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Hi!

I am an undergraduate student from Atlantic Canada. And I came across the grade conversion table on LSAC's website. My universities approach to allocating letter grades to ranges of numeric grades is very different from the one shown in that table. And I am pretty sure that my transcript will have both numeric and letter grades. In calculating GPA, our university goes by letter grades. I was wondering, in a transcript with both numeric and letter grades, will LSAC give preference to the letter grades in calculating my GPA or will it use its own numerical analysis for determining letter grades?

It would mean a lot to me if someone could point me in the right direction because I am somewhat scared that the discrepancy between how my university handles grades vs. how LSAC does might ruin my chances of getting into my choice of schools. :(

Regards,

Eeshan

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jerryguitarist318
Saturday, Sep 23 2017

@ said:

LOVE your mindset, brother. That's the exact mindset one needs to achieve such an awesome score. I'll tell you what, if you get a 173+ and have a 3.8+ GPA, I bet you almost anything you will gain admission to one of HYS and likely 2 of CCN. You'll get $$$ below that at the rest of the T13.

Keep grinding and if it takes 2 years but ultimately you gain admissions to your dream schools, it will be all worth it.

Best of luck!

Thanks! :) I look forward to finishing the core curriculum. So far I'm loving 7Sage, the community is amazing! I think I'm gonna upgrade to Ultimate+ fairly soon! I'll definitely be posting updates on the forum as I complete certain milestones. Best of luck to you as well!

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jerryguitarist318
Saturday, Sep 23 2017

@: Ah, that's good to hear because I have been worried about the prestige factor for my University. :) Well, about maximizing my GPA, I hope to graduate with a GPA between 3.8-3.85. I don't think it can be less than 3.8, can definitely be more though!

@: Well, my target score is 180! But that doesn't stem from over-confidence, its just a psychological thing with me. I like to aim high so that even if I fall short, I'm still doing good (my dad's analogy, aim for the stars, if you fall, try and grab a cloud on your way down, haha). I wouldn't take the test till I am consistently scoring 173+ on PTs. And anything under 173, I would definitely retake. Not sure how realistic these goals are, just got started! I think its fair to say that I am aiming for at least 173, I think if I take a year or two years of consistent prep, nothing is impossible! :)

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jerryguitarist318
Friday, Sep 22 2017

@: Mainly, is that a good thing that I have average softs? Are any of these softs particularly weak? Assuming I hit my LSAT target score, would the fact that I did not go to a prestigious university have a detrimental impact on my application? How much would these softs help?

I am beginning to wonder what kind of impact my extracurricular activities might have on my law school applications next year. (Definitely hoping to apply to HYS, Columbia, NYU and UChicago, plus University of Toronto and Osgoode Hall in Canada).

So far, here's what my profile looks like (for context):

  • Major: Computer Science, Minors: Psychology and Classics. 3.75 GPA right now, 3.80-3.85 is definitely on the horizon. I just started 3rd year.
  • I just got started with the LSAT so don't know how that will go yet. I don't mind putting in a year of prep to hit the score I need though (or even 2 years, I'm not in a rush).
  • Would the following help in compensating for the lack of a prestigious undergrad degree? (I am at one of the lower ranked universities in Canada because I couldn't afford to go anywhere else):

  • I did Google's Summer of Code internship.
  • I currently work remotely for a tech company called Zulip (based in California)
  • I've contributed (as a volunteer) to various open source software projects for the last 5 years
  • I worked at an Atlantic Canadian law firm over the summer.
  • I have worked a bunch of odd jobs all throughout school. I worked all throughout school (didn't have a choice). Still do!
  • Participating in my first National Mooting competition in Canada in November
  • Would really appreciate advice and guidance from former applicants and people in the process of applying to law schools! :)

    Thanks!

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    jerryguitarist318
    Tuesday, Nov 21 2017

    @: Yeah I know that UofT does, and that might honestly get me accepted because my grades have a clear upwards trend. Let's see how it goes! :) For now its time to ace the LSAT! Good luck and thanks! :)

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    jerryguitarist318
    Sunday, Nov 19 2017

    @ I have no idea actually, sorry. I haven't applied yet. I just called the OLSAS customer help line and they explained to me how to calculate it using the table which is how the OLSAS app on Android calculates it. :)

    @ Thanks so much! Oh I hope so that's the case with me too! The messed up part is that if that is true and they only take my letter grades, I'll have a better chance at Harvard and Stanford than at the University of Toronto in terms of GPA. When it comes to GPA, Ontario law schools are ridiculously hard to get into and have a GPA median that beats Harvard and Stanford and rivals Yale! The acceptance rate at UofT is 9% the last time I checked, which is the same as Yale!!!!

