Has anyone done any virtual tutoring sessions and can recommend a tutor? Specifically, I’m looking for help getting from high 160s-low 170s to consistently scoring in the 170s.
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@ @ thanks for the recs! Did you guys work with these tutors personally?
@ I'm going to be in the minority on this one and say it doesn't really matter. Law schools aren't really going to be using your e-mail address as a factor in admissions. You could easily create a new one for LS apps, but I don't think it's absolutely necessary.
@ thanks so much for your kind and helpful comment! I think you’re right about the time factor. I’ve been studying since August, but I work full time so I probably haven’t put in the hours. I’m just going to keep at it. Thanks for being so positive, I’ve been really bummed about missing out on my dream school this cycle so your comment helps me feel better about my chances for next year!
Help! I took the LSAT in December and scored a 165 (I majorly messed up on two games). Since then, I've been seeing a lot of improvement, especially after taking a full week off following the LSAT. I'm concerned by the variation in my scores, though- my last four PT scores have been 172, 174, 180, and a 167, with BR scores at 179-180. There's huge variation within my section scores as well, with my best in each sections being -0 and my worst -4/-5 (average is -2.2 for each section). Since the LSAT I've been working on foolproofing LG and I'm thinking about moving on to working on LR next week. Does anyone have any advice on what I should be working on and how to explain the huge variation in my PT scores? Thank you!
Are we supposed to include every single thing we did during our studies in our resume for law school? Mine will end up being around 4 pages long and that seems wayyy too long. Does anyone know? Thanks!
Hey guys, has anyone been successful in obtaining a deferral request and can share some advice about writing the request letter? I'm applying for personal reasons, not academic or professional ones, if that matters.
@ thanks so much, that was really helpful! Just to be clear, is that option to place a hold on CAS? And more generally, are you happy that you decided to retake? I’m still a bit on the fence about my decision.
I’m taking the test in December but I’m planning to re-take in February if I don’t achieve a high enough score. (I’m really close to my goal but not consistent enough that I feel confident I’ll achieve it in December.) I’m planning on applying for next fall. My question is, if I don’t score high enough in December will I be rejected from schools based on that score or will they wait for my February score? Alternatively, could I be jeopardizing my chances of being admitted based on my December score if schools see I’m registered for February so they don’t consider me until then and spaces get filled?
If anyone knows how this works I would be grateful! Thanks :)
@ I also had a lot of trouble getting started. Just pick a topic (even if you don't think it's good), set aside a few hours, and write. Don't edit or delete anything, and don't judge yourself while writing. After you're done, send it over to a trusted friend (ideally someone with experience applying to grad school) for comments. Hopefully you will get some useful ideas out of this process and you can work on your existing ideas or come up with a new topic that you do like.
@ I’m also an officer although not in the US army so I’d be happy to take a look and give you an idea of how it looks to an outsider :)
@ whoa that’s awesome. What do you think the difference was?
@ No problem, good luck! Btw, do you know where we can see our GPA on OLSAS? I can't find it for some reason.
@ 3.7 is totally fine for U of T or Osgoode if you have a strong LSAT score. I went to McGill where it’s really rare to get a GPA above 3.75 and plenty of people I know got into U of T.
For those of us taking the test in December, how much of an improvement in your score are you hoping to see from now until then? I would love to consistently be scoring around 3 points higher than I am now, but that's probably pretty unrealistic.
@ I’m in the same boat, but the idea of trekking to York every day for three years just depresses me haha
I'm also interested! Feel free to PM me!
@ at my previous LSAT an opera rehearsal began towards the end of section 4. The proctor’s phone also kept going off :@ I didn’t complain, but I wish I had! Three other people sent letters to LSAC about the test centre violations, one cancelled his score and got money back, and two kept their scores and also got money back. I recommend that you write a detailed letter o LSAC and encourage others to do the same! Even if you keep your score, might as well have it on the record that there was a test centre violation (and get some $$ back).
@ I’ve been getting around -4 on LR, -3 on LG and -2/3 on RC. I’m guessing that it’ll be easier to improve on LG, but since there are two LR sections maybe it makes sense to focus on that instead.
I’m taking the December LSAT and I’ve been scoring from 167-174 on my PTs. It’s a pretty wide range, so I’m hoping to get results that are more consistently in the 170s. What’s a realistic goal for improving my score in time for the LSAT? What should I be doing? I work full time, but I could take time off if that would make a difference in my score.
Thanks everyone! I forgot to mention that this was my second take- I took the LSAT in December when I knew I wasn’t ready just to have a score on record to apply. I’m going to take a break from the LSAT and see how I feel come summer- if I have the willpower then I’ll start studying again. Thanks for the encouraging comments!
