Dude, yes!!!!! Finally! You deserve it and have earned this spot since day uno. Lots of luck man, please come back and remember us still working for your dream come true!!!

It doesn't get better.

Sorry^ let me add this in quickly.

When I did visit Columbia, I went more than once. And it may be because I am part of the majority race at CLS, not sure... but the students engaged with me very well. There were a few individuals that had an upper hand in the admissions, and these students seemed to know what they look for in both (personality and mental capacities). A prime example of this was when they picked me out and pulled me to the side (again probably because of my race),

and asked me: "where else are you looking to apply to, have you made a decision?"

At that time I had the inkling that they wanted to see where my standings were on accepting a law school offer, and more specifically if I was leaning towards Columbia.

Walking into the library countless times including during the Summer, without having to show a CLS ID... the security just let me in to all the buildings without asking, aka they assumed I already was a student there. Which is kind of cool but also kind of a hasty generalization.

So like I stressed before, CLS is in fact very Asian. And they noticed that in me, unfortunately with that stereotype instantly being attached to me. The treatment I got after countless visits may very well have been due to my ethnicity. Sad, but nevertheless why many may have different feedback about CLS.

It's super personal, also knowing what state you'd like to be in makes a huge impact. I would suggest visiting as many places as possible, so you know for sure where you see your future!! :)

@figueroa10040 said:

@yeramchoi168 said:

I may be alone here, but after visiting Columbia I fell even deeper in love than I was prior to visiting. I knew I wanted to be in the City, and the only T14 around was Columbia and NYU. I got to talking with many of the students there, and they all seemed to enjoy it. There are a lot of LLM students (mostly Asian), but if you want to be in nyc & in the T14... Columbia will be your dream. After visiting Columbia, I went to NYU and wanted to run away. I'd visit, its a very personal experience... try getting to know some of the current students opinions.

Really?? I’m more drawn to nyu than cls. What did you hate about nyu??

I went to cls first, I suppose falling in love is the reaction I had when visiting. I think for me CLS had a very 'scholarly vibe', in which I finally felt fit with my personality and accomplishments. Frankly, I'm a very competitive person & although most people who have visited Cls, complaining about how it seemed "harsh or cold", made me feel just the opposite. NYU, no one gave me the time of day. The law school was in the middle of the streets of Manhattan, which (I love but it was not my favorite for atmosphere)... However, take that with a grain of salt because I truly like how Columbia is still a neat and tight campus. There was, at least for me.. a sense of coziness?

It is super interesting to hear everyone else say the opposite of my opinions. I just didn't mesh well with nyu, I couldn't have wanted to leave any quicker than I did.

My heart remains with CLS!

P.s. NYU was superrrrr white. Columbia is prettttyyyy Asian. Outside of the city, Cornell has more diversity in regards to students.

I may be alone here, but after visiting Columbia I fell even deeper in love than I was prior to visiting. I knew I wanted to be in the City, and the only T14 around was Columbia and NYU. I got to talking with many of the students there, and they all seemed to enjoy it. There are a lot of LLM students (mostly Asian), but if you want to be in nyc & in the T14... Columbia will be your dream. After visiting Columbia, I went to NYU and wanted to run away. I'd visit, its a very personal experience... try getting to know some of the current students opinions.

If you had a nice GRE score, lots of law schools are now accepting those in replace of the lsat. Which can easily be helpful for people like you and I, who have a Masters, now looking for law school in the future! Having a higher education before going for your J.D, will always look positive on your resume & transcripts. I recommend you look into if the places you want to apply to, and their accepting different entrance exams. What did you get your M.A in?

I'd say... try em both. It can't hurt. See what you tend to lean towards, and then choose what to submit. If you do both, you can always send both (good/great) scores to the admissions team. I recommend seeing how ya do on both, honestly.

What are you looking into? What was your undergrad career/background? Sorry if you answered this, and I missed it. If so, just disregard this comment.

@tristandesinor505 said:

WAAAAAA???!!! they are really getting desperate out there

I am glad that they are desperate, but I think this opens up many doors for others. We (lsat) takers might make up the minority in a few years, with the competitive exams they are now allowing for consideration.

@kaitlinroser12398 said:

GMAT is more difficult than lsat imo. GMAT basically has LR and RC + lots of math stuff.

True, if anything they are probably much more adapted to the tricky logistics & the stuff (most of us) hate the MOST.... MATH! I mean my god, they surely have the upper hand in the branches of law that require math. I know for a fact that they would have much of the credentials for law school, at least as much as we do.

If you are an Asian-American, I'd recommend putting in Pacific/ Native Hawaiian...

Makes sense though, STEM majors for undergrad + grad students... this would be the best option. I love how law schools are finally realizing that other tests can tackle the LSAT in hopes to get into law. It's (personally) common sense, there are so many branches of study that most neglect to realize how beneficial it could be for future lawyers. Especially in the STEM fields, hell yeah the GMAT is sufficient to the LSAT! I am celebrating this

Welcome to...

