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Any idea why the Questions Table section of the Analytics pages says "No LSAT PrepTests scored yet. Score some LSAT PrepTests to see analytics on this page." right below the list of my 29 completed and scored PrepTests?
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jilliankirkland819
Friday, Jun 28 2024
Check out this thread- they posted cheat sheets with valid and invalid arguments that might be helpful
https://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/32892/cheatsheet-for-valid-argument-forms-1-9
jilliankirkland819
Friday, Jun 28 2024
For the last month or so I've been underlining the main conclusion in every stimulus, initially because I was bad at identifying conclusions, so I did that until I got it every single time. But I've also realized how much it helps me with assumptions, MBT, and strengthen/weaken questions so I'm still doing it. Those types of questions often have trick answers that are related to the premise or conclusion but don't really address the relationship between them in the appropriate way. So if you miss the conclusion in an argument there are many ways to get lost in the answers, and having the main conclusion underlined helps me to quickly look back at the premises and conclusion to find the gaps or whatever the question calls for.
jilliankirkland819
Friday, Jun 28 2024
How far are you from the score you want to apply with, and how much progress have you made from where you started? If you're at a 172 and want a 180 but aren't in any rush to apply, that's a very different situation than wanting to apply asap but only increasing from, say, 150 to 160 after two years.
Also, have you looked through many of the questions on the PowerScore forum? I have paid monthly subscriptions to three different platforms and still use the PS forum every day. I've taken over 30 PTs and reviewed every question with their forum, and I've maybe come across 3 questions total that didn't have very detailed explanations. The forum has been up since at least 2011 so the ones they didn't post an explanation for initially, they've since posted multiple explanations for as people have asked questions over time. It's also one of the only places (and by far the best one) where you can get such detailed help with reasoning through the questions at no cost. They give you a series of questions to answer about how you got to the answer you're confused about, and if you provide them with that info they will help you through whatever question you ask about. I would suggest you look at it again if you haven't recently. That has been the biggest game changer for me and I'm personally convinced it's the reason I've been about to increase by 22+ points in two months on my own.
I think at this point, though, you might need to take a closer look at the specific mistakes you're not able to stop repeating and course-correct based on what your issues are exactly. After that amount of time with the material in full courses and tutoring, it's very unlikely you will be able to take someone else's solution and plug it into your brain to just start scoring higher. You've invested so much time and money into this that you want to make sure you don't take the same mistakes to a different program just to end up in the same place. If you haven't already, try a week off. You will survive it, and it might help you come back with the clarity you need to tackle this stuff at your best and with more clarity :) I hope you find what works for you and hang in there. You've got this.
jilliankirkland819
Saturday, Oct 26 2024
Can you clarify the arguments? It looks like you're asking for examples of missing assumptions that link a single variable (premise) to one of two totally different variables in the conclusions of these two arguments:
P: B
C: A --> C
P: A
C: B --> C
jilliankirkland819
Sunday, Jun 23 2024
I wouldn't worry about the PT test scores at this point. Unless you're confident that you know what the test is asking for in any which way it's asked, your PT scores won't reflect your actual ability. My scores went up by 15+ points in just the first two weeks after I realized that I really didn't understand what the questions were asking me to do. You may be like I was in the beginning— looking at the PTs you've taken, and after reviewing the questions in detail, you see why the correct answer is correct but don't have any confidence that you'd answer it differently if you had to do it again. Don't burn through more of the PTs until you're certain that you understand how to answer these questions.
I would first go through the lessons and get super clear on the type of answer you need to find and when, and why certain wrong answers are wrong for certain questions. Practice with one section at a time instead of entire PTs, then review all of the questions (those you got right and those you got wrong) and learn why each answer choice is or isn't correct. There are several sites that give free detailed explanations for every question on every PT. I use two in addition to 7Sage for every single question I review because it often takes that many different ways of explaining it to come across one that clicks. You'll find what works for you as you go along.
