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PT123.S2.Q3
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jaranda503
Thursday, Mar 30 2017

I initially chose A and even then A felt wrong. What logically seems to follow with this question would be: People would look back on past events of the century. That follows. Really no answer stem make any sense to me. D brings up people being interested. The premise mentions nothing about people being interested. It just says people are looking back on their lives, nothing positive, nothing negative, and thats why D and E don't work in my opinion.

Can someone walk me through whats wrong with this line of reasoning?

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Friday, Apr 28 2017

Awesome thank you

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Friday, Apr 28 2017

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Causation in Relation to Weaken/Strengthen

So I’m really struggling with these causation questions, not because I'm getting the wrong answer, but because I’m confused about Causation strategy, and when to use it. So I have 2 questions.

1st one is, When approaching general weakening/strengthening questions, that are not causal, we approach these with the strategies JY has laid out for us, in those lessons, and not as a causation question, correct? Is there an easy way to tell the difference between general weakening strengthening/weakening questions? What tips would you recommend?

2nd question is, I'm having trouble in applying the causation strategy to questions. I just did the Synesthesiacs question, under the Causation questions in the syllabus (LSAT Preptest 34, Section 2, Question 12). I asked this in the question just now, but I'm hoping I'll get more replies here.

So I hovered over A and B. A to me felt like it most weakened it, and I wanted to pick it, but to me it didn’t really feel like I was following the structure of how to attack these. In it, this question introduces a data set, in the form of research, with some people. Don’t know if I should have construed that as co-incidence or correlation, since some is kinda vague, so I went with Correlation. Since it’s a data set, I looked for an answer that introduces a competing data set. And B was the only one. B didn’t really seem like it weakened it, but hey, I followed the structure (or did I?). If I had followed the Co-incidence rules, then I would have arrived at A, since it is a competing explanation. Is that where I screwed up?

If not, could someone please clarify for me what I’m doing wrong. Do I follow this strategy down to a T? It feels like when I go off intuition I do better, but I don’t want to rely on that.

Thank you

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jaranda503
Friday, May 26 2017

Good to know. My second question is, what should the ratio of professional/academic letters look like. I'm allowed to have 4 total for the University I'm aiming for. 2 Professional and 2 Academic, or could it easily be 3 Professional and 1 Academic?

Thank you

So I finished University back in 2012. I doubt any of my professors remember me, and even if they were able and willing, they couldn't give an honest account of me. I finished my Masters back in 2016, I have a Professor who says she'll write me a letter of recommendation, and she does remember me. I'm afraid her letter won't mean much because it doesn't seem anything that isn't your bachelors really matters? What should I do? I know I could get 2 letters of Reccomendation from my Masters program but I'm scared it won't be worth anything.

Thank you guys for your insight

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jaranda503
Monday, Apr 17 2017

I have a Journal that I use. I mostly just take notes from the lessons on here. I divided it up by Logical Reasoning, Logic Games and Reading Comp. I've found it's helped me, because I can go back and review my notes on a certain topic, and I know where to find it quickly instead of having to go through the lessons to find it.

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jaranda503
Monday, May 15 2017

I went ahead and changed the date. LSAC said there was a "small fee" to change the date, that ended up being $100....but whatever, it's switched.

Others have given similar advice, so I'll hold off on doing anymore PT's until I'm done with the CC. Thank you for the advice.

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jaranda503
Monday, May 15 2017

That's what I was hoping for. I just wanted to confirm. Thank you

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Monday, May 15 2017

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GPA from two different Schools

My question is on what Law Schools will they be looking at GPA from? I went to a community college to get my Associates and then finished the other two years at a University. My grades at University were not as good as they were at Community College. At community College I finished with I believe around a 3.45 GPA, and at University with a 2.88 GPA. That averaged to about a 3.25. I'm hoping Law Schools will look at that 3.25, and count Community College, as that was work towards my Bachelors and that was about 80 credits. I don't see why they wouldn't look at that. My University Transcripts show some of Community College classes but they don't show the GPA, they indicate it as 0.0, meaning they're not counting that towards that University's GPA.

So what can I expect they'll look at?

Thank you

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jaranda503
Monday, May 15 2017

I'm sorry I meant that 155-160 is my goal score. I'm not PTing there just yet. I'm in the mid 140's. I haven't finished the CC yet, which is just more reason to postpone. I'm just getting ready to finish the LR portion of the CC.

I'd really like to take my time and learn LG, right, instead of rushing.

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jaranda503
Monday, May 15 2017

That's my thought as well. I'd rather feel confident going in. Thank you for your input.

