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Monday, Jul 31 2017

hanna1ee820

How would you use PT's 7-18?

I have finished the core curriculum work and I have a book of 10 Actual PT's 7-18. I'm taking the September test and I am studying full time (ie not working). As I understand, 7Sage considers these to be too old to be fully relevant as timed PT's so I'm wondering how best to use them. To note: they are all contained in one big book so getting a realistic testing feel will likely take more effort and time than I'm willing to commit.

  • Make copies of the sections and drill? Or perhaps just write my answers in a notebook and drill? Is it important to practice how you would mark up the real tests with your pencil on these drill-type resources?
  • Take each section timed, the first time and then use the questions to drill later?
  • Take each test timed, and then use the questions to drill later?
  • Or....?
  • Would you use these as a mainstay of drilling or start getting through some of the higher numbered PT's and use those for drilling? What about the logic games? Are they more or less likely to be relevant today?

    Any thoughts about how and when to use this 10 pack in conjunction with the remaining PT's I'll be taking through 7sage (starter) would be greatly appreciated! Thank you!

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    Wednesday, Jun 28 2017

    @ do I circle the "not 100%" during the test? When I took my first diagnostic, I did not, and I found myself going through the questions and responses again to determine if, at the time I was taking the test, I felt 100% certain. This resulted in spending some time going through the questions, to some extent, similar to the second part of Blind Review.

    Off subject: do you circle your answers on the test sheet and then fill in the answer sheet at the end? Or fill them on the answer sheet while you are doing the test?

    Thank you!

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    Sunday, Aug 27 2017

    Can anyone help me better determine when it's acceptable to assume an opposite? I seem to get caught on these fairly regularly. For example, my thinking was that we have been told what is wrong. The opposite of wrong, in my interpretation is "not wrong" meaning there could exist an option that is neither wrong nor right. Therefore any answer that says "not right" is not what the argument is talking about.

    I know I've seen this in other examples but can't find them for reference right now. Is this a case of thinking too deeply on a generally accepted principle? IE - there is no middle ground between right and wrong? Thus the opposite of one implies the other?

    Thank you!

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    Tuesday, Feb 27 2018

    Fantastic! I'll proceed with admissions first. Folks like you make this website and program stand out among so many others. Many thanks!

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    Tuesday, Feb 27 2018

    Great feedback folks! I agree with not requesting financial aid until I've been accepted but I don't want to be misleading and waste time. If they offer ONLY admission, there's no chance I will attend. I think they deserve to know my situation and weigh it when considering whether I'm worth bumping from the wait-list to the "in" list. It does no good to offer admission if I have no intention of accepting it if my conditions aren't met.

    I agree as well, and hence my post, that using "but" does not sound convincing.

    I met with the (an?) assistant dean and he said that due to their size, they receive many applications and that the sorting process would likely preclude me from immediate admission (low GPA, high LSAT). Because it's been 15+ years since my undergrad and I have a substantially strong resume, it's my hope that someone will actually LOOK at the details of my application, instead of just sorting me into the "not good enough numbers" pile.

    I think I can spin this well enough. Thank you all!

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    Tuesday, Feb 27 2018

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    LOCI: How do I say....

    I've been wait-listed at the highest rank school in my state and I intend to write a LOCI. How do I phrase "Look, I've received a $40,000/year scholarship offer from a lower-rank (not lower quality) school and to be honest if you would offer anywhere close to that amount I would attend your school, hands down. But frankly, at 38 years old, foregoing $120,000 in debt is at the top of my priority list." more eloquently?

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    Friday, Jul 14 2017

    @ I should have been more clear that I took the 2007 diagnostic about a month and half ago and will finish the CC at the end of July. I'm going to aim high and if I have to delay things a year to get the score I want, then I'll cross that bridge when I come to it. Thanks for the info!

