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LSAT · Another Should I Cancel Post (Nov. FLEX)

gloverlandon747

Wednesday, Nov 11 2020

I always recommend against cancelling scores unless you are 100% certain you did worse than your previous score (i.e. you fell asleep and forgot to bubble half the test).

Unless you are 100% certain you didn’t get a 149, then don’t cancel. Take the score and go from there. If you scored lower, then you are already prepared to take it again. Law schools really only care about your highest grade because that’s what they report. If there’s any chance the score will be higher, don’t cancel. You’ve already paid the money and put in the time.

General · Improvement Tips from my 7 Month LSAT Journey

gloverlandon747

Wednesday, Oct 28 2020

Amazing score and great advice! My own experiences echoes exactly what you are saying: I took the test three times, scoring several points below my average PTs on the first two takes. For the third test, I decided to study only on weekends and spent more time reading. On the third take, I scored a few points above my average PTs. Just goes to show, this test is more than just about knowing the material, it's about the mental and physical battle of performing well when you need to.

General · Is applying February too late?

gloverlandon747

Tuesday, Oct 27 2020

It's worth applying to your top schools but February puts you at a significant disadvantage for applying. No reason you should throw in applications late, see what happens, and then reapply if necessary.

Admissions · Writing a "Why X" for Notre Dame

gloverlandon747

Tuesday, Oct 27 2020

@ddmondero382 said:

Thanks. So I personally don't believe I wrote anything too "controversial." The real meat of my essay was my interest in their religious liberty clinic. My professor expressed concern that perhaps some of the faculty in the admissions committee might have certain negative connotations associated with religious liberty and thus have a reason to not admit me.

Yeah -- like I said, if you don't get in because some of the faculty have a problem with you being interested in one of their clinics then maybe that school wouldn't be right for you anyway.

Admissions · Writing a "Why X" for Notre Dame

gloverlandon747

Monday, Oct 26 2020

Are those truly the reasons you want to go to NDLS? If so, then absolutely do not re-write it.

You need to be yourself and express yourself to the admissions committee whether or not it might be "too controversial."* Look at it this way -- if why you want to go to a law school is too controversial* for them, then maybe they aren't the right law school for you.

*within reason. Obviously don't be overly controversial for no reason. That doesn't sound like the case here: maybe the subjects are controversial to some but they clearly relate directly to the school.

LSAT · 144 (diagnostic, July 2019) -> 164 (May 2020) -> 165 (July 2020) -> 173 (!!!)(October 2020)

gloverlandon747

Friday, Oct 23 2020

@elizabeth-c-crawley9 said:

@juliet7sage that is an incredible and inspiring journey. Great job, may your law school dreams come true.

WOW — thank you so much. That honestly made me tear up a bit because it all feels like a dream right now.

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Friday, Oct 23 2020

gloverlandon747

173 (!!!)(October 2020)

I never thought I would get to write this post: After over a year of studying with 60+ practice tests taken, I can finally say I am done with the LSAT. I Climbed to 170!

Thank you so much to 7sage for helping me break through to this level! I'm absolutely going to write more about my study patterns, how I adapted to score drops and test-day anxiety, COVID, employment, and more, but first ------ I'm going to go celebrate at 9 AM 😝

General · Flex

gloverlandon747

Tuesday, Oct 13 2020

No -- you supply your own paper (max of 5 sheets) that you show both sides of before taking the test. The scratch paper does not have to be in view of the camera but you yourself must stay in the view.

General · Opinions on Cancelling LSAT Score

gloverlandon747

Wednesday, Oct 07 2020

Don't cancel unless you are certain you did worse. I've heard cases of people considering canceling and then luck out and score above their average. Canceling should be reserved for situations of certainty only (i.e. you didn't answer 15+ questions on a section for some reason). Otherwise, roll the dice.

Admissions · Addenda for 3 LSAT takes?

gloverlandon747

Monday, Oct 05 2020

No. Less is usually more with applications. You have good scores and three takes is not abnormal. I would only write an addendum to explain a large score drop.

Study Groups · Am I ready for Nov LSAT?? Help!

gloverlandon747

Thursday, Sep 17 2020

PTs 1-5 are significantly different than the newer tests (PT 59+). PT 1-5 have questions types that no longer exist, two-part LR questions, different LG formatting, and no Comparison passages on the RC.

All that being said, there's no reason you shouldn't take the November if you truly think you will do better on a three section test. Like you said, you can always study more. Plus, you still have time to study for November. Try taking a couple newer tests (I would recommend 70 and 80) and see how you do.

Admissions · Which Tier Should I Focus On (Unique Situation)

gloverlandon747

Thursday, Sep 17 2020

I agree with @gloverlandon747 -- it's hard to give you an answer without an LSAT score. Your GPA is decent and shouldn't hold you back from getting into a T-14 if you put in the work on the LSAT. If you want to use your GRE though (I would not recommend) then you are probably looking at a T40 school at best.