Like many others I’m feeling sad about my LSAT score and I’d love to get others’ perspective on a (second) retake. I got a 169, which is a few points lower than my PT average. My goal was a 170 so I’m bummed that I came so close but missed the mark. I’m really conflicted about whether or not I should retake- I would only be able to retake in November- I’m working like crazy until June, then going on vacation for a couple weeks in July/August so a June or September exam isn’t realistic. I’m not sure if studying for two and a half months (Aug- October) after a a lengthy break will do much to improve my score, and if it’s worth the time and effort. According to LSAC’s calculator I’ve got about a 50% chance at my target schools. Should I try to be happy with my score, knowing I didn’t reach my full potential, or should I suck it up and study for November?
@ I find that the best approach for me for this type of question is to negate it. It takes a bit longer but it ensures that I understand exactly what's being said, since when I'm speed reading a question I might miss nuances such as "THE only" vs. "only".
So, building on @ 's example, I would approach those two sentences like this :
The only living things in the Jedi order are the Force users.
If you're NOT a Force user, you CAN'T be a living thing in the Jedi order (LTJO).
(/Force --> /LTJO)
Positive: If you ARE a living thing in the Jedi order, then you MUST be a Force user.
( LTJO--> Force )
Only the force users can be the Jedi.
If you're NOT a Force user, you CAN'T be the Jedi.
(/Force--> /Jedi)
Positive: If you ARE a Jedi, you MUST be a Force user.
(Jedi--> Force)
Like I said, this isn't the most efficient way to approach only/the only questions, but I find that negating these questions clarifies the logic.
@ I went to McGill for undergrad and have several friends who went to LS there- they look really favourably upon multiple applications as long as there is improvement in your application the second time around. It shows a high level of interest and a commitment to attending McGill. So I think your plan to apply now w/o the LSAT and later on with your score is a good one! In terms of when to take the LSAT, if you're applying to Canadian schools you've missed the deadline to apply for 2019 anyways, so it would really benefit you to take as much time as possible and plan for a September take with the option of a re-take in December if need be.
Yeah, it's from questions that I don't return to. I guess you're right, I'm probably just going too fast.
I consistently finish LR with around 10 minutes to spare. I then go back and solve the questions that I have marked for review, and I still have a few extra minutes left. Clearly, I'm doing something wrong because I score around -5 in LR. Can anyone suggest what I should be doing differently?
@ I think you hit the nail on the head with the "Of the sights other than..." This question is confusing because of this sentence's formulation, and also because of the double negative you mentioned earlier ("only kinesthesia had NOT previously been shown to be IRRELEVANT"). In plain English, this means that touch and taste HAVE been shown to be irrelevant, but kinesthesia hasn't. The researcher concludes that since kinesthesia MIGHT be relevant, it MUST be sufficient. Whoa! That's a big logical jump that isn't supported by the information given in the study. The researcher assumes that rats deprived of one sense or that have no sensory deficiencies, if they do have kinesthesia, are able to complete the task at the same time BECAUSE of the kinesthesia. But maybe they are using another sense instead, as you mentioned. Maybe there is a sixth sense that rat's possess- an inner eye. Maybe they use the Force. Who knows? B clearly accounts for this possibility.
I think that getting to "B" by process of elimination could be a good approach for this question (that's how I got it initially) since the time that it takes to fully understand the stimulus and predict the right answer may be too long under timed conditions.
Hope this helps.
I saw that someone posted about this a while back. Any tips for the “infer” questions in RC? I am consistently getting these wrong. Anyone here have a good strategy for answering these questions?
@ the advice that I’ve gotten is to take your last PT no later than one week before the test. While I totally get the effect that a high PT score can have on your confidence, you already know what you’re going to score on the test- the average of your last 5 or so PTs, plus or minus a couple points. Since you won’t have much time to address any weaknesses you might identify by taking a PT, I think a better use of your time would be to continue drilling and taking timed sections (those can also be confidence-boosters), and then start tapering off on prep leading into the test.
@ totally agree with both points, especially that admissions aren't looking to ding you based on your e-mail address. Meister could have been an unofficial name that she goes by e.g. stepparent's name, mom's maiden name, adoptive parent's name... Schools wouldn't know and wouldn't care.
@ hmm, so maybe tutoring won’t help me all that much. Thanks!
@ yeah, that strategic advice is what I’m looking for. There aren’t really specific question types that stand out for me, so I think it’s more a question of timing and strategy.