, because we can fail the sufficient condition /v, rendering the rule irrelevant. If it were a bi-conditional, /z would have to also be a sufficient condition for v, but this doesn't seem to be the case because as I just mentioned we can have v (v IN) and /v (v OUT). For this to be a bi-conditional would it not have to further be specified that we must have "either v or z, but not both" ?

The other 7sager mentioned that it would be a bi-conditional in a two group, non In/Out game. I was under the impression however that all two group grouping games can be conceived of as In/Out games -we seem to just arbitrarily assign one group as the in group and one group as the out group.

I would really appreciate any help because this has been running through my mind all day.

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Friday, Sep 04 2020

ethanzavarella991

LSAT Writing; how anal are they?

Hi all,

So I just took the LSAT writing portion of the test and though I did show my scratch paper in the full room scan, I forgot to show both sides of the paper. Do you think they'll reprimand me for this?

Is there anyone who did the same and still had their sample accepted?

I'd appreciate any feedback here.

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ethanzavarella991
Wednesday, Nov 04 2020

@ So, if your friend was working their ass off trying their hardest to achieve their goal, you wouldn't give them any encouragement?

Lots of people, hell maybe most people don't go after their dreams.

Lighten up.

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ethanzavarella991
Tuesday, Nov 03 2020

As a vegan with a peanut allergy I really identified with J.Y's analogy for question 22 ac C lol

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Wednesday, Jun 03 2020

ethanzavarella991

Dilemma Regarding Test Dates

Hi everyone,

So I initially set aside 4 months (May-August) to study full-time for the LSAT and plan on writing the end of August. I've been studying about 4-6 hours per day for the past month here on 7Sage and I'm about 34% of the way through the CC. Overall it's going well enough, however I am afraid that I've perhaps not allocated myself enough time to prepare. I should be able to finish the CC by mid July, leaving me approximately a month and a half to consistently take PTs and review. My diagnostic was a 144 but I really feel I could have done a bit better (family was making plenty of noise during the later portion).

I am dead set on being admitted for 2021 (to a Canadian School), so the other option is to take the October test. However, I feel that restricting myself to one attempt would apply extra pressure.

I have already registered for the August date and I am considering registering for the October date as well. This really is a sticky situation since I may only get my test results back from the August test just before the October test, and thus not be within the range to cancel. Conversely, I don't want to bank on doing well in August and be too late to register for the October test in the event that my results are not up to par.

I would sincerely appreciate any advice!

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ethanzavarella991
Tuesday, Nov 03 2020

Thank you both!!

and @ it's about $300 Canadian dollars. That conversion rate hurts lol

Hi people,

I am taking the November FLEX and currently debating on whether to register for the January FLEX. This decision ultimately comes down to whether or not I will have my results before the registration deadline for the January administration (Dec 2nd).

I am wondering if I will actually know my result from the previous exam before the deadline. It seems plausible in this case because typically it takes about 3 weeks to get results, but LSAC being LSAC I would not be surprised if they announced scores on Dec 3rd, forcing me to pay another $300 for an LSAT I may not need to take (YAY LSAC).

Would love to hear what people think about this one.

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Tuesday, Sep 01 2020

ethanzavarella991

Sick before Flex

Hi people,

So up until about 4 days ago I was feeling quite good about taking the flex: I had just scored a PB and was feeling confident. Then I got the flu and I things went to shit. Essentially I haven't done much studying the past few days and I write tomorrow.

I'm still not feeling the best and I can't decide whether or not I should try to power through and do some review today, or just to try to recover and hopefully be feeling better for tomorrow. Four days without studying after 4 months of studying every day feels like, well, a long time. I'm not sure what to do here.

Would appreciate some advice.

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ethanzavarella991
Thursday, Oct 01 2020

Hey we're in a similar boat! I'm also writing in November and would love to just be done with this.

Here's the thing though, we have to dig deeper here. We did not spend all this time studying in vain. We didn't make all these sacrificies to squander the time we have left.

If you've made significant progress so far, you likely have a method that works. Your "intuition failing" could just be a bad LR section, that happens to everyone.

Keep your head up. You're on the cusp of achieving something many people only dream about.

One more month of grinding will go by quickly, but that feeling you'll have when you get that score you've been working for, I'd imagine that feeling will last indefinitely. (Pain is temporary and all that...)

Goodluck :) Wish you the best!

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