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Hey @"David.Busis" . This resource is so helpful. Will a 2019 version be available?
https://classic.7sage.com/admissions/lesson/law-school-financial-aid/
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jkatz1488955
Friday, Jan 04 2019
jkatz1488955
Friday, Jan 04 2019
@jackboczar827 I think I said something along the lines of "in an attempt to make their material engaging, they veered too far into joke-y. It came off as corny to me and as a result, distracted me from the material itself".
For what it's worth, I shared this and more candid feedback with them after canceling my subscription.
jkatz1488955
Wednesday, Jan 02 2019
Interestingly, Michigan claimed in their scholarship offer to me that they do not negotiate. Their offer was more than I expected and I am thrilled by it so no skin off my back. However, FYI to other applicants. Here is their actual wording:
"Please be aware that once we have awarded a merit scholarship, it is not our practice to “compete” with awards from other schools. But while we do not increase merit awards once they are made, we would be very happy to discuss any concerns you may have about financing your education. If you would find this kind of counseling helpful, please don’t hesitate to contact either the Financial Aid Office or the Admissions Office."
jkatz1488955
Tuesday, Jan 01 2019
@aliceshang153 @lucykelly459 @jhbm90878 Yes we can speak about this.
If PT 37 is fresh for you, take a look at these questions and see if you can ID the repeating structure of each stimulus in abstract terms. For example "Jack could've cheated on the test therefore he did" could be described as "ability->did" or "A is possible therefore A happened or will happen". Each question contains a different "cookie-cutter".
37.4.12
37.4.02
37.2.25
37.2.21
37.2.03
Edit: Clarified the wording.
Edit Edit: IS not ISN'T
jkatz1488955
Tuesday, Jan 01 2019
Thanks @lucykelly459. I updated that link and sharing it here too. This one should work.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1msm8u4Qp73tDBUijlU0yQJLgTditGE8t/view?usp=sharing
jkatz1488955
Tuesday, Jan 01 2019
I think LR BR is the most complex of these topics so that's what I'l use to open up the session. You can see the slide here:
https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/1a_VHrdZmjhxaumfqF_80dZOhM9oWBObz?ths=true
@304694 I'm happy to share my meditation practice. It was pretty straight-forward, but as you say, consistency is key.
@buckracing560 We can chat about this. I haven't chosen a school yet but my decision process will be guided by my career goals, preferred geography, cost of attendance, and school culture. 7Sage consulting shared my application with Selene (applications review services) and I can share some of what she felt stood out about my application and also what I think stands out beyond the score.
jkatz1488955
Sunday, Dec 30 2018
Thinking about some topics for this week's intro. If you have an interest in hearing my 2 cents on any one of the following topics for 5 minutes to kick off the Office Hourse, holler!
Meditation
BR exercises and approach
My approach to LG (spoiler: it's the same as JY's)
Habits to forestall burnout + test day routine
Cookie Cutter Review
jkatz1488955
Sunday, Dec 30 2018
Hi Mike. I'm happy to meet for coffee. I'll DM you.
jkatz1488955
Friday, Dec 28 2018
It is rare, but possible, to reach high 160s to low 170s in 3 months but it does seem pretty rare. If you share your practice scores we can share some tips.
jkatz1488955
Friday, Dec 28 2018
Honestly, no one can answer this question without knowing what you've scored on your most recent PTs (taken under test day conditions) and your average score in each section.
jkatz1488955
Friday, Dec 21 2018
@304694 I mean tracking the content as I'm reading it with my pencil. You can see JY doing this in his live footage taking a fresh PT.
jkatz1488955
Friday, Dec 21 2018
Yup. Agreed with above.
In my case, I used lots of PTs between 40-84 for timed PTs, BRed them thoroughly, and returned to questions that gave me difficulty once and awhile afterward. By test day, I was prepared for whatever material they threw at me. This is the approach I recommend.
jkatz1488955
Friday, Dec 21 2018
This was the approach I used to score high 160s/low 170s consistently. The only difference was that for the 2-3 I answered but was only 60% sure on, I used a little squiggly instead of s circle so that I knew not to return to it unless I had time left over. One thing to keep in mind is that you should continue to skip in the second round if you're having trouble with a question. I returned to a question 3-4 times before (though rarely). We skip so that we don't sink more time into a question than we need to so we should continue doing that in the 2nd round which may lead to a 3rd round.
You will get more comfortable with the process over time. Speed at this point will probably come from cookie-cutter review.
jkatz1488955
Friday, Dec 21 2018
I would hold-off on RC. It's larger under-taking than foolproofing LG.
jkatz1488955
Friday, Dec 21 2018
@aliceshang153 Hi Alice. No problem.
I'd recommend stepping away from PTs and the Test Master material for the time being. Focus on moving through the 7sage core curriculum diligently (not rushed) and post questions/explanations in the forum and the curriculum comments section.
