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justinjaewonhur673

Friday, Sep 01 2017

I took PT 69 yesterday with 2 hours of sleep and absolutely bombed. Gonna blind review then take 2 more in the 70's and do a retake of PT 81 on the week of.

Thanks for the advice.

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Wednesday, Aug 30 2017

justinjaewonhur673

Advice on remaining PTs

Hey everyone,

I'm thankful and happy to say after my June sitting (162), my average for PT's has improved.

I've taken 46, 47, 55, 58, 60, 61 and have averaged 169 (as high as 172).

I'm around my goal (170 would be nice), and I'd like to take more PT's in the 70s before September's sitting.

I have PTs 48-54,56-57, 59, 69, 71, 72, 74, 76, 78 remaining.

I'm going to take 4 more PT's before the 16th.

Keeping in mind of a possible retake in December, I'd like to save some newer PT's.

Should I take as many modern PT's before September as possible, or should I save some?

I'm thinking I'll do 59, 69, 72, 76... Or 69, 71, 72, 74.

Thanks for the advice.

General · If J.Y. took a new LSAT, would he get a 180?

justinjaewonhur673

Friday, Aug 11 2017

I think he would get 180 because of his test-taking skills; the low-hanging fruit theory,etc.

LSAT · LR, how best to formulate what an answer may look like before going to the answers, anyone?

justinjaewonhur673

Friday, Aug 11 2017

The end goal isn't to anticipate the right answer.

IMO, prephasing the answer helps me engage in the stimulus and FORCE myself to think:

"X because of Y; but this is GARBAGE because it TFG/FTC Z"

It's almost never 'correct' but I know what X and Y is clearer because I've articulated in my head.

That's more important to me, especially in hard questions.

I encourage you to supplement 7sage with Trainer for LR/RC. Helped me be more mechanical.

LSAT · LR, how best to formulate what an answer may look like before going to the answers, anyone?

justinjaewonhur673

Friday, Aug 11 2017

I like to use the Trainer's method.

Find conclusion

Find premise

Find the FLAW in how premises support the conclusion.

This flaw is usually my prephase.

One layer deeper, I like to phrase my prephases with the terms "Takes for Granted" and "Fails to Consider".

FTC = forgets to think of something

TFG = assumes something is the case

I try and go through these steps every single questions.

General · Should I buy LSAT Trainer?

justinjaewonhur673

Saturday, Aug 05 2017

I've used the 7sage CC and enjoyed the supplementary work that I have gotten from the trainer, for LR. I think if you do both correctly, it's better than doing one correctly.

Study Groups · [Ended] June SG | PT 79 | Sat June 3rd at 5pm

justinjaewonhur673

Sunday, Jun 04 2017

@nessak130467

Thanks Nessa. I'm disappointed that I wasn't able to fully take advantage of this study group setup. But, nonetheless, I had a wonderful time reviewing that comp passage with you and @justinjaewonhur673 @nessak130467 @kaabajian694 @ahuang618496 .

I feel like we are "buff" and "pumped up" enough for Monday. See you at the pep rally.

Study Groups · [Ended] June SG | PT 79 | Sat June 3rd at 5pm

justinjaewonhur673

Saturday, Jun 03 2017

Is this still happening? Can't seem to join.

PrepTests ·

PT144.S3.Q13

justinjaewonhur673

Wednesday, May 31 2017

Type: NA

Conclusion: The network's ad will not as effectively attract viewers who'll continue watching the program as the producers' advertisement would.

Premise: The network's ad grossly misrepresents the program and people won't watch after watching the first episode with false expectations.

Pre-Phase: this is comparative conclusion. It's necessary to differentiate the two different ads.

A) Negation: Less than half of viewers tuning in to the first episode will do so due to the network's advertisement. This doesn't address the comparative aspect of the ads.

B) Correct; Negation: the producer's ads would have grossly misrepresented the program. If so, then there's nothing different about the ads.

C) Negation: less than half of people who watch the first episode and become loyal viewers will not have tuned in to the first episode as a result of the TV network's advertisement. This speaks to our intuitions but it's not addressing the comparative nature of the conclusion.

