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Does LG compliment LR? Unfortunately, not really. The same type of phenomenon of seeing the same types of questions over and over create some familiarity. Like, you may recognize a rule in one game to another game the same way you may see a flaw question that uses the same reasoning as a previous question. When you can start to pick up those moments where you know exactly what is going on because you remember exactly where you saw it before, you will know you are making some progress.

Thank you this does make sense. I am hopeful that my initial struggles with LR are just coming from this being a new thing to learn in general. I am optimistic that familiarity and repetition will help and ready to continue grinding.

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If you are at 60 hours after two weeks, that would be 30 hours a week. That is about the maximum you should be at, and you may want to consider taking an hour or two more off. I was totally like you when I started studying. I kept hour logs, put that work in every day, and was sure after a certain amount of hours the work would show. Unfortunately, the LSAT is not a brute force academic test. You need to be grounded in the fundamentals before you see lasting improvement and that improvement is the last thing you see in regards to your effort.

Like @, it took the CC and an in-person course over five to six months for me to see that shift. It took three more months to make the leap from I understand to I am almost good. Before you get too frustrated about not seeing major improvement, focus on that step by step progress. Based on your comment about the MBTs, you are still working on getting a fundamental understanding for what some questions types are asking for (and that is super okay).

Be patient and kind to yourself. Super cliche but this a marathon, not a sprint.

Yeah that was like one of the first set of MBT I did that were part of the core curriculum. I am going harder however, I am spending 40+ hours a week on studying and I only did about 30 hours a week cause I had to study for my university finals. I will spend some more time coming back to the fundamentals of LR and getting them down first once I am on the LG section of CC and beyond. Do you think that the skills learned in the LG section will eventually compliment the LR section as well? Thank you!

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There is but you need to keep practing and I would take the level of difficulty down. Start with some 2 and 3 star questions because as you can see from the BR there are still some fundamentals that you need to make concrete first.

If you make sure you have a solid understanding, plus a sound strategy for each question type, along with a wrong answer journal where you can articluate your reasoning for why you got a question wrong and even ones that you got right but you guessed and didnt know why it was right, then you'll start to see improvements.

The longer you stick with studying correctly, the more familer you'll become with the material and answering LR questions will even become fun after awhile.

I will keep the idea of a wrong answer journal in mind, maybe that will help significantly. I always try to figure out why my answer is wrong immediately after I BR. Thank you!

@ said:

It took me a solid six months of studying 2-3 hours a day to see improvement in LR. It’s been the hardest section for me so you could see some improvement quicker

Thank you, hopefully I do!

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Hi @, I can't remember which thread it was, but I came across the following "master sheet" a few weeks ago which I think is very helpful. I'm still working through the CC but I plan on using it once I start to drill questions. Hopefully it's useful for you.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yK-ux9iLzRF8c4zfJieZC7cXNuzPaAWEJtwT6BWVzxA/edit?usp=sharing

Hey man this is fantastic! Thank you very much and I will definitely be using this!

I actually blind review with a entire thought process log. For LR and RC, once I do the timed section, I open up a word doc and try to explain why I think each particular AC is wrong or right. I have a word template doc set up for 28 questions in which I write a sentence to explain my reasoning. This really helps me make rational choices when deciding answers and keeps me disciplined on BR.

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I create a problem set consisting of an entire section from a previous exam (e.g. a problem set with four logic games from PT 1), then keep that problem set in a second window and do it some time between the sections on the exam. It's good to move the experimental around to get practice with all the potential iterations on the real exam.

Thank you!

@ thank you very much, this is fantastic news!

danm this question was DIRTY

I am in the same boat and would love to join as well!