Hello7sagers,

I have been experiencing slight anxiety around taking full length practice tests. I can take a full section ..maybe even two timed full sections in a day and it feel fine. However, when I sit down for a full length test I get so much text anxiety that it makes me want to just stop with my entire test. I don't feel ready, but I know that one full test a week along with timed sections throughout the week..of course with thorough review is the way that I will get better. Is there any advice you all have on how to overcome this?

Hello 7Sagers,

I was wondering if anyone could help me clear up some fogginess im experiencing while drilling LR?

So i am aware i must understand what the stimulus is saying as well as be able to identify the conclusion and premises. However, im having the hardest time retaining the information when i get to the answer choices. I know what the stimulus is saying most of the time and i go to the answer choices with confidence. However, i notice i am begining to get problems wrong that have more condeluded stimuli.

How do i keep the conclusion and premises in my head clear while trying out different answer choices? I feel i get what the premises and conclusion is for the stimulus but when i try to recall it i have to say it a couple of times to remember it so i wont forget when moving to the answer choices.

What do you all do?

Hello 7Sagers!

I am wondering if someone could give me advice about what they think is the most efficient way to retain and review lR material. I want to create something that I can review everyday and that in the end will help me put all of the pieces together. So far I have been writing notes from all of my lessons, and then I rewrite them to make them look neater. I want to kind of create a cheat sheet for all of the things I am learning in the LR section.For example: I have a sheet on MBT questions. Am I doing too much? Is there a better way?

Hey 7sagers!

I was just wondering if anyone had any tips on how to really understand sufficient and necessary assumption questions . I get what they are supposed to do but I can’t seem to seem the arguments as valid with the correct answer choice for example :the steps I take with the sufficient assumptions is

1.read the question stem

2. Find the con. And premises

3. Try to find the flaw in between the premises and con.

4. Then look for what I think it is in the answer choice .

I’m not sure if this is the best way or not especially for necessary assumption . Are there any other ways I can think about this ? With necessary assumptions I follow all steps except I am not confident when going down to the answer choices .

I’m wondering how do I look at this differently ? Should I take an answer choice one by one with the other premises and see if it sounds correct ? I know it’s supposed to fill the gap but I guess I’m not seeing it fully.

Thanks !

Hello 7sagers,

I was wondering if anyone had any tips on how to increase your speed on the logic reasoning test portion. I have been studying this section rigorously for months and it is my favorite section . However, even though I understand and can get the correct answer each time untimed I still have yet to master getting 15 correct on the timed section . Any advice ? I'm not sure if I'm nervous or if there is something I can do to help bridge the gap between me taking forever to realize I know the steps .

Hey ! . I had a moment today while studying and I just wanted to seek some more advice . So I am currently still learning logic reasoning by question type. I’ve completed mbt, mss, strength and weaken questions . Yesterday as I practiced my untimed strengthen questions I scored 14/16 . Feeling on top of the world I said it’s time to do a mixed review timed of all the question types I’ve learned thus far . Unfortunately I scored 5/12 on just the mbt and a few strengthen questions. I gave myself 5 full minutes to get these answers correct and I didn’t make myself feel bad for not complying some outside of the 5 minutes. However I did worst. Does this mean I still don’t understand the question types ? I haven’t done more than the first 20 PTs but I’m concerned that I need to do something different or is it just the process ?

What do you think?

Also is there anyone who has logic reasoning packets that can help me study by question type ??

Hello everyone ,

I am currently in Chicago and I am working as a teacher. However, I’ve discovered this may not be the route to allow me to make my best efforts for law school in studying for the LSAT. I’ve decided to quit because I am not happy. However, I’ve only been out of college for almost a year (graduated last spring ). I’m not sure what’s a good part time or even full time job for me to get that will allow me time to study . I’ve looked on indeed.com and other sites but it’s been so hard finding anything . If anyone has been down this road before or has any advice on what I can do to meet my financial requirements (basic bills such as phone, car note , and insurance) I would be so greatly. I know this is the right choice but if I can avoid stressing this entire time about money I know I can raise my score .