D) Negation: If producer's ads were used instead, only small amount of viewers would tune in further. Not necessary. The TV network could have retained 4/100 as loyal viewers while the producer's ads could have retained 6/100 as loyal viewers, after the first episode. This is in-line with the conclusion. Doesn't matter what the absolute number of people continuing in is; what matters is the relative number.

E) Negation: Less than half of people who become loyal viewers of a program do not miss the program's first episode. Imagine if there were 51/100 people who become loyal viewers after watching the first episode; now there's 49/100. Doesn't really destroy the argument about the advertisements.

Study Groups · [Ended] June SG | PT 79 | Sat June 3rd at 5pm

justinjaewonhur673

Wednesday, May 31 2017

Hey, I'd like to participate as well! Looking forward to it.

LSAT · Lsat score going down 2 weeks before the june exam

justinjaewonhur673

Wednesday, May 31 2017

We are literally in the exact same situation.

Keep on keeping on.

Take a break.

LSAT · Advice for increasing speed in RC

justinjaewonhur673

Thursday, May 18 2017

One thing that I struggled with is trying to go too fast. Don't rush. Take time up-front on the passage like you would on LG.

LSAT · [Ended] Free RC Tutoring - Science Passage (Sunday, May 21, 4 p.m. EST)

justinjaewonhur673

Wednesday, May 17 2017

:( true

LSAT · [Ended] Free RC Tutoring - Science Passage (Sunday, May 21, 4 p.m. EST)

justinjaewonhur673

Wednesday, May 17 2017

Setting alarm on now with the right time zone so I don't show up 2 hours late this time :) :) :)

General · First PT after finishing curriculum

justinjaewonhur673

Wednesday, May 17 2017

Hi Paul1234,

I was in a similar position as you coming out of CC; in fact, I didn't take a diagnostic, but my first PT after CC was better than expected; but I hit a major plateau for like 6-7 PT's and stayed at that score. Here's what I've learned from a sage @jhaldy10325.

You're not even close to your potential/abilities PT'ing after CC. After CC, you've barely cemented your fundamentals nor have you learned any test-taking abilities. The latter will come with doing PT's and trying new strategies. For instance, during RC, I used to struggle and try and disprove every answer. No wonder I wasn't finishing the sections on time. I had to learn to be more confident and eliminate quickly. Things like that will improve with time, along with drilling to cement your fundamentals.

There are 3 stages to prep. You're in your first stage where your BR score is going to be so much higher than your actual score. Your BR score is your theoretical "ceiling" as of now. Taking time out of the equation, that's your maximum score. Your goal right now should be to push your BR score up to and/or close to +5 of your target score. Then, when you are satisfied with your BR score, you should try and close the gap between BR and PT, which is stage 2. This is where the test-taking abilities come in. Being more confident and moving on, skipping, splitting game boards, notation methods for RC, etc, etc. When you've bridged the gap between your BR and PT, then you go into stage 3, where you can cement all that you've learned and get a "graduate degree" in prep. This is working on your routine, cookie cutter structures, etc etc.

Your BR scores and the things that you mention (being anxious, skipping, etc) all indicate to me that you are on the right track and asking the right questions. I highly suggest meditating before PT's, exercising (aerobic) before PT's and keeping a routine. Please do not get too discouraged by your first PT. Some have said that their PT's didn't click until like their 15th or 20th PT. The PT's are a means to an end; not an end in itself. It's there to reveal what we need to work on and how we can improve.

Good luck, and don't hesitate to inbox me if you have any further questions or comments.

General · Decision time help

justinjaewonhur673

Tuesday, May 16 2017

Hey dude,

I've been keeping up with your RC posts and general advice. It's been a great help to me.

A popular and perhaps more cautiously pragmatic approach would be to postpone to September. However, here's another way to look at June. As I'm shooting for June, I find myself leveraging the date as a motivator. I like having my life compartmentalized. Knowing that I'm going to take in June has helped me remind myself to stay on track. I've also made corresponding changes in my life (quit my job) which has enabled me to do this. I don't know where you're at in terms of external commitments, but if June is doable, given the sleep troubles that you may have, perhaps you can leverage the date to your advantage to push forward in your prep.

