@ilikephilosophy993 said:

@katieshuter1737 said:

@roystanator440 said:

Hey LG benefits with the most practice! I choked somewhat on my first attempt on LG and I was able to get a minus 2. Not the best performance compared to others, but it was a milestone for me. I was able to finish LG confidently with extra time after having fool proofed virtually all the LG. I literally took all the LG as sections and drilled problematic games as well. The path to mastering LG is more straightforward than LR and RC. Doing so helped me push past into the 160s in my official take. This is coming from a guy whos diagnostic was in high 130s.

Yeah it does make me feel better that LG is the most improvable section. Thank you!!

I am a little discouraged though because LG was actually my best section prior to taking the LSAT and it was holding up my score (i.e. I was averaging -4 in LG, -9 in RC, -7 in LR) but then the actual test day had me completely turned around -- bombing LG and doing well in the other sections. So weird.

You may have a problem similar to the one I had. When I didn't understand an LG, I would struggle to understand any of it. It was sort of "all or nothing" with me for a while.

That's exactly what happened to me with the February LG. I took one look at a question, alarms went off in my brain due to unfamiliarity, and I just couldn't complete the entire game.

@roystanator440 said:

Hey LG benefits with the most practice! I choked somewhat on my first attempt on LG and I was able to get a minus 2. Not the best performance compared to others, but it was a milestone for me. I was able to finish LG confidently with extra time after having fool proofed virtually all the LG. I literally took all the LG as sections and drilled problematic games as well. The path to mastering LG is more straightforward than LR and RC. Doing so helped me push past into the 160s in my official take. This is coming from a guy whos diagnostic was in high 130s.

Yeah it does make me feel better that LG is the most improvable section. Thank you!!

I am a little discouraged though because LG was actually my best section prior to taking the LSAT and it was holding up my score (i.e. I was averaging -4 in LG, -9 in RC, -7 in LR) but then the actual test day had me completely turned around -- bombing LG and doing well in the other sections. So weird.

When I spoke to an admissions person at a law fair, the general consensus was that the "I want to help people" isn't a barrier for it's inherent statement. It's a barrier because apparently all the other applicants say the same thing and it eventually becomes regurgitated bs. Especially, as @xadrianas6x881 mentioned, when it comes to people who have a very naive understanding of what it means to help people.

When I heard that at the law fair, my PS changed from "I want to help marginalized groups" to "I specifically became inspired by this particular group that is affected by X Y Z and that is why I am seeking a dual JD/Masters in Environmental Studies so that I can confront these problems in the most comprehensive way possible." I was fine with keeping that in my PS because my entire undergraduate degree was dedicated to helping struggling individuals and most of my extracurricular and leadership experience revolved around serving others. However, for others who just say they want to 'help people' (i.e. 'save the world' mentality), it can come off as naive/corny/disingenuous.

It kind of puts you in a tough spot because some people genuinely do want to help others and that's why they seek the career. However, the people who are in it for the money, status etc aren't usually going to write that down either... so they end up also saying they want to 'help people.' i.e. one of my friends wrote her PS on backpacking to China and seeing poor people and deciding it made her angry so she wanted to help in any way she could. But now she's doing big law with a massive corporation (that supports sweatshops in China) and she's making tons of $$.

So imo to admissions people, sometimes it can come off as bs.

@ilikephilosophy993 said:

If LG is your biggest problem, that's a good thing. If you blindly guessed on 20 LG questions and scored a 153, you should be able to hit a 160 no problem by June.

I agree. I guess I just need to find the strength to get back into studying because the thought of studying right now makes my head want to explode. I was honestly miserable the last 6 months of drilling & PTing.

Mine is not updated either. I've just been in contact with an admissions officer at Osgoode and they said they should be receiving Feb. scores very soon. They said that if they don't receive them through OLSAS in the next few days, they will contact OLSAS directly and ask for the scores (for the students who indicated they wrote in February).

