Also interested!

Interested!

interested!

I'd also love to join! I scored in the high 160s on my first administration, and shooting for 170+ in oct/nov.

Thank you so much for this!

Also another reason why C is not correct is that it just says the employee was part of the dialogue, but doesn't specify if the dialogue was non-threatening. Also, just because employees participated in the dialogue, doesn't mean they individually contributed to the development of the ideas- that is a nuance that B captures. This question is ultimately about the degree to which employees contributed rather than whether employees were part of the conversation generally or not.

From the many info sessions for schools I've listened in on and from the advice of adcoms I've read about- I believe it is advised to write a "why X" statement only if you actually have a meaningful reason. Don't write one with generic reasons ("nice campus, small class sizes, etc") , but if there is something about the school that draws you to them specifically, then by all means write it. I can't speak to whether adcoms hate reading them, I'm sure they'd love to read about legitimate reasons why you want to attend/ what's special about their school specifically and how that connects to you personally/ professionally. The Dean of Admissions at Duke said it's not necessary to include the why X statement (he specifically noted they admit many people who don't write one), but that if you do include it, it should be meaningful and not perfunctory.

I'm also interested!

One strategy that got me to -3 is skipping! When you see a stim that you just cant wrap your head around in the moment- immediately skip and come back. I've found that taking that time and then giving it a second look gives me a fresh perspective on it and I either get the question correct or at the very least can make an educated guess.

Do you have a good strategy you can apply consistently? For example, I saw a score increase when I consistently used the LSAT Trainer "reading for reasoning structure" method for each passage I encountered combined with 7sage's method.

If you have a good strategy, how are you doing mentally? Prior to my June exam I went from -3 range back to -10 (my diagnostic range) and it was because my anxiety was getting in the way. Focus is a pillar for excelling in RC, how do you feel while doing the sections?

Regardless, I recommend doing untimed sections until you're getting -0, then easing back into timed sections. You can even do sections with extra time and whittle it down (for ex: 55m per section, to 45, to 40, to 35) to practice speed while maintaining accuracy.

You're definitely not alone in experiencing RC fluctuations, you've got this!

@ thanks so much for the insight!

I'd be interested! I got a 167 in June and I'm aiming for 170+ in oct/nov

I agree with JMPlaw19- disclosing is highly unlikely to affect your app but if the Bar finds it later and you didn't disclose, that could call your character into question which could cause issues for when you apply for bar admission. Basically, odds of it hurting you now if you disclose are low, odds of it hurting you later when you didn't disclose and they find out are much bigger.

In past years, the rule of thumb has been the earlier you apply the better your chances, and the same could be true for this upcoming cycle (though I've heard theories they might hold out on offers early on to get a better sense of the applicant pool so schools can keep their new medians- I read this from another 7sager though so it is not confirmed, but an interesting theory). It also varies based on school (how their app process is run- for example YLS has a unique process) and who the other applicants are at any given point.

I think the best approach is to study as productively as you can and score the best you can in whichever administration you take. If you can get a score in January that is at/ above the median of whichever school you're trying to apply to, I don't see why you wouldn't have a decent chance (especially if everything else in your app is solid as well). However, it is important to note that though you may gain admission, scholarship money may be a bit more limited the later you apply.

Also, if you apply and don't get in, that does not affect your chances if you reapply. Multiple adcomms, from many top schools, have confirmed this. All they see on your app is a note saying you are a re-applicant, but they don't view that negatively and do not have the practice of looking at your previous app. Do the best you can in Jan- worst case you keep studying and get a top score to apply with early next year :)

How do they curve the exam when there are so many variations? Do they curve specific test variations based on the performance of those who took that variation or is there one overall curve?

I had LR-RC-LG-RC

I actually thought the LR was on the tougher side (not impossible, but I struggled a bit more than I'm used to), the first RC was so easy but the second I thought was tough. I'm really really hoping the first RC was the actual one and that the second was the experimental. The LG was fine, nothing crazy.

Good luck to everyone who us about to take it, and to everyone who has- congrats on finishing! :)

What I heard is you cancel if something out of your control caused a low score (ex: felt sick in the middle of the exam, some unavoidable distraction, etc.) Otherwise, it's better to provide more information than less. A low score + subsequent higher score provides more details than a C and a subsequent higher score. Again, this is what I've heard from tutors and what makes sense to me, but ultimately it's your decision!

You always have the addendum to explain your scores further, and remember most schools take your highest LSAT. I remember seeing a story on here of a person who took the exam 5 times and went to yale! Not sure if they canceled any scores or not, but the point is that you don't have to have a perfect LSAT journey to reach your goals, what matters is your end result.