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    jerryguitarist318
    Sunday, Nov 19 2017

    @ Thanks so much! I hope it is honestly because UofT has been my dream school for years. :)

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    jerryguitarist318
    Sunday, Nov 19 2017

    @: UBC has been on my mind for a bit now honestly! And I think I'll definitely apply (also, I love Vancouver). Thanks for your help! At the end of the day, I hope that being a better lawyer and having excellent grades matters more to Bay St. (which is where I would practice at least for some time) than what school you went to! :/

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    jerryguitarist318
    Sunday, Nov 19 2017

    @: Its so messed up honestly. I have a 3.8 at my school according to their grade conversion but I didn't find out about OLSAS until recently and learned that my 3.8 goes down to 3.65 on the OLSAS scale. I still have a year and a half of university left to make up for it but its a big drop in numbers that would ruin my chances at even Osgoode and University of Toronto, let alone HYS. University of Toronto was (ans still is) my top choice for Canada, Osgoode being a close second! Say if I have a 3.7 on the OLSAS scale (a worst case scenario), I'll have to have a jaw dropping LSAT in order to compensate for my GPA. I'm not too worried about the LSAT, I'm pretty obsessive and probably won't sleep till I get my target score, but still my OLSAS GPA broke my fragile little heart! :(

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    jerryguitarist318
    Friday, Nov 17 2017

    @ I used that tool yes. The problem is my transcript reports both numerical percentages and letter grades so I am just worried because if they take my numerical percentages, my GPA might be lower, but if they take the letter grade, it will be higher. :/

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    jerryguitarist318
    Sunday, Sep 17 2017

    Thanks for all the encouragement everyone! I really appreciate it! :)

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    jerryguitarist318
    Thursday, Nov 16 2017

    @ Ah okay, makes sense! I am aware of the OLSAS table. I just found out that according to that table, my GPA is a bit lower than what my university (I'm from Atlantic Canada) calculates. So I am just terrified of how LSAC will calculate it. :neutral: Thanks, though, I appreciate your help! :)

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    Thursday, Nov 16 2017

    jerryguitarist318

    Canadian GPA to LSAC GPA conversions?

    As most Canadian applicants have probably heard of before, Canadian GPA conversions from percentages to letter grades are quite different from LSAC's conversion standards. I was wondering if any Canadian applicants here know whether their GPA was calculated based on letter grades or percentages? Thanks! :)

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    jerryguitarist318
    Saturday, Sep 16 2017

    @ Cool! Thanks for the advice! I really don't mind taking a year to put in the work needed. I look forward to learning from everyone here! :)

    This was my first week with 7sage. I read that the BR score is used to indicate room for improvement whereas the timed score is used to indicate performance under time pressure. And a scary question popped into my head, is 163 my ceiling i.e. will I never break 170 or above? I know the question sounds stupid, but I am totally new to the 7sage and the LSAT in general and I just got worried. :( I plan on upgrading to the Ultmate+ course. I am only in third year and have lots of time to wait and prep.

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    jerryguitarist318
    Thursday, Sep 14 2017

    @: Awesome! Thanks so much for your advice! I really appreciate it! :)

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    Wednesday, Sep 13 2017

    jerryguitarist318

    Blind review right after PT or the next day?

    Hi! My name is Eeshan Garg. Third-year undergraduate (major: Computer Science, minors: English, Psychology) in Canada. Born and raised in India. Hoping to take the LSAT next summer and apply to Canadian and US law schools after! :) In University, I am involved with the CS Society and our Mooting Society. And I work remotely (part-time) for a tech company in California. I look forward to learning from all of my fellow 7sagers/future attorneys. ;)

    I am about to take the June 2007 diagnostic and I had a couple of questions about blind review:

    Is it imperative that I do the Blind Review the same day as I took the test (right after I finish)? Would Blind Reviewing the day after I took the test be detrimental to my overall improvement in any way? I have a full course load in school + demanding part time job + 7Sage, so I am pressed for time and its a bit hard to spare 6-9 hours a day for a full-length PT and BR session.

    Also, after I have circled the questions that I am not 100% certain about, should I BR those questions on a fresh copy of the PT or on the same one that I took? What about the ones that I skipped?

    I apologize if these questions have already been answered. I did a quick search on the forums and Google before posting but didn't find any satisfactory answers. It could very well be that I didn't look in the right place or maybe I am not familiar with the forums as much since I am new to 7sage. If this is a complete duplicate, it would be awesome if someone could please point me to the relevant discussion. :)

    Thanks!

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    jerryguitarist318
    Monday, Oct 02 2017

    @ Awesome, thanks so much! Getting paid in a couple of days, so I'll email you when I make the upgrade! :)

    Hey everyone! Loving 7sage so far! My Starter access expires on Oct. 15. I bought the Starter because I wanted to try out the course before I committed to Ultimate+. I have (of course!) decided that I love 7sage and would love to get the Ultimate+ course. I have a couple of questions though:

    Is it better (read cheaper!) to upgrade and add-on more months after or should I just let this one expire and buy Ultimate+ outright with 18 months of access? I definitely want to get a great score and would like to put in at least a year of dedicated prep, so I would need more than the 3 months of additional access that you get when you upgrade.

    If I buy Ultimate+ outright or upgrade to it, will the history of work I did in Starter still be preserved?

    Looking forward to learning from and giving back to this amazing community!

    Thanks!

    -Eeshan

    [Admin note: Ultimate+ includes 12 months now]

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