As you near the end of the curriculum, listen to this webinar on how to proceed https://classic.7sage.com/webinar/post-core-curriculum-study-strategies/
One thing I do in conjunction with the core curriculum is an introduction to LG foolproofing. You can do a few games or 1 section per day or throughout the week during the core curriculum. Once you finish, you can begin a more involved foolproofing of LG (2+ sections per day). https://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/2737/logic-games-attack-strategy
jkatz1488955
Friday, Dec 21 2018
Here is the iPhone holder I mentioned you can use to record yourself.
https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=gooseneck+iphone
jkatz1488955
Friday, Dec 21 2018
@gurikaurkahlon743 @gurikaurkahlon743 thank you! I’m glad you found it helpful and I appreciate the questions.
One thing I wanted to add is that when you’re “following the bread crumbs” for a question you got wrong, it’s important to think about whether you have a habit to prevent that thing from going wrong and that habit failed or you have no such habit in the first place.
“Reading w my pencil down” and circling key words is my habit to prevent mistranslating a rule. I began doing this when I realized I could never reach my LG goal score w translation errors. This same approach must be applied to all parts of the test.
jkatz1488955
Thursday, Dec 20 2018
I've been working with 7Sage admissions and we were left scratching our heads when I was Waitlisted at Georgetown based on my numbers. David passed my file over to Selene and she gave us her opinion.
I was very impressed with Selene's notes on my app and wish I had had a chance to hear her thoughts before I submitted. She provided incredibly thorough notes on each part of my app and how they came together as a whole. These notes sounded like what I imagine a conversation amongst adcoms reviewing a candidate sound like -- reading her notes was like being a fly on the wall. She also shared what she felt was missing and I'm working on adding these pieces in the following months in a LOCI.
As is usually the case, 7Sage is offering valuable resources at relatively reasonable prices. $500 is a lot of money. If you have the means though, I do think you're getting a bargain.
Thanks Selene.
jkatz1488955
Thursday, Dec 20 2018
P.S.
I've been in your shoes. I had no idea how to improve on this test when I started studying and the internet/friends/family were providing all sorts of conflictive (usually unhelpful) advice. 2 years later, I scored a 174 and that was made possible by 7Sage materials and this community.
You can improve on this test and this community will help you. This process is a marathon not a spring. Hang in there!
jkatz1488955
Thursday, Dec 20 2018
You could not have studied the 7Sage course and some Trainer courses in any useful way in 2 months while taking several PTs. What is your goal score?
My advice is to stop PTing, go through the 7Sage core curriculum thoroughly, and listen to the following webinar for how to proceed after the core curriculum. https://classic.7sage.com/webinar/post-core-curriculum-study-strategies/
jkatz1488955
Thursday, Dec 20 2018
@304694
I think my biggest obstacle is learning to be OK with skipping. My test-taking skills naturally predispose me to approach every question, in order, and give it my best go before moving on.
Been there. You're not alone. Very happy to speak about this.
@zordani363
How did you stop yourself from rushing during the test?
Good question. The rushing issue may be nested within the timing/skipping issue so this is a perfect time to hash it out. I think the best framing for my response will be in differentiating between "rhythm" and "rushing". Looking forward to speaking more about it.
jkatz1488955
Wednesday, Dec 19 2018
@cdaddario2318 This is the post I mentioned today.
jkatz1488955
Wednesday, Dec 19 2018
A 160 would mean answering 10 more questions correct from your 155. This is no small feat. The fastest gains on this test tend to come from LG. If you were to start foolproofing LG now and go -0 in January you might (depending on the curve) hit your 160 assuming you don't underperform in LR or RC. For reference, it took me 2 months of LG foolproofing to go from avg -10+ to -4/5. I never got to -0 but -2 average took quite some time.
The Ultimate package is the best prep course out there but it loses substantial value if your don't complete the core curriculum -- and complete it thoroughly. This is because the curriculum lays a conceptual framework for you to understand what the LSAT is doing on any given question. It also helps you understand JYs explanations since he expects you to have gone through the curriculum already. Maybe most importantly, the framework it lays down allows you to work through these problems yourself before watching JYs explanations. For reference, it takes most people between 6-12 weeks to work through the curriculum and this needs to be done before drilling/foolproofing. You could do some drilling/foolproofing throughout the core curriculum but this would add to that 6-12 week figure.
Because of this, I think it's unlikely that you will score 160+ on the January LSAT.
That's a shitty opinion to share but I've been in your shoes and honest opinions on the forum helped me reach my goal. Have you considered postponing a cycle? You could get through the curriculum, foolproof, and start PTing/drilling in time to test next summer and apply early.
jkatz1488955
Tuesday, Dec 18 2018
@jkatz1488955 Interesting question. My 174 came on an undisclosed test and I understood v little about undisclosed tests until afterwards. It's my understanding that undisclosed tests tend to be older, recycled tests. So it makes sense to consider studying differently for them, although it wouldn't have in my case and may not for many others. I think this is an interesting conversation to have.
@changrichard94444 I had a tutor but I think she would count as my mentor in many respects. I've also tutored others and may have served as a mentor myself. Happy to speak about this process as well.
Good questions!
slight technical difficulties on my end. be there shortly