Along the way you can pick back up with the PTs once you see that the questions you're missing in the practice sections are very specific, correctable mistakes such as missing strong language in the stimulus or misreading and answer choice. But if, when you're reviewing, you think to yourself "ok that answer makes sense as the correct answer but exactly what the question was asking for wasn't that obvious to me," then you need to work on whatever that is until that is not the reason you got something wrong. Hope this helps :)
jilliankirkland819
Sunday, Jun 23 2024
Reading how you thought through the answer choices, it seems you're looking for any and all gaps in the argument, but this question isn't asking you to do that (and trust that test writers will throw in answer choices to trip up those who don't understand the specific task).
In the way we commonly speak, we use the words imply and infer interchangeably but the LSAT does not. On the LSAT, an inference is something that must be true. So if you start to think of where the speaker might be going with their argument, you will probably pick an answer that could be true given what was actually said but isn’t necessarily true. For this question, the correct answer can do one of only two things: either restate some facts given in the passage, or combine facts to state something that must be true if all the other claims in the argument are true. I hope this helps :)
jilliankirkland819
Sunday, Jun 23 2024
When you click on the PrepTest you want to take from the list, it then opens the start screen where you'll see buttons for each section. Click on the dropdown menu to the right of the PT# and select "August 2024 3-Section LSAT (LR, LR, RC)" so when you score the test at the end, it will score it without the LG section.
jilliankirkland819
Saturday, Jun 22 2024
To put simply, background or contextual information is something that is not a premise (because it doesn’t support a conclusion) and is not a conclusion. That means it could be contextual if it elaborates on a premise or conclusion, or not (i.e. it could be related to the general subject of the argument but won’t actually clarify or lead into any structural part of it).
jilliankirkland819
Saturday, Jun 22 2024
That’s the PrepTest page, I’m asking about the Analytics page, Questions Table section. Is there any way for me to share a screenshot?
jilliankirkland819
Saturday, Sep 21 2024
https://forum.powerscore.com/viewtopic.php?f=702&t=3786
jilliankirkland819
Thursday, Jun 20 2024
Assuming you’re able to identify a conclusion from at least one other premise provided, ask yourself “why does the author want me to believe this?” about that conclusion. If you can answer that with “because (insert possible premise,” then that piece of information is doing something to support the conclusion. If it doesn’t make the conclusion more believable, even in some small way, then it’s likely just there to set the scene for the actual argument.
Remember that intermediate/sub-conclusions are just premises for another conclusion, so this method can also help you identify those. If you have trouble figuring out which one is the main conclusion and which is the sub-conclusion, try the question above two different ways: one time with one of them as the conclusion, then another time with that same conclusion as the premise. Read it both ways and see which way makes the most sense and in that case, the “because” will be the sub-conclusion and whatever offers proof for believing is the main conclusion.
Argument parts were very difficult for me to identify when I was brand new at this. I got the first 10 Actual Preptest books (the one with test #s below 18) and did days of practice where I’d put a post-it note over the questions and answer choices, and just identify and underline the conclusions in each stimulus. I also practiced the same way but with just reading the stimulus, then covering it up and writing down what I remember or how I would summarize it. You can also use a 10 Actual book and the post-it note thing to practice prephrasing/predicting answers. I did all of those and immediately noticed that LR seemed way easier from that point forward. I also found that once I was able to identify the conclusions consistently, questions about the other argument parts or structure were also more intuitive.
Hope that helps :)
jilliankirkland819
Monday, Sep 16 2024
your prephrase for those should describe what a correct answer would do for the argument
jilliankirkland819
Saturday, Oct 12 2024
Create a drill with all questions from that section
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Question about the practical usage of knowing the subject, verb, and object of a sentence.
jilliankirkland819
Saturday, Oct 12 2024
Or is this information that we can draw upon when sentences get tough and are not sure what the sentence even means?