If you feel like you are adept in the fundamentals, then I don't see why it's necessary to start from the very beginning of the CC. I think if you feel like you have a solid foundation, all you need to do is practice. Practice, practice, practice.

However, if you see that you are tripping up on recognizing key logical indicators, or mixing up bi-conditionals, or forgetting how to approach Necessary Assumption questions, then revisiting those fundamentals would help.

Otherwise, imo you just need to practice. Especially in LG. As I'm sure you've read, LG is the easiest to improve. It's by far the most unfamiliar but it catches quite easily once you foolproof enough. I hated LG and it was my worst section for most of my early practicing but now it's my best (up until Feb. LSAT though..).

As you practice, take note of things that you are tripping up on. Then revisit those areas in CC. I just feel like it would be a waste of your time do CC all over again blindly. Practice, foolproof, note your weak spots, go back and revisit them in CC, practice again, repeat.

Good luck! And while I commend you for starting round two today, make sure to give yourself a little break post-Feb LSAT. You don't want to burn out. You deserve to relax a little :) Good luck !!!

@ewelinabzducha901 said:

@katieshuter1737 said:

@ewelinabzducha901 said:

@kevinarlius313 said:

@saberhossinei210 you got trucks and runner, nurse, yoga for LG?

I had the same! Hopefully that one was real cause it was fairly easy. The second LG was horrible tho! I didn't event get to the last game! So I pray it was experimental.

The LG section that had yoga and trucks was experimental.

The real one was three econ classes/prerequisites, robbery in museum, classes in upper hall/lower hall, and seating arrangements.

Thanks! I had a different set tho! First one was yoga/trucks and the second one manager employees/subjects for 1,2 semester - religion, physics....

But now I am even more depressed.....

Don't be depressed! You just completed a major feat - the LSAT is a beast. Take some time off and relax.

Did you not have any of the games about econ, robbery, upper/lower hall, and seating arrangements? Did you write internationally?

@ewelinabzducha901 said:

@kevinarlius313 said:

@saberhossinei210 you got trucks and runner, nurse, yoga for LG?

I had the same! Hopefully that one was real cause it was fairly easy. The second LG was horrible tho! I didn't event get to the last game! So I pray it was experimental.

The LG section that had yoga and trucks was experimental.

The real one was three econ classes/prerequisites, robbery in museum, classes in upper hall/lower hall, and seating arrangements.

I'm sorry this happened to you - sounds very frustrating. I doubt a coughing fit would prompt LSAC to call for a retest and/or cancel your score. From what I've heard, it seems to only happen in really serious instances like when the test is immensely disturbed (i.e. everyone in the room is forced to stop writing for some reason).

I can't even begin to imagine how somebody could just walk in with no regard for the LSAT regulations. That stresses me out just thinking about it. The night before the exam, I probably spent an hour reading every detail on the admissions ticket over and over again to make sure I would not violate the rules on test day lol.

LG is usually my best section (it was my worst until I foolproofed like crazy) and I found this LG to be particularly difficult.

Not because of any crazy rules or hard inferences, but because of how odd the rules were. I can see how Feb's LG was easy/normal for those who can apply their knowledge easily, but difficult for those who are accustomed to regurgitating known game boards/inferences/rules.

I am the latter (I rely on getting by LG through recognition and familiarity) and I had a really hard time with diagramming the games. Like the robbery game, I had no idea how to diagram the sounds. Same with the econ game and the prerequisite thing. I ended up getting so nervous with the unfamiliarity that I choked and bombed the entire section.

Prior to test day, I hadn't seen my boyfriend in almost 3 weeks because he caught a minor cold and I was paranoid about catching anything before the test. Feels good to be done lol.

> @mpits001889 said:

> > @katieshuter1737 said:

> > What if the nerves got to me during the exam and I guessed like 3/4 LG? :|

>

> I took the December exam. I choked on the LG section. The entire 4th game I guessed, and for a handful of the questions from game 1+2 I wasn't entirely confident. I thought I went double digits in LG, but I ended up with a -8. Not good at all, but my performance in LR+RC was consistent. I ended up with a score that was within my anticipated range.