Totally agree with thinklikealawyer! I went in expecting the checking in process to be 5 mins (As someone else mentioned was their experience) but mine took a full hour. No interruptions after, thankfully, but waiting definitely threw me off and i started to feel a bit hungry. If your proctor makes you wait, don't be afraid to ask to use the restroom before you begin if you need to! Saw that tip in an LSAT facebook group this morning and I did it today.

LR was typical, RC easier than I expected (as someone mentioned above, relative to how RC passages have been in the 80s exams), LG was a bit tough- took more time than I wanted on 2 of the games and I had to guess on the last couple questions. Overall, it didn't feel significantly harder than the PTs i've been doing. Usually RC is really tough for me and LG is pretty easy, but this time LG was a bit trickier and RC was not as hard (I thought)- so for anyone worried about how their performance may be in a particular section, you may be surprised so don't worry too much!

As someone alluded above, there was one game that was introduced in a way that I've never seen before, but I didn't let it throw me off- I was thinking about the super weird and tough LG games, where JY advises us to not lose our cool and read carefully. After explicitly thinking and doing this, it became much clearer and I didn't get unnerved! Skipped around on LG questions which I think was helpful here. Be prepared for the unexpected!

best of luck to everyone :)

Thanks!!

Hey! I took my lsat writing Wednesday, I showed my paper front and back as per protocol but I did not rip it up on screen, and my submission was approved within 10 hours!

I am wondering the same thing as you about the flex. I read the same thing, I'm assuming we can ask the proctor at the end to be safe?

I have faced a lot of parental and external pressure when it comes to this exam, and I am so sorry you're experiencing that too. This test is tough and will be challenging in many ways. One big mistake I made was that I did too much too quickly (I was studying 6+ hours a day for 3 months) and I was so burnt out in the end that I took a few months off and postponed my exam multiple times. My parents were berating me every step of the way, which didn't help with the pressure and heightened my anxiety. But taking this test on my own timeline was the best thing I did. Taking it when I was ready and not when it was expected of me is a choice I do not regret at all. My diagnostic was 147 and with about a year of studying I got a 167 on my first take. I am now studying again for 170+ to take in Oct/Nov. Like nomomnom said, this test is all skill building and that looks different for each person. Parents and people who do not take the LSAT don't understand how difficult and long the process can be. That being said, study effectively to the best of your ability (# of hours does not necessarily indicate higher score- these ideas can take time to marinate so rest is important too) and you will see improvement for sure! Don't beat yourself up if you don't see a smooth upward trend in score, my analytics is a zig zag of scores that has slowly but steadily increased. Also, be flexible with the date. Take the exam when you're ready/ scoring close to or at the range you want. Also- if your mental health is triggered by this exam, incorporate meditation/ mindfulness into your routine and work on your relationship with the exam. Mindset plays a big role in your score, and developing a strong one is just as important as getting the mechanical skills down.

Right now, I recommend that you focus on the fundamentals and do everything untimed. Once you can get all the questions (or nearly all) correct in a section, move on to timed. Accuracy > speed is the key to strong fundamentals and consistent success in my opinion. Fool proofing LG is a great way to catapult your score in the beginning, supplementing that with consistent practice and review in LR and RC should get you into the 160s.

Everything will be ok! You've got this :)

I knocked B out when applying the negation test. Negated, B says: the capacities of astronauts are NOT typical of those of ordinary human beings.

The stim says that the space station is essential so they can test the "limits of human capacities to live in space" - aka astronauts, not just humans generally. The capacities that humans have to survive in space is on a spectrum- from not being able to survive at all, to being able to survive. We would think/ hope that the capacities of astronauts would not be typical of the average human- they need to be greater to withstand the challenges they will face outside earth.

So when applying the negation to the stim, it doesn't wreck the argument. Negated B just says astronauts' ability to survive is atypical of that of ordinary human beings.

I initially chose B and then chose A on BR, this was my reasoning. Hope this makes sense!

I scored 167 in June 2021 and it was within the 93 percentile then and still is now!

Congrats!!

I took June 2021 and I complete my writing about a week before my exam date. My sample was approved and posted on LSAC within 12 hours.

I recommend doing the practice run-through on LSAC, it's a simulation that shows you exactly how the official administration will look/feel like. Also- don't forget to show both sides of your scrap paper during room check and follow all other rules so your session won't be flagged.

If you do it after you take the exam, do it soon after just to be on the safe side. I think when people get their sessions approved is based on the volume of who takes it at any given time in the test taking window, which you can't be sure of, so get it done as soon as you can. I was nervous about the writing sample but it was very low stress, so don't worry too much about it. Good luck!