I think you nailed it here! I’ve been studying now for five months and go back to the grammar lessons every month or so for a refresher. You won’t ever find yourself slowing down to identify verbs and such in a PT or drill, but if you’re so familiar with sentence parts that knowing them is just natural, it’s a huge asset in how well you understand a stimulus or passage on first read. The difference between 1 and 5 star questions isn’t about the question or answer choices, it’s the more complicated stimulus or passage language, structure, assumptions or inferences they require you to work with. If the language is complicated you may miss all of the other parts because you didn’t know which subject they were referencing, or who did what. You’ll sometimes see question explanation videos specifically mention the sentence parts of complex, long, or referential sentences when breaking it up would make it easier to understand or is critical to unlocking what the author assumes but doesn’t explicitly state.
jilliankirkland819
Wednesday, Oct 09 2024
Me too please!!!
jilliankirkland819
Thursday, Mar 06
It's confusing that they call them experimental instead of "unscored" because it sounds like they're less relevant to content you can expect to see on a real test when that's not the case. When LSAC dropped logic games last summer, they replaced that section in PTs 1-94 with one LR or RC section from another PT, then renumbered the new 4-section combos as 101-158.
This chart shows where sections from old PTs fit into the new PT numbering system: https://lsat.magoosh.com/lsat-preptests-mapping-guide . For example, three LR and RC sections from old PT50 were added as an unscored section in each of the new PT#s 128, 129, and 130. You could combine those three sections and score it with the scale for old PT50 to get another scaled score. This chart has the grading scales for all new and old PTs: https://classic.7sage.com/lsat-score-percentile-conversion/#:~:text=Note%20that%20the,on%20that%20PrepTest
jilliankirkland819
Friday, Oct 04 2024
there's a blog post on Tags: https://classic.7sage.com/new-lr-tags-in-7sage/
jilliankirkland819
Thursday, May 02 2024
is there a mapping guide that shows the actual order of the sections in the new PTs?
jilliankirkland819
Thursday, May 02 2024
LR Perfection by Dragon Test Prep is tedious but a total game changer because it focuses only on the most difficult questions with the idea that if you dissect those first you and learn the logical errors you make when you get them wrong. I’m a few days into it and it makes so much sense to me now that wish I hadn’t spent money on other sites and books that teach on question types, what words to look for, etc. If you have a basic understanding of argument structure and are around or above this high 150s, that stuff won’t take you much higher.
Using LSAT Demon I was up 16pts in 2 weeks from my first diagnostic but it was still 10pts from where I need to be and quick. I was afraid hours a day of practice would mean running out of questions to drill on, and I wasn’t sure I was actually breaking my bad habits since my wrong answers were in so many different question types. I read the explanations and watched videos to understand why each correct answer was correct and why the wrong answers were wrong, but those other methods weren’t addressing the reasons WHY I chose a particular wrong answer. I could see how to track that by keeping a Wrong Answer Journal, but that wasn’t going to help me unless someone could point me to questions that those same traps (which has surprisingly little to do with question categories, because it’s more about the answer choices and critical thinking required to put it together). Just drilling and drilling and taking more practice tests hoping for a better score each time. I wanted to know exactly what I need to get better at, and also see that the hours a day I'm practicing are making progress on those specific things. But it seemed I was paying $200/mo for an algorithm that gave me a random number score (which in videos the founder admits he doesn't understand, can't explain, and tells users to ignore) but no evidence I was actually improving my thinking.
So last week I got the Dragon book. It breaks down the the toughest LR questions and addresses the traps they present by organizing them by Difficult Traits, such as "The stimulus contains a trap statement which sounds like the author's main point but there's no premise to support it" or "wrong answer choices are ideas that the author would probably agree with, but aren't the main conclusion of the argument." If you've read this far then you're searching for the same thing I was and just realized that this book is it. Go get it now. And don't be intimidated by how beastly it looks (due to lower-budget publishing, lack of formatting or visual separation on pages, etc). I made it through 80 something pages the first sitting and can’t wait to keep going. When I finish this book I’ll get after their RC Perfection too.
FWIW, I’m not in any way affiliated with this book and don’t stand to gain anything by recommending it other than karma points. I’m just now doing this LSAT stuff at age 38 and don’t have a lot of time to waste so I’m super intentional about my investment of time and financial resources to get to my goal. Hope it helps!
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