Hey,

I was wondering if there were any people in the Chicago city area that would like to get together to be study buddies? Ideally it would be someone who is still going through the CC and wants to have and be a support system. We would all exchange resources, help each other gain insights to concepts, and overall work together to reaching our goals. Inbox me if you are interested.

Hello 7sagers !

I have been watching the discussions closely, and I first want to say congrats on all of your progress !! Many of you are doing extremely well. Unfortunately I have hit rock bottom. I took a course over the summer and my initial diagnostic score of 144 went down to a 138 by the end of two months. I was supposed to take the September LSAT, but I have moved it back to December because I want to get the best score possible. I am working on LSAT every single day. I feel i am getting better but i have yet to see any improvements. I would be extremely satisfied if i could get to 160. I know i have unmatched work ethic, but it seems like im having the time of my life trying to grasping the material. For now I am reading the powerscore books, using practice tests, and flashcards to help me. I think i can make the biggest improvement in Logic reasoning because I enjoy it so much. However, I need to make at least 18 correct in each section to get a 160. Please help!! I am not sure what to to do. What are some techniques that have helped you all? Im familiar with LSAT now with all the practice i have put in over the past three months. I just need to break through.

PLEASE list the key components that helped you piece things together for each section. Was their key videos that helped you make sense of everything ? Please let me know.

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Hello 7sagers,

I was just wondering if I started a masters program and did not complete it do I have to put that school on my application for example lsac . I just want to know if a withdrawal or W in a institution I no longer want to attend wouldn’t look so good on my application. Is it possible I don’t have

To bring up the school at all ?

Hello 7sagers,

Just looking for opinions on the most efficient way you all have full proof logic games with a full time job and studying lay daily. I take a timed section almost everyday so I'm trying to figure out that balance. I am focusing on getting through the set up and understanding how to make inferences more than the questions right now. I dont really know if doing it 8 to 10 times is the most efficient way to master the games. Sounds like a lot of printing. Any advice on systems or should I just do it ?

Hello,

Im just a little confused about necessary assumptions when using the negation test. We've been taught that if the answer choice, negated, would make the arguement not make sense or destroy it. My confusion is to me the argument is the premise and the conclusion. So am i looking for it to destroy the support between the conclusion and the argument or am i just looking for it to make the conclusion less likely to happen? Or am I looking for an assumption that would not support the relationship between the conclusion and the premises?

Hey ,

I understand that we are going through different parts of our LSAT journey. This is why I wanted to know if anyone wanted to be accountability partners? If you live in chicago that is a plus because we can study together in person. If interested please message me.

hello 7Sagers,

I have pushed my lsat date back once again to try the 7sage course ! I am so excited, but i cant help but wonder one question..when people take it again is it after they study for over a year ( as long as i have)? i am asking this because I have taken a course that did not help much ..did some self studying ( this helped a little ).. and now im on to 7sage which seems to look bright. I started with the september lsat date and now im changing it to the Feb or June date just to give myself enough time to grasp the material as much as possible. I am doing this because i do not want to have to take this test again. I have taken practice tests so I am familiar with the test, and my goal is to only take the real LSAT once. My question is for those who scored in the 160s range ( where i aim to be ) did you have to take it more than once? I would hope that all the prep im doing will allow me to take it once and ace it . ( note: i understand outside factors such as nerves and mistakes that make people take it over)

My dream is that with me pushing back the dates so much and allowing myself room to grow and practice more, that once i reach my target i will be able to take the LSAT only one time . Has anyone done this before?

Hello 7Sagers,

I am currently working on weaken questions and I am having a hard time understanding the task. I understand that I am supposed to focus on the conclusion, but find the gap between the premises and conclusion ( with the ac) that will weaken the argument. However, it is hard for me to do this accurately because i feel its too much in my head and i get confused. What are some strategies you all use to stop yourselves from getting confused. Do you focus only on weakening the conclusion or something else? Can i think of weakening questions in another way?