One thing I've been noticing about this journey is that progress is non-linear. I can't tell you whether you will be good or not for June in terms of your target score. However, if you've made this much progress, perhaps beginning to lightly PT to gauge where you're at would be a good course of action to decide whether or not you're going to take in June.

I've made huge mistakes throughout my prep. The gravest mistake was taking too many PT's at the beginning (I started doing 3 PT's a week right after CC because I thought that's what I was supposed to do). Given that, I feel like I made noticeable progress in LR especially, through my PT and BR experience. Another huge part of PT'ing that you can't get from drilling is the time pressure and test taking strategies. So, it's a delicate balance between not too many PT's and getting enough exposure/learning from them.

All and all, my humble advice is to give PT'ing a shot, shoot for June, and postpone if necessary.

Best,

General · Study Time Minimums??

justinjaewonhur673

Monday, May 15 2017

1 tip I have is physically going somewhere to study. When I'm at home, I don't get in the right headspace and get distracted easily. Go to somewhere you like studying and spend X amount of time there and then call it a day, and be consistent about it. This allows you to get into a rhythm. Hope this helps!

LSAT · I suck at assumption questions

justinjaewonhur673

Monday, May 15 2017

I was the same way as you for assumption questions. A part of the difficulty in these questions are understanding the stimulus. Make sure to slow down and fully understand. (As well as all the other advice given above).

General · Need some happy vibes :)

justinjaewonhur673

Monday, May 15 2017

I think it's definitely possible for you to catch up to your PT score. Foolproof games as much as possible and try do the best you can to keep a steady schedule.

That said, postponing is also a possibility. Another flip side is leveraging date to be surgical about your studying and habits. Try and gauge where you're at in the next couple weeks. Get your score, not date.

You seem like you're on the right track with those BR scores and know that with timing precision, better fundamentals and improved test taking, you can achieve your potential.

Best of luck and happy vibes!

General · emotional state after completing a preptest

justinjaewonhur673

Monday, May 15 2017

I feel exactly the same as you do on this!

I think it was you (maybe I'm wrong) that wrote extensively and elegantly about the BR process. I'm trying (and mostly failing) to try and shift my focus on BR and not on PT. Since you wrote that post, I have emphasized doing a whole day BR (not after my PT) and I've improved since!

General · Prepping For Retake in December or February, Critique My Plan (please). Long Post.

justinjaewonhur673

Monday, May 15 2017

I think your plan looks good.

One thing I'll say is that you being a military musician should not be undervalued. I'm not saying you should bank on that to get you into law school- but it should be viewed as an incredibly special platform for you that enables you to go to great places. I hope that you can utilize it as a motivating factor.

Also, I recommend that you keep your mental/physical states as fresh as possible. Exercise, meditation, nutrition, etc. I was on a similar schedule like you for the last 5 months and let me tell you- we're not superhumans. You'll feel it. Do what you can to remedy the stenuous schedule.

But all in all, everything looks good. Try and keep track of your mental/LSAT/physical states in a journal or something as it sounds like this is going to be an enlightening challenge for you.

Best of luck.

General · Postpone until September?

justinjaewonhur673

Monday, May 15 2017

Alex gives great advice. Go for your score, not a date.

Hunker down on LG first to get it down to close to -0. Then LR/RC. If you know you're gonna get a PT and you can feel confident in at least one section of getting a -0 to -3, then you've got a good foundation!

General · Constant need to test

justinjaewonhur673

Monday, May 15 2017

^ and by full sections I mean from PT's 1-35!

General · Constant need to test

justinjaewonhur673

Monday, May 15 2017

I fully understand this. I felt that way too when I was going through the CC.

One advice that I received from one of the sages is that PT's are a means to an end; but not an end in itself. It's there to expose weaknesses/strengths rather than a mere score.

Not to mention that if you rush into PT's and don't do well, it'll shatter your confidence and hinder your progress.

I recommend doing full sections to apply concepts and timing strategies as a remedy for your eagerness.

General · Feeling Down

justinjaewonhur673

Sunday, May 14 2017

@gregoryalexanderdevine723 @jaranda503 @rahelaalam514 @rahelaalam514 @zachweisenbarger992

Thank you guys so much for the kind words, advice and encouragement. I'm gonna take a couple days to get my mind right and get back at it.

This community is the best. Have a good weekend guys.