June will be the first time I'm taking it. I'm shooting for 155-160, but I'll be happy with 150. Been PTing around 144. Haven't even started studying for Logic Games, but I figured I'd do that now and in between then. But the window to postpone and switch is quickly closing. I'd rather have one good score, than 2 scores. Someone said it's better to not have all your eggs in one basket, like if I were to just do September, but I also don't want to go in and do poorly and it reflect badly on me, when I apply this fall.

What should I do?

Thank you

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jaranda503
Thursday, Apr 13 2017

Been doing the flashcards and the questions/answers for this section and I have been getting them right, and my translations have been matching the original statement.

Thank you guys so much for the help!

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Thursday, Apr 13 2017

I thought I understood what you guys were saying, but I guess I'm not, because I'm still winding up with the same problem. Example:

Without physical exercise, health deteriorates.

PE>HD

If there is physical exercise, then health deteriorates.

I took out without, and made it a if/then statement, but it still doesn't translate back into my original...

Edit: Watching JY's explanation, he's saying you take out the without, which is what I did, but I guess I didn't realize you keep that negation, and not make it a positive. So you're not including the Group 3 indicator with the negation...am I understanding that right? Because then I get

/PE > HD

If there is no physical exercise, then health deteriorates, which makes sense with the original statement.

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jaranda503
Thursday, Apr 13 2017

I see what you guys are saying. Thank you so much for clearing that up for me.

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Thursday, Apr 13 2017

So I am diagramming it right, but its useless unless I pull the right meaning from it.

Based off what you're saying, I need to shift my tense. But I guess the thing I'm struggling with is it doesn't make sense in my head unless I negate them both, like we were doing for Group 1/2 indicators. Take for instance.

Following the Group 3 Indicator Rules

Steak is not good without salt.

SG>/S

Steak is good without salt.

Makes no sense because it doesn't match the original meaning. But, if I negate the necessary as well, then it makes sense again

SG>S

Steak is good with salt, which is the original statement...

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Wednesday, Apr 12 2017

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Group 3 Logical Indicators problems

Just started Group 3 Logical Indicators, and I'm confused. I'm not confused about the process (or at least I don't think I am). With Group 3 Indicators, you pick an idea, negate it and make it the sufficient indicator. I'm going through the flashcards, and when I'm applying the rule, it's not making any logical sense. I'm getting the correct answer, but translating it back into English, makes no sense to me. Here's my logic for some of them:

Add pennies until I tell you to stop.

/P > S

Do not add pennies until I tell you to stop

Logically doesn't match or make sense with original statement.

There is no point unless we win

P > W

There is point unless we win

Logically doesn't match or make sense with original statement

Sing until the cows return

/S > CR

Don't sing until the cows return.

Logically doesn't match or make sense with original statement.

I know I"m doing something wrong. I don't know if I"m properly picking the binary opposite, or what I'm doing wrong. Please someone walk me through it.

Thank you

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jaranda503
Thursday, May 11 2017

Keep it up. Don't let a few bad PT's get you down. I had a bad PT this weekend. I went up in score, but not by alot. Just keep pumping them out, we all have our bad days.

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jaranda503
Wednesday, May 10 2017

Thank you guys for the help. I certainly do appreciate it. I'm going to do what I can to finish the curriculum. I started Mid-March and thought I could finish the CC by May and work on practice tests. I was wrong. Gonna do what I can in June and aim for September being my main shot at this.

Thank you guys

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jaranda503
Wednesday, May 10 2017

Oh yeah, its not my goal to aim so low. My ideal would be for a 160. I just would like to avoid doing September, if at all possible, but it's quickly looking like I'll have to. I"m already registered for June. I really would like to aim for my potential, but right now, all I'm worried about is getting in and with the scores I'm getting, I won't be. But I'm only 2 PT's in, and 3 months into studying the curriculum. I'm almost done with LR, then moving on to LG really quickly.

Thank you guys

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Wednesday, May 10 2017

jaranda503

Minimum Scores needed to get a 150 or 155

Hello, I know this seems like a weird question, but I can't find much anywhere else. I'm planning on attending a local Law School, and their median scores they take are around 150-155. I know I'm not shooting for the stars here, and these are dismal scores to most of you. I'm about 3 months into studying, my latest score was a 144. I'm getting about --13 on LR, -15 on LG, -12.5 on RC. What would those scores need to be at to achieve a 150 and a 155? Meaning does it need to be -10 LR, -13 LG, and -10 on RC, or however that figures out to? I'm just trying to decide if it's realistic to hit that mark before June, or if I'm needing to do September as well

Thank you

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jaranda503
Monday, May 01 2017

Awesome thank you so much for your explanation, that did help.

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