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I received a 172 on the August test, which was my first attempt. I have a 3.95 uGPA and am not URM. I have a graduate degree and am in the process of getting another. I also have some relevant legal work experience. My PR was a 177 (with a 180 BR). I think I could do better than 172 if I took it again, but ideally, I would like to stop studying.
I'm hoping to go to HYS or Chicago, or to get substantial merit aid from another T14. Do you think it's worth retaking? Or are my chances decent as is?
Thanks!
I am taking the LSAT on Friday (Aug. 12) and have been having trouble with logic games. By mid-July, I was often getting -0 to -2 on LG sections, both in PTs and in drills. However, in the last two weeks, my LG performance has gotten worse, ranging from -3 to -6. This usually happens in PTs; when I drill, I still get around -2 or -1.
My problem doesn't seem to be with the setup (I practically always set the games up how JY does in each explanation video). I also nearly always get -0 on BR, so I think I am understanding the material well enough. My problem seems to be something more psychological: I think I'm psyching myself out and can't perform under pressure.
Does anyone have any tips for issues with psyching yourself out or something similar? It's very frustrating because I know my goal score is within my abilities!
Hi everyone,
JY often says that it's a good idea to scan the question types in a LG before deciding whether to split: if there will be more gameboards than questions without additional premises, then it's best not to split; if there are more questions without additional premises than gameboards, it's worth splitting.
I understand that it would be easy to scan these on paper versions of the test, but I am wondering whether others do this on digital versions of the test? Do people click through the questions to see what type they are before diagramming? Is this time efficient on the digital version of the test?
Thanks!
As many 7Sagers will tell you, LG is the most difficult section without guidance and also the easiest section to improve on. It just takes practice and time. I think you can still improve significantly with 7Sage alone, without a tutor. Good luck!
I've read that it is best to take the more modern tests just before test day, as the questions and difficulty is more similar (e.g., PTs 80-92). If you haven't already taken those, it might be a good idea to use them now!
Your question is hard to answer because different sections require different amounts of time to improve. So there isn't one score that you should have by the end of June (last week; whoops!) if you want to get 165+. For example, if you had a 155 but all your errors were in LG, then you would perhaps have enough time to get 165+ by August. But if all your errors were in RC, then it would take longer to get 165+.
Which areas do you need to improve on most?
JY often "plays" with the rules in a LG before he does the questions. Do you all recommend doing this even on timed tests? If so, do you do so in your mind's eye, or actually on paper?
I usually play with the rules in difficult games when I'm doing BR, but not on the timed tests. I'm thinking about whether I should change this practice.
I'm in a similar situation. My diagnostic was okay with a bombed LG section. Average around -2 for both RC and LR with minimal studying. But averaging -5 to -10 on LGs.
However, there's hope! Recently, I got -3 and -4 on LGs. I think the foolproof method is a great way to improve. It allows you to easily identify the best setups for a given game and when you need to split gameboards. If games are set up properly, the questions go more quickly.
You write,
Question explanations aren't very helpful because, given enough time, I can get the correct answer to basically any LG question--the issue is just timing.
Instead of viewing the question explanations as telling you the right answer, it is better to view them as explaining the most efficient setups and inferences you can make to get to those answers. Knowing this will make you faster.
Update: I recently got my first -0 on LG and am consistently doing better! Foolproofing really works!