I could be mistaken but I think it stays open, you just don't see your score before having a writing sample on file. For reference, I took mine two weeks after the final test date administered so I think its safe to say you could take it in the week after testing :smile:

Happy to take a look ! Shoot me a DM :smile:

There is a clock displayed during the test. Top right corner, countdown from 35 mins. Similar to the 7sage interface but I'd recommend practicing on Law Hub so that you see the exact testing format.

Hey @, I've had two tutors who I greatly benefited from! I'm not sure whether they are currently taking on students but I'll tag them just in case. One is approved by 7sage, another was a very active community member that was providing his services in his spare time.

@ is the 7sage approved tutor

@ was the active community member.

Here is the link to other 7Sage approved tutors, best of luck!

https://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/4760/7sages-approved-tutors/p1

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That's not a T-14 though. I don't know of a T-14 with a deadline past February.

I would carefully review the admissions timeline for each university in addition to cross checking with the information that 7sage has posted. But just a couple of examples of T-14's that have deadlines in March...

Harvard: Deadline: 3/1/2022 | Final ED deadline: 3/30/2021

U of Chicago: Deadline: 3/1/2022

U Penn: Deadline: 3/1/2022

U of Virginia: Deadline: 3/3/2022

Cornell: Deadline: 3/1/2022

None of those are April.

Maybe I’m mistaken, but above you questioned what the point is of having a deadline set to January/February. Someone then mentioned knowing an individual who applied in April in which you stated you were unaware of any T14s with a deadline past February. So I was informing you of multiple T14s that have a March deadline. I think the heart of this entire thread, however, is that others are hoping to guide you in the direction of understanding you can submit an application beyond Thanksgiving and still receive an offer.

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That's not a T-14 though. I don't know of a T-14 with a deadline past February.

I would carefully review the admissions timeline for each university in addition to cross checking with the information that 7sage has posted. But just a couple of examples of T-14's that have deadlines in March...

Harvard: Deadline: 3/1/2022 | Final ED deadline: 3/30/2021

U of Chicago: Deadline: 3/1/2022

U Penn: Deadline: 3/1/2022

U of Virginia: Deadline: 3/3/2022

Cornell: Deadline: 3/1/2022

I'm not sure about others but when my transcripts were processed the GPA was processed same day. I would reach out to them to discuss the issue.

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89, 91, and 92 have comparatives. Only one I didn't see is 90 which is certainly an outlier as I believe LSAC is still keeping comparatives on the test.

The third passage in 90+ is comparative. (:

Appreciate you😄 I did a random search and it wasn’t coming up and I didn’t want to spoil those PTS LOL

From LSAC - "Given the expressed preference of the substantial majority of test takers, LSAC will continue to provide the LSAT in an online, live remote-proctored format through June 2023"

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It's definitely not perfect but the ideas are actually very interesting and it's a bold subject... insider non-trading is super interesting and original. I don't think I've ever heard someone give that perspective, or even point out that it's a potential problem. You would probably enjoy thinking about vaccine hesitancy through the same lens... applying a vaccine being the "active" and neglecting a vaccine being "passive," and the weight-on-conscience of each option in the case of a bad/good outcome. I think it's true that acting and having a bad outcome feels worse than neglecting to do something and having a bad outcome... it's all interesting. Thanks for sharing!

I was not asking for advice, as I have already applied in a previous cycle :) Good luck with your apps if you have any pending!

They were just sharing their thoughts. Which I presume was the intent of this post.

Intent was not to solicit feedback from 0Ls lol, must be a misunderstanding there

From one fellow star member to another, it's important to remind you of our commitment to the community, which I personally think includes a mutual level of respect. In all fairness, when something is posted as a discussion on a public forum; feedback, comments, and suggestions/criticism will naturally occur, whether you explicitly state for feedback or not. You had the original Yale 250 posted with no other writing other than wanting to just share it for others to see in case it may be helpful. I think if you didn't want feedback or comments, you should have clearly stated that in your original post.

It seems a bit unfair for you to comment that you did not want feedback from someone who you presume is an "0L." At some point you were also a "0L" offering feedback, criticism, comments, etc. in which maybe those post did not ask for it.

Saturday test taker, here's what I remember!

RC-LG-RC-LR

1st RC set: I.M Pei & Lourve Paris, History (comparative) Conflicts of interest, Nutrition and biology - found this subreddit from 3 years ago and the powerscore podcast indicates that this RC was the experimental in 2017 and the real deal in 2019. https://www.reddit.com/r/LSAT/comments/cdo5e1/fuck_history_fuck_conflict_of_interest_fuck/

LG: linear, advanced linear, advanced grouping (fishing, hiking, kayaking), advanced grouping

2nd RC set: Ralph Ellison - Invisible man (different yet similar to PT 37), Jurors and evidence, archeologist, comparative on bottom up and top down processing (topics all of which are highly repeated in all the PTs)

LR: a lot of MBT, a lot of ridiculously tough flaw - content from LR that I remember: A question about kitchen appliances shipped for free and refrigerators not being shipped for free (mbt), conversation between 2 people where the 1st speaker replied back and we were asked what word the 2nd speaker misinterpreted, and a question about sea urchins I think, might've been a SA or PSA question.

89, 91, and 92 have comparatives. Only one I didn't see is 90 which is certainly an outlier as I believe LSAC is still keeping comparatives on the test.

I printed out the LG games and did them on paper, albeit, games are done solely on paper so there wasn’t a huge difference when I went back to the digital format. I’d be cautious taking PTs on paper unless you have accommodations. For some they perform better on RC and LR in paper format then have a difficult time transitioning to a digital format and see their accuracy decrease. I think it’s okay for review, but not the best form of practice for drilling or PTing. Hope this helps!