General · Errors during a PT

gloverlandon747

Thursday, Sep 17 2020

This has happened to me in the past. I had to change the format of the test to paper and use the pdf format to fill in my answers based on memory to save my answers. It's terrible that this happened to so many people. Hopefully this can be a quick fix until 7sage can correct the issue.

General · Why does this feel like a fluke?

gloverlandon747

Thursday, Sep 17 2020

@gloverlandon747

Let me know how it goes when you decide to sit for the test! Feel free to reach out if you need anything or just want to talk!

General · Why does this feel like a fluke?

gloverlandon747

Wednesday, Sep 16 2020

Here's what I think: It sounds like you are absolutely crushing it! You are putting in the work and seeing results; plain and simple. Don't overthink it.

I also started at a 144 and had a ton of self-doubt for months and months. I still do honestly -- It's hard to shake. I had friends with diagnostic scores that took me six months to achieve. It's easy to feel like you are getting lucky but practice pays off and it clearly is for you. Know this: the amount of hard work you are putting in now will pay off in law school. If four months of full-time studying is just "luck" then you've earned all the luck coming your way. BUT it's not luck, it's you getting LSAT harder, better, faster, and stronger.

What can you do? I would say the same you are doing! You are studying full-time and seeing great results. I see zero indication of why you won't get the score you need and become a lawyer!

General · October Flex 2020: Advice on How to Cope w/ PT Score Drop? (later PTs)

gloverlandon747

Wednesday, Sep 16 2020

I feel almost exactly the same way. I've started taking more recent tests and I always do worse than older tests. Thankfully, the official tests have pulled from older administrations for the Flex, so it's not guaranteed you get newly written questions. Keep grinding and it will work out!

LSAT · Could anyone explain this to me?

gloverlandon747

Monday, Sep 14 2020

Hi there,

I think you meant to comment this on a specific question and not on the general discussion form?

General · Who here has taken a year to study? Will it actually help me improve?

gloverlandon747

Monday, Sep 14 2020

I did. I took my diagnostic on July 2019. I started studying seriously around August 2019 and have been studying ever since. I was studying full-time from March 2020 - June 2020 until I found a part-time job in a law firm. Before March 2020 and the first 7 months of my studies, I had a full-time job that mentally exhausted me.

I went from my initial diagnostic of 144 to a 165 on the July Flex. I have had several PTs in the 170s (max of 175) and haven't made worse than a 160 since March 2020.

More time will always help. I wish I had more time, more resources, and more willpower. If you can manage taking more time to study, it will pay off in the long run. The key is using your time efficiently and effectively.

General · Signing up for November 2020 Flex, but why does it still make me choose a testing center?

gloverlandon747

Monday, Sep 14 2020

Correct -- the November test is a Flex. I was required to put a testing center when I signed up for the October Flex too. I guess they don't want to update their system just yet.

Just choose a location close to you. You will receive an email to sign up for a time and date about 2 weeks before the test day.

LSAT · Anxiety Attack During LSAT - Should I Cancel??

gloverlandon747

Thursday, Sep 03 2020

Don't cancel. You already have a score on the books, so there's no benefit in cancelling a score even if it ends up lower. Law schools look at your highest score. If it does end up significantly lower than your first score (I'm talking 140 or less) then it could be beneficial to write a LSAT addendum saying you had a panic attack during this test.

I always say, unless you are absolutely, positively, 100% sure you did not get the score you want (i.e. didn't answer 20 questions on a section or something) then you should always keep the score and see how you did. You might get a happy little surprise!

Admissions · Character and Fitness Formatting question

gloverlandon747

Thursday, Sep 03 2020

I wouldn't separate them unless they ask you to in the application. In my opinion, it's best to minimize the amount of physical space you give to the "bad" parts of your application in favor of the good parts.

LSAT · How many questions will be on the FLEX LR?

gloverlandon747

Thursday, Aug 27 2020

I've taken the FLEX twice and the composition has been 25 LR, 23 LG, 27 RC both times.

Study Groups · 165+ LR Group: EDT, Saturday (1 hour sessions): CANCELLED

gloverlandon747

Friday, Aug 21 2020

I'm interested! I PT ~170 with a 165 on the books. Let me know if there is still room!

General · day before/ test day

gloverlandon747

Saturday, Aug 15 2020

Don't change your methods before the big day! Do exactly the same thing you do the day before you take a practice test. Trust me -- try to make yourself believe you are just taking another practice test. The more you stress about the importance of the test or pre-test routine, the more your emotions will affect you on test day.

Admissions · Should I write a Diversity Statement?

gloverlandon747

Thursday, Aug 06 2020

Sounds interesting to me! I think it will really depend on how well you write it, but based on the concept alone I would say go for it!