Try an empty classroom at FIU, chances are you'll be able to get an empty class during the Summer. If anyone asks just say you're a student, that's what I did. It's pretty dead on campuses during the break, and when you take the actual exam... it will be in that exact setting (most likely). I was suggest UM, but since they're a private campus, you know... :/

@leahbeuk911 said:

Wooooo! Congrats!!! I don't know about WL interviews but I have heard for regular admission, the interview puts you at about 80% chance of getting in or so. I'd imagine it would be at least that for a WL interview. It's definitely a good sign, but just focus on the now and celebrate your achievement! :)

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Packers fan?!?!

@shaw5563 said:

Hey all,

As many of you know my application cycle did not go very smoothly. One of the biggest obstacles I faced during this process was the LSAC. My transcripts from about 10 years ago underwent a change after I spoke to the Dean of my old community college. She enrolled me in an academic renewal policy that removes all credit attempted and calculated for grades given at the college. I re-submitted my transcripts to the LSAC, because based on their posted policy at the time my GPA should have been significantly improved. (2.8 - 3.1)

I fought with them for months, filled out forms they had for me, updated schools of my situation, put my applications on hold, and ultimately I truly believe this is what landed me on all the wait-list as I still have not been able to send a final update to the schools as to what the outcome will be.

I fought very hard against the LSAC because I knew their policy was wrong. I filed a complaint with the BBB and during the correspondence there they continued to reviel that they did not understand their own policy. The contradicted themselves multiple times, and I even received an E-mail from the BBB agent that stated she saw their inconsistency and left the complain as "unresolved".

I brought all this to a lawyer, who believed I 100% had a case against them. Their policy was wrong, and they were holding it against me. It was up to them to change their policy, but they DID hold my applications back. He advised me not to litigate though because he thought they'd appeal me to hell. I'm still unsure if I will purse this.

Some good has come out of this however, the LSAC HAS UPDATED their entire transcript summerization policy due to my persistence. While the LSAC has ultimately crushed my dreams and hampered all my hard work, I have at least ensured that it wont happen to someone else.

(failing grades, and grades to be excluded are totally different now)

https://www.lsac.org/aboutlsac/policies/transcript-summarization

Their new policy explicitly excludes me from having my grades changed now, and replaces ALL the wording I pointed to that showed them why it should be changed.

It's a hallow victory, I am sitting on a ton of waitlists now and I really do contribute it to this. Especially after e-mailing schools to put my applications on hold for almost a month.

Just know, you should NEVER back down. You should always fight for yourself. Always fight for what is right, even if it doesn't help you know it can help someone else later.

I plan on staying on 7Sage, especially if I don't get off a waitlist. I hope to help and get you to realize some of your dreams as well. Keep up the hard work 7Sagers.

I think myself & a few others will be here with you after this fall. I'll be here too, for a very long time. I'm working on my Masters and intend to then go to law school, so I'm not going anywhere either. You've been very motivating and we all admire it.

@katrakkade441 said:

16personalities.com

There is a lot of good criticism of the personality test, but I still think it's interesting to discuss..esp. in ctxt of the LSAT. Wondering if certain personality types (like analysts) actually tend to do better on the LSAT. I found very limited data with a google search. Thought the forum could be a good place to talk about it, criticize the test, and perhaps get into a nature vs. nurture debate :)

-Sam

I recommend everyone to take this exam! ISTJ!!!!:)

@71888 said:

Big city, for sure.

Been in NYC my whole life and plan on being here for my career.

Loyalty runs thick in us New Yorkers

This cycle sucked yo, no joke

@nicolassaw861 said:

This last weekend was a major deposit deadline for them. The interview is the same as the first except there is a timed writing portion (15min sections) also

Hey bud,

any updates or news for you? Its been crickets for a few top 7Sagers, I haven't heard from a few in a few days on how its going?

@pcainti665 said:

And I'd have to say I am still as unsure and lost as before I had my decisions from the schools...

My final results are:

Acceptances:

None

Waitlist:

UCLA

U. Mich

U. Penn

Northwestern

Notre Dame

Duke

UVA

Rejections: (mostly expected here)

Harvard

Stanford

Columbia

U.Chicago

USC

Two still pending:

Yale (rejection)

Irvine

So what the heck am I suppose to do. I have to go this cycle, I really don't have an option. I need to push these waitlists until I can't any longer. I just don't know what the best strategy is.

Obviously I have schools I'd rather attend on the waitlist, but since I'm on the waitlist I don't get to choose. I have to beg them all and hope someone likes me enough right?

Sigh, I have to say....this is not fun!

Don't lower your standards, you've raised all of ours!