I live in Los Angeles and have to go to school part time. I will be applying to Loyola and Southwestern, the only two schools that have an evening program. Loyola, I believe I would need a 150-160 and southwestern, 149+.

Thanks for your support and I looking up the quote now!

ok, got it. should i go through lsat trainer again? i liked it but between the 2, prefer 7 sage. what is a score that would be indicative of understanding the test and the fundamentals would you say?I would think that is different for everyone, but on average? so what I did, is listened to the videos (lessons). I did the question before listening to JY analyze and then did the practice questons. when I finished, I went onto the next section. when doing the practice questions, should i time myself? I promise, my questions are almost over!!!

i dont know. I do freak out a bit when i time myself, as expected. I just dont know what my plan of attack should be now. I did the 7 sage curriculum. Did lsat trainer and now was about to take the PT's to prepare for Feb. I took the test in Feb of 2014, maybe 2013, I cant remember now. I got a 142. I applied anyway because i knew applications were down and thought since I was applying for the evening program, I might be ok. One school said no right away, but the other didnt notify me until june or july which led me to believe I was in the maybe pile. when I did get the rejection letter I called and asked what they thought I needed to do when I applied again...she said, it was your LSAT score, even if you get a 149. So, that being said, I am shooting for even low 150's. I mean I want to strive for more but I dont know if this is the best I can do, and I consider myself an intelligent person. I am at a loss on what to do now. Do I get older exams and drill with those or do the ones I did with LSAT trainer? with reading comp, they say LSAC is testing on structure, not details...it seems they question details as well. It is really difficult for me to get through all 4 passages, to read and answer the questions. LR-i thought I had a better handle on those but apparently not. games, i think the straight ordering are fine, grouping mess me up. I am going through the test now to see if I missed a lot of the same kind of questions. Also, why is blind review more indicative of the score? (that is what the material says when I was reading about the blind review method). I dont get that since we arent timed for blidn review.

I actually have the LSAT Trainer and did it already. I cannot wait until October....I am older and really want to start law school in the fall. Keep in mind, I am not shooting for a 180. I am going to school in the evening and there are 2 schools I can apply to, I would get into either if I score in the 150's. I am beyond frustrated, I dont understand how I am going to improve. I feel like 140's is my wall! Anyway, thanks for your help!

Thanks so much. Your advice all makes sense. I should have said I have a "better" handle on the material than I did a year ago. Also, I am not studying every waking moment. I work full time and I have a son. I study everyday on my lunch break (an hour) and I study 1-2 nights per week, about 3 hours or so and then when I can on the weekends. Yes, 61 was the first one I have taken in awhile. What do you recommend I do then if not continue with PT's? I went through the curriculum and I did the questions that JY did (I would read and answer the questions before listening to JY) and then I would do the Practice questions, I did them all because that is what I thought I was supposed to do. I guess I can upgrade, but what does that do, just give me access to more questions? Let me know what you suggest I do for a curriculum. I can still take the June LSAT and apply for the fall, not my ideal but I would rather feel better about performing because I am not taking this test again :) Oh, regarding the games, timed I got 11 right br I got 16, I still have to go back and look at the questions with JY's explanation. While I was doing BR, I realized I had misread one of the rules which most likely really messed me up. How old PT's do you recommend and when should I take it?

Hopefully I am not driving you nuts, just really need guidance.

Thanks again!

I just found it, thanks! Another question for you, if you dont mind. Need suggestions, guidance please. I have done the curriculum, twice, once a while ago and the second time more recently. I did pretty well on the practice questions, although there were only 5 questions and they seemed the be the easiest of the bunch. I definitely feel like I am grasping the material better than the first time around.

I was planning to take the February test. I just took PT 61 and did HORRIBLE, I am literally in tears. I spend every free minute I have studying....and I feel like I am always in the same place. Timed, I got 43 questions correct and blind review, I got 56 correct. 3 of those questions I waivered between two answers and chose the wrong one all three times. I dont know what to do. Do I keep taking the PT's in hopes of improving, I mean is that the way to improve or do you recommend I do more drills, get a tutor? What should I do from here do you think? I am applying to 2 schools in LA, for the evening program so I am not trying for a 170.

Please let me know your thoughts, suggestions please

Thanks,

Thanks GSU Hopeful. I thought I enter in the answers for blind review for All questions, so that I can compare the timed and BR? When I entered my answers for the PT, it is showing those results for the PT and BR????

Hi J.Y.-Just curious about this problem set. Are these questions more difficult than the lessons? When doing the lessons (I read and answer the questions, then listen to your analysis). I missed 1 or 2 questions. With the problem set, I did TERRIBLE (even with blind review). In regards to the lessons, its as if the answers jumped off the page and were SO obvious. These seemed really difficult. Maybe I was having an off day but was curious as to why they seemed so different in terms of difficulty. Thanks

would like to join the one tonight but i am on the west coast, will do my best, let me know how to participate. thanks

LG with the circle-real. It was on my test.....that whole section can suck it. I thought it was VERY difficult.Thought it was the "tester section" but I only had one LG, so it wasnt. :( I DO NOT want to take that damn test ever again....

Thank you so much!

I also decided to postpone to June. I have gone through the curriculum twice (better handle on it second time around.) But I also think the material was condensed. Should I upgrade so that I have access to more material? Also, what is the process with blind review? I thought you take a PT timed and then take it untimed, repeat with other PT's, is this correct? Thanks

Why is b not considered to be out of scope? " higher incidence of liver problems and other illnesses?" So frustrated....got almost all of these wrong :(

Thank you!