I am scheduled to take the September exam ( 18 days) for the 1st time. I have been having inconsistent PT's from 157-163 within the past 2 weeks. I've been taking 1/2 PT daily. My goal is at least 168 Maybe even 165. I'm debating whether I should reschedule for December or not. I'm weakest at RC missing sometimes 7/8. LR from 5-7 & LG from 0-3. Any advice?
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P1: Body weight = Energy animal needs to move uphill
P2: Surface area - Energy animal has to move uphill
Conclusion: Small animals can run uphill, while large animals slow down when moving uphill
So basically the premises are telling us that an animal's surface area determines how much energy they have while their body weight determines how much they actually need to move uphill.
Therefore, why do large animals slow down when they move uphill? Because they don't have enough energy to do so. And why is this? ---- because their body weight is bigger than their surface area.
This is what Answer Choice C says.
It might be easier to illustrate with another example
EX) A dog's surface area is 55, but he weighs 135. He only has 55 of engery to use, but he needs 135 to move uphill ...... so, he slows down because he does not have enough energy to keep running uphill.
Let me know if this kind of helps?
I would ask at the beginning of the semester because as Seeking Perfection said they're not grading assignments at that time and aren't as busy. This way you also have plenty of time to meet with them during office hours if you'd like.
I understand why answer choice C is correct, but I can't seem to be able to rule answer choice B out. Can someone explain why answer choice B isn't the answer/ why answer choice C is better?
The way I see it answer choice B does significantly weaken the argument because it's showing that people are in fact motivated by money in their job choices, especially if they're identical in all other aspects.
https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-60-section-1-question-13
I've decided to retake the LSAT in February. I scored a 162 on my December exam, but there were some circumstances that I believe affected my score, which is why I know that I can score higher. Should I send in my applications prior to the exam (in January) with an addendum letting them know that I will be retaking in February or wait until after I have taken the exam.
Any advice? Thanks!!
Are you writing a diversity statement as well?
If you do, I feel like you could split some of your experiences onto the diversity statement to make your GPA addendum a bit shorter.
Hey guys! Anyone want to swap personal statements/ diversity statements?
I'd like some feedback from people that don't know me.
In between studying for the December LSAT and writing essays for law school apps, I am starting to feel a bit overwhelmed. I feel like I need to devote a lot of my time on both. Any tips on how to keep my calm and carry on?
Hi guys, so I’m currently studying for the December LSAT & finishing up my essays for the application.
Since the test is in December and I won’t know my score until January, does it make a difference whether I submit my application in December (without knowing my store) vs. in January, once I have received my LSAT score.
I feel like I'm overwriting simply because I have so much to say (even though a majority might just be me ranting LOL). As of now my Personal Statement and Diversity Statement are both 5 pages. I still have to edit them, so that'll probably shorten them a bit.
But my question is, roughly how long should the Personal Statement & Diversity Statement be?
Just heard from USC .... dinged
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It depends on your standing with similarly/higher ranked schools. If they're your top choice and you have no other schools waiting on you then it's unlikely that they'll be willing to send you any money. They hold all the cards - or they think they do! However, if you notify them of other offers that are superior to theirs financially or academically, they will have to step up their financial offer if they want to keep you.
If that doesn't work then you can always look for aid from fafsa.
UC Hasting's which is ranked higher gave me 30K, and I'm still waiting for 2 other schools. But, I'll for sure mention Hasting's aid in the letter. Thanks!
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Take a look at Loyola's 509. According to the 2016-2017 data, 87% of their students received some level of financial aid. You might want to ask if they consider you part of the bottom 13% of their admitted students for this year (your self reported numbers would say you are not).
https://www.luc.edu/media/lucedu/law/Std509Disclosure.pdf
ETA: The question I posed above was slightly tongue-in-cheek. You are obviously not statistically (at least as measured by GPA/LSAT) in the bottom 13% of their class (or bottom 10% if you are a full time admit). I would carefully craft a statement referencing their 509 data specifically, your placement within their bell curve, and a polite request that they reconsider, given their demonstrated history of merit aid. There is no way you should be paying full freight given your numbers.