Hey 7sagers,

I need some advice. I've been working in corporate america for the last two years. I have an amazing relationship with my boss, but the job gives me so much anxiety and is so demanding. Some events happened that allowed my boss to ask me to think about if I want to stay another year or not. She wants the best for me. We are good friends, but I cant work with her much anymore because she is the cause of a lot of my anxiety lol.

I'm thinking about quiting in June versus staying until I wear out my welcome lol. I'm sure she will give me a letter of recommendation but I'm concerned about how that may look to law schools. I'm planning to apply by october 1at this year. Quiting will allow me more time to craft my essays and take the lsat in August.

I feel like after all of the work I put into the company it's time for me to step out and believe in myself. After all I've been putting off law school for three years now.

I have family support and will live off my savings until I find something I love to do until law school starts. Any advice ? Will the gap from june to October look bad?

Hello 7Sagers,

I am in the process of completing the core curriculum and i had a question about the LR portion of the circular. I am memorizing universal indicators, valid arguments , invalid arguments, and some and more relationships. My question is how does this apply? I know that i need to know this so that i can understand all of the harder questions. However, should i be applying this knowledge to all questions on the LR portion of the LSAT? Am i supposed to read each stimulus looking for these things ? I am just trying to be sure how i should be putting this together.

For example :

1. step one - memorize everything JY is talking about ( indicators, sufficient & necessary structures)

2. Step two??

I feel this is a tedious way of reading a stimulus , but is this how you would do a close reading?? Just wondering how i should apply these things and how they come together.

I am going over the LR flow chart. Step 0 is to idenify the stem, step 1 is read the stimulus, step 2 is asking is there an argument...my question is this... once i complete step 1 and identify the task shouldnt that tell me if an arguement is going to be there? For example: weaken/strengthen/ main point/ etc pretty much anything that is not strongly supported or inference questions are going to be arguements. So if the stem is a MSS or Infernece then i can eliminate step 2, right? Ive never seen a MBT or MSS with a real argument, but then again i havent seen all questions.

Hey Everyone,

I am getting ready to request my letters of rec for law school. I am going on my second year out of being out of college, and I have a really strong work and volunteer (community) recs in mind. However, I am not sure how to get ask my one of my professors for a letter of rec. I have two that I knew well because I was in office hours a lot, and one of them wrote me a letter for a program before..but I forgot to keep in touch. Anyone have any examples of how they would approach a professor that has helped them before but they haven't kept it touch with?

I am asking because I feel its weird after two years just to pop up in email asking for something.

Hello 7sagers,

I wanted to talk about this reoccurring issue I have been having about delaying law school. So let me first start off by stating that I believe that I can go to law school for free if I score well on the LSAT. My UGPA is a 3.4 ( not amazing but hope to be a splitter). I graduated from college in 2017. I went right into TFA and hated it, and now I am at a job I love. My boss understands that I would love to go to law school in 2020, so we agreed I will most likely keep this job until next year.

However, that would place me on a deadline to take the LSAT this summer ( I want to have my applications in by late September). I have been researching and studying the lsat for a while now maybe years, and I think i finally got the right approach down. However, I am not sure I will be able to get the score i want by the summer.

So I am considering delaying as long as it takes to get that score. However, not only do i have constant fear and anxiety while studying, but now i have a fear that I am pushing back major events in my life since I am now 24 years old. Can someone who has delayed law school help me calm the F down? lol

Hello 7sagers,

I am trying to develop a collection of as many early preptests as I can so that I can practice understanding question types. I understand how to get the latests PTs , but I cant seem to find a few on amazon. I need preptets: 1-6, 8, 17, 39, and maybe many tests in the 40s. Am I missing something ? It seems like they do not exist . I want to give myself enough tests to practice with and I cant seem to find them in numerical order , if at all.