>

> I wouldn't cancel over a handful of questions wrong in LG.

Thank you. This eased my worry a little bit. Although I blindly guessed a handful of games, not a handful of questions :bawling: I've decided not to cancel but definitely did not feel good leaving that exam.

@roystanator440 said:

Yes! It was so... anti-climactic. I’ve been studying for over a year and feel pretty good about today. I thought I’d want to celebrate and get wasted... but I just feel empty and kind of tired lol.

Last night I went out to celebrate and spend time with friends to get away from post-exam stress... but the LSAT came with me anyway. My boyfriend said something confusing at the pre and I blurted out "I think you're confusing the necessary for the sufficient condition"

@hmette421 said:

@btsao339 said:

Was the string quartet LG real? Something like picking 2 violin players, piano etc.

My head is so cluttered I can’t remember if it was in the same section as the robbery game.

Did you have this order: LG, LR, LG, RC, LR

Because that was mine and I'm in the same spot. Head is so cluttered I can't remember which game fell in which section, as they were so close together. If that was your order do you remember if the string quartet was in the 1st or 3rd LG section? Because the string quartet/loading bays section was apparently experimental.

Really curious bc I totally bombed the first game section...

@btsao339 @hmette421 string quartet Q was experimental. I had the same order as you. It was in the 3rd section. 1st LG section was real.

@katieshuter1737 said:

Actually felt like I made a major improvement over my last score on this LSAT! February wasn't half as scary as I thought it would be haha.

I got LG LR RC(fake) RC(real) LR. Felt like LG was a breeze, LR was kind of weird but manageable, and RC was very tough—I was pissed to see that beetles was the real section.

I would not be entirely surprised if my score breakdown was the reverse of my December performance (with LG being best and RC being worst this time, vs RC best LG worst in December). Anyone else feel this way?

I was the opposite. I found RC (with the beetles) to be a breeze and LG to be brutal.

I agree that LSAC can be really stingy and strict. I get why there's no mechanical pencils allowed though. For starters, the clicking would be super annoying. Secondly, it's easier to hide things within a mechanical pencil (for cheating) compared to a standard HB pencil. Re: the phone, I left my phone at home and had no trouble; I just hailed a cab when I got out of the testing center and headed home. I do see the trouble it would be for someone who doesn't live in the vicinity of the test centre.

The lack of storage is a good point. Some people at my testing centre clearly came from long distances and the proctors made them leave all their belongings (bags, larger coats) outside in the hallway, unmonitored, in a public building. Seemed kind of sketchy.

> @leahbeuk911 said:

> Bump

>

> It always feels like you did awful and you should cancel. Don’t let the nerves get to you! There’s very little down side to just letting your score be what it is.

What if the nerves got to me during the exam and I guessed like 3/4 LG? :|

@tacolliercollier239 said:

@katieshuter1737 said:

So let me get this straight... the LG section that had the prerequisite game and the sound game was real .... ? ha ha

ha

ha

dies

Yes! I had to skip one, go to next then go back. I was hoping for the experimental to be real

Same... I absolutely bombed the first LG section in the exam

So let me get this straight... the LG section that had the prerequisite game and the sound game was real .... ? ha ha

ha

ha

dies

@kimyeji11697 said:

Which PTs? Certain tests are much more challenging. In some tests the more difficult games are up front. If you want a confidence booster before you take your exam, finish with games from PT 82.

Unfortunately I was having the most difficulty with games from PT 80 and up lol

@reisingjames853 said:

It sounds like you are really burning out. I would step away from all LSAT related things over the next two days, including this forum.

Yeah, idk. I took a really good, long much needed break last week to step away from burnout, and I thought I could come back refreshed... but apparently not.

@gregoryalexanderdevine723 said:

I think you mean @katieshuter1737's thread! :)

Either way, sounds like a very nice, well-deserved, relaxing day!

Good luck

WHoops I did! Edited. Thank you ;)