Thanks for this, I appreciate it! But I was actually talking about Loyola Law School in LA (:
Recently got admitted to Loyola, but they gave me no scholarships. I called and they said that I'm welcome to email the Financial Aid Office so they can reconsider/reevaluate. I was told they don't match other school's financial aid and that all scholarships are merit based.
I was wondering if anyone has any tips on what I should include in the email. I'm at their 75th percentile for LSAT and a bit above their 50th percentile for GPA.
I'm from San Jose and the only bay area school I applied to was Hastings. All the rest are in SoCal. Born, raised and went to undergrad in the Bay, so I'm excited to try my luck elsewhere :)
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By priority so they know I’m interested now, and to get the fee waiver. But it says applications not complete by feb 1 are at a significant disadvantage. So that factor still applies
Ok, yea. I was asking because I'm in the same boat as you. I'm applying to USC but going to retake in February. I was also scoring in the high 160's during PT's but scored in the low 160's in the December LSAT.
A section in the application asks whether the LSAT score accurately reflects your potential as a law school student, and I took the opportunity there to let them know I will be retaking in February.
That beings said, I'm crossing my fingers and hoping for the best. Good luck to you!
I have a potential seat deposit due next month and still have not heard from some schools I applied to. Ideally, I'd like to know my standing at each school before submitting a seat deposit.
What's the latest standard date to expect a status notification from law schools or does it vary with each school? Thanks!
Are you planning on applying by the priority deadline or in April?
I would strongly suggest to keep on studying until you get a score that's in your preferred law schools percentile range. Another incentive for you is that a better LSAT score means better scholarship opportunities. Also, keep in mind that IF you were to transfer after 1L, some schools don't give financial aid to transfers.
23 is not too old, but I understand where you're coming from. If you do decide to take another year off, look at it positively. You have more time to study, spice up your resume by traveling or internships/jobs.
You can do it!
The stimulus tells us in order to get hired to testify you need:
P1. Know how to make convincing presentations
P2. Able to present steps clearly and confidently
C: some less expert authorities with convincing testimony testify rather than the skilled but less persuasive experts.
So, the principle is: sometimes the most skilled (A) person isn't selected, but rather the persuasive (B) one.
AC A conforms to this principle because it's basically saying that successful politicians can be seen as successful not because they know how to help their country (A -- not the most skilled), but because they know how to conduct an election campaign (B -- they are persuasive).
Hi guys, so I'm taking the December exam and currently I've been scoring between 165-169. My scores don't drop from that range, but aren't as consistent as I'd like. I'll be getting a 167 3x and then a 165 all of a sudden.
Any tips on how to get more consistent on my scoring? I'd love to be constantly getting a 168/169 prior to the exam.
This was a very tricky question, but I'll give it a shot in explaining.
P1: Lower numbered plastics most often recycled.
P1: Higher numbered plastics are rarely recycled.
Conclusion: Refusing to buy high numbered plastics ---> reduce amount of waste not recycled (AKA the high numbered plastics)
Answer C says that a lot of the higher numbered plastics were once lowered number plastics. So, a lot of the higher number plastics were already recycled, which means that refusing to buy high number plastics will not reduce the amount of waste that goes unrecycled ... because a low numbered plastic turns to a high numbered plastic.
In other words, the stimulus assumes that the higher numbered plastics were high numbered to begin with, so if one were to stop buying them then there would be less high numbered plastics that go without being recycled. Answer choice C disproves that assumption.
Kind of make sense?
Hi, I took the December LSAT and got a 162, when I was PTing in the 165-169 range. I'm also retaking in February in hopes of scoring in 165+.
Yes, you are supposed to ignore that possibility because the question is soley asking you which AC can be justified according to the statements above. In other words, we have to accept the reasoning of the AC's as stated, so long as they are supported by the stimulus.
The stimulus tells us:
Valid --> a legitimate offer is accepted
Reasonibly believe the offer was made in vest --> ^ legitimate
AC (E) is correct because:
^legitimate offer --> ^valid.
I understood E as saying that: Domestic wine sales can go up (because of the reduced price) while the competing imported wine sales do too (for any random reason).
Are there specific question types that you're continously getting wrong (ex: NA or Inferences)? If you pinpoint those, you can review that question type and drill them.
I saw the LSAC email and decided I'm not ready to check my score yet. All my applications are submitted, soooo the score doesn't really matter much at this point. Anyone else doing this LOL.