From the time we are born, we are given certain benchmarks to reach at a certain age – when we should walk, when we should talk, the list goes on. I'm 25 and started studying when I was 23. At first I got caught up in having another item checked off the list by a certain age and as months turned into years I've learned that it doesn't matter when you start. Don't let the idea of what age you'll start and finish law school determine your choices. Friends and family kept asking when I'll finally cave in and just apply to law school, even still to this day. Don't let the perceptions and thoughts of others take over your own. You get to choose what you want to do and when you want to do it, no one else gets to make that decision. Your journey does not have a deadline. You do not have a deadline. You will grow into who you are supposed to become, and however long that takes, well that’s just fine.

There’s something about the silence at 4am, no birds chirping, no sounds of traffic, no random sounds that family members make in the house. I get up at 4, read the news or a chapter in a book until 5am then workout until 6am. All this puts me in the proper headspace to study from 7-9am before work. I’ll find time sometimes at lunch, and again at the end of the workday usually 6:30-8:30pm. Fortunately I’m not commuting but when I was I’d study on my two hour commute(if you are commuting try to build a habit of doing some LG or an LR set of 5-10Q).

What’ll work best is creating a routine, ironing out the kinks until you’ve built a habit and mindset that carries you methodically day in and day out. Find what hours your mind works best and build around it.

I took a 3.5 - 4 month break and it was definitely difficult to get back into a rhythm, as I also work full time and my work load became more. I found it was easier to start by studying material I "had in the bag." For me this was LG so I started each day with games and worked my way back into a strategic study plan tackling the material I'm weak in. I also didn't jump right into studying for long hours - short and sweet to just find my routine again.

I'm a morning person so I studied for a few hours before work - at lunch - and again for an hour or so after work. Its about quality not quantity. Find the hours that your mind is most alert, spend that time studying.

Remember, it never gets easier, you just get better. Build your weaknesses until they become your strengths.

4 sections total - 3 scored, 1 experimental

1 minute break between each section - 10 minute break after 2 completed sections before moving to the last 2 sections

Practice 1-3 prompts and you'll be fine. LSAC has one prompt listed on their website.

If you feel good about your current state with LR, don’t quite see the need for more improvement, take a glance at LG. LG does require a rock solid understanding of conditionals which is covered in LR, and JY does a phenomenal job at explaining it.

If you find yourself plateauing or missing certain questions, check out the LR in the curriculum and review. Sometimes seeing a different approach can be tremendously helpful.

I would cancel if

You are 99.9% sure you will retake the LSAT and don't just plan to but actually will

The score you received does not represent your potential

You scored lower than your target score

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I received an automated pop up message regarding some tips before the Nov LSAT- but now I can’t seem to get back to that page. Where can I get those links again?

If you want to return to any pop up messages received, under your username select "Contact us," on that page click on the big blue tab "Contact us," and a side message will appear on the right bottom hand corner where you can access all pop up messages 7sage has sent. It'll show as "Show all conversations."

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From what I understand, If you have an LSAT score on file, that's what schools will consider whether you submit a GRE or not. Submitting a GRE is only for those who have not taken the LSAT. I haven't heard of any schools requiring the GRE., it is only an option for particular schools in lieu of the LSAT. You can't remove the LSAT from your file, so there's really no point to submitting a GRE score. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

No you're right - I forgot with CAS that LSAT scores on file are automatically sent. I think the LSAT holds more weight, however, because statistics comparing law school competitiveness are based on reported LSAT scores, and law schools are obligated to report the highest score they receive from each accepted applicant. You could always contact admissions for the schools you are applying to and see what advice they offer!

Some schools require you to submit the GRE score if you've taken it within the last 5 years (which you have since it was 2017). So make sure to identify if the schools you are applying to fall under this category.

If you plan to retake the LSAT and the retake is higher than your GRE score, and the school doesn't require you to submit it, I think you should leave the GRE score out and have the higher LSAT as your score representation. If you're applying to schools with a higher median than your current LSAT score, I'd apply with the GRE score alone.

Just my thoughts, so take it with a grain of salt :)

Any specific reason you are timing yourself with 30 and not 35 minutes? That extra 5 minutes may give you 2-3 questions that you're missing. I wouldn't move into other PTs just yet because you don't want to spoil the 60-90s. Because you're limited on time I don't suggest going through every single PT you have done from 1-52 but use a good amount this week and next for trial and error and then push into the new ones.

Use PTs 1-20 to do individual games timed. Practice one game at a time to figure out what your weaknesses are; what game type causing you to slow down, what question types are you missing, how much time on avg do you need for that type of game, etc.

Use PTs 20-52 to practice problem sets (4 games) under the 35 minute timed condition. See if you are able to carry over what you can do in one game alone to now a full set. If you can't try to figure out what is causing your accuracy to dip when you do 4 games together. Are you missing questions in the tail end because you run out of time? Are you missing questions in the front end because you aren't warmed up? Keep asking yourself questions to really understand why it is that you're missing questions.

I think advice from the community depends on a few of the following questions:

What is your target LSAT score

Are you aiming to apply for this years cycle

Is this an important internship/how would you feel passing up this internship

Some of these will also help determine if it makes sense to push back your LSAT beyond January, where you can find your rhythm in your internship and still take the LSAT while interning.

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The only Russian and French game I know if is the one dealing with plays and novels. Not that one?

Novels & plays is PT32 G2

Another one I'm thinking of with those variables is PT29 G3