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    Friday, Jul 14 2017

    @ Great feedback! Thank you! It sounds like using the 7-18 ten-pack as drill material will hold me over until I finish the CC at the end of July. Thanks again!

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    Friday, Jul 14 2017

    @ said:

    www.lawschoolpredictor.com

    It looks like the site you provided is using data from 2012-2013. Am I reading that correctly? Are reliable resources with current data available? Can I infer school choices from this older data or does it not hold up due to being outdated?

    Thanks for the info!

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    Wednesday, Jul 12 2017

    @ Great stuff! Yeah, I used "plow" as a way to bring levity to something that is weighing heavily on me at the moment. What I intended was: given very soon I will have much more time to study, how best to use that time? I could spend 8 hours a day going through the CC, but I'm skeptical I could integrate all of that at once.

    So then, if I understand you correctly, perhaps a daily study schedule looks like:

    Prior to completing CC:

    2-4 hours CC

    2-4 hours utilizing older tests for timed sections and drills

    Post CC completion:

    Begin full PT's as prescribed in my syllabus/upgrade/buy recent PT's

    Does that sounds like an efficient and wise use of the additional time I will have available?

    Thank you so much for your help!

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    Wednesday, Jul 12 2017

    @ Helpful! And Terrifying! :smiley:

    165 is what I'm after. I do have some experience taking pressure tests like the LSAT. I passed the US Customs Broker Exam like a boss. At the time, everyone always chatted about how this (customs) was "harder than the LSAT." Which meant nothing to me at the time. Irony and the long arc life seems to have had a debt to settle with me.

    Your experience and advice is invaluable and I appreciate you sharing. What has your study schedule been since November? Or rather, on average, how much time do you spend per day/week? Do you use other resources besides 7sage? How's Premium working out for you?

    Are the questions in the Question Bank from actual tests? How would that affect my actual taking of tests containing those questions?

    Thanks for responding thus far! If you don't have time to follow up, I understand. I've asked a lot of you already. Take care!

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    Wednesday, Jul 12 2017

    @ I took the June 2007 timed, completely cold with no experience whatsoever and scored 150. It feels like I'm absorbing the Core material like a sponge and I expect to see drastic improvement on my next PT. That being said, considering the speed I'm moving through the Core, it may be prudent to incorporate regular practice at the skills I've learned thus far, simply as reinforcement since I am up against an ever-shrinking timetable. I'm concerned that when I finish the Core, I may need to "brush up" on some of the earlier skills that were learned weeks earlier. However, it wouldn't be surprising if all the skills throughout the Core rely heavily on the previous weeks skills, and completing the Core is, in effect, practice in and of itself.

    Any insight given this additional information?

    Also, could you explain what you mean by "drilling" as it pertains to source material or resources available via 7sage or other resources? I use Brainscape as a flashcard program and have hundreds of cards entered that I go through daily.

    Thank you!

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    Wednesday, Jul 12 2017

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    Using PT's concurrently with Core Curriculum.

    I've found several similar posts and while valuable, they don't speak to my situation exactly. I'm taking September, I am half way through the Core Curriculum and I'm wondering if I should start using some PT's concurrently with my curriculum work. As of Monday I will be studying full-time.

    Should I:

    Plow through the curriculum and then start doing PT's? (Schedule says by end of 1st week in Aug, I will finish Core)

    Mix in PT's either as timed or piecemeal practice concurrently with my Core work?

    I have a set of 10 that includes PT 7 onward. My understanding is that these are significantly different from today's form and that they may just be good practice instead of indicating potential scores. So realistically between now and test time, I don't think I'll finish so many PT's that I would exhaust supply. Does it make sense to utilize these early PT's concurrently with the core work especially in light of being on a full time study schedule soon?

    Thanks for your feedback!

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    Wednesday, Dec 06 2017

    Ah, yes I should have mentioned: I am a non-traditional student. 13 years since undergrad and so my recommendations will be from non-scholastic sources.

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