Hiii, I know you asked J.Y. but I figured I'd take a shot.
The question is basically asking us which AC is false according to the stimulus. Below is my thought process and how I approached this question --- I hope it helps you.
For the most part, you're right. Most of the AC's are irrelevant to the stimulus, which is why you can't really reject them.
Answer Choices:
(A) We can't reject this based on the stimulus because nothing in the stimulus addresses this. It could be true or false.
(B) We don't have enough information to know whethere this is true or not. So, we can't reject it.
(C) Again, this could or could not be true.
(D) Correct. This we can reject because Demosthenes was reading silently to himself. This is why his companion pressed him for information about what the oracle had written.
(E) We know that the prophecy in the stimulus was writte down on writing tablets, but we don't know if this was a rare occurence or not. So, we can't reject it.
Quitting your job to be able to dedicate more time on the LSAT sounds like a smart decision and I don't think it would make your resume look bad.
I do recommend you look for places to volunteer (a few hours a week) while you're unemployed, so that you can add that to your resume. More softs never hurt anyone.
My friend proctored for an accomodated LSAT where the test taker was pregnant and he mentioned she had it pretty nice. She was alone in the room, could take as many breaks as she wanted (bathroom/food breaks).
Having a quiet room to yourself means absolutely no distactions, so your focus is 100% on the exam and the additional breaks allow to you get a breather if you feel stressed in a section of the exam. I personally think it's to your advantage, so, if I were you, I'd take it.
Has anyone heard anything from USC?
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I took the September LSAT and decided to cancel and registered for the December one. I was scoring in the range of 165-168 before the December exam and felt pretty at ease. The night before the LSAT (Friday), I received news that my cousin had died. I still went to take the LSAT on Saturday morning, but I was filled with different emotions that day, so I can't really trust my hunch on how I did.
I know the scores won't be released until January, but I was wondering if I end up scoring below the range that I was scoring prior to the exam, should I write an LSAT Addendum?
Condolences for your loss.
That's rough. And I'm so sorry to hear it.
I think if you score below your average, you should absolutely consider writing an addenda. Circumstances like these are exactly what addenda are for.
Are you planning on retaking in February?
Thank you Alex.
I wasn't planning to retake it , because I didn't want to spend an additional LSAT fee -- but now I'm not sure. I really wanted to start school next fall 2018, and I'm not sure if a February exam will be too late.
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Absolutely. Your application reader WANT to know about factors like this that might be impacting your score. I am in a similar boat. If you want a reference for how to write one, I've pasted mine below. I had a law schools admissions consultant review it and say that it was great.
Also, I'm sorry to hear about your loss. :( That really sucks.
"Unusual circumstances impacting my LSAT score: My September LSAT score was affected by Hurricane Irma, which hit South and Central Florida, where my family and I reside, several days before my the test date took place. My testing center was not closed nor my test date postponed. My life routine was completely upturned (loss of electricity and Internet, people seeking shelter in my house, loss of sleep due to hurricane preparation, my study schedule halted, stress over the possibility of evacuation), and I was preoccupied by fear for the welfare of my aging parents, who had been evacuated to Atlanta from their home in South Florida. Please consider my September LSAT in light of these circumstances. I will be retaking the LSAT in December."
Thank you Nicolas, I really appreciate it. Do you think it'll make a difference if I don't retake it in February? Because this last Saturday (the December LSAT) would be my only score.
I was wondering if anyone would be interested in reading my Diveristy Statement and giving me some feedback? I'm happy to do the same.
I took the September LSAT and decided to cancel and registered for the December one. I was scoring in the range of 165-168 before the December exam and felt pretty at ease. The night before the LSAT (Friday), I received news that my cousin had died. I still went to take the LSAT on Saturday morning, but I was filled with different emotions that day, so I can't really trust my hunch on how I did.
I know the scores won't be released until January, but I was wondering if I end up scoring below the range that I was scoring prior to the exam, should I write an LSAT Addendum?
Check these out: https://www.discoverlaw.org/diversity/scholarships.asp
For my picture on my admission ticket, I have my hair down.
That being said, I can wear my hair in a pony tail right?
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Thanks you guys!