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Thursday, May 28 2015

Thanks all for the comments! I'm definitely going to try cutting down timing for sections this week and see how it goes. I also think I'm going make a list of everything I think could go wrong on test day (get stuck on a game, test room disturbance, etc.) and how to best respond to it. I'll also be working on breathing/de-escalation techniques!

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Thursday, May 28 2015

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2nd Time Around and Anxiety..Any Advice!?

So I'm signed up for the June 2015 test and this is my second time taking the test. I took the Oct 2013 and scored in the low 150s which was heartbreaking considering my diagnostic was a 157. I've been studying for about 9 months, took the 7sage course and have done 20 PTs under test conditions. My last five scores are as follows: PT 65--- 163, PT 66-- 169, PT 71-- 165, PT 72-- 165, PT 73-- 168. My goal score is a 167-169 so I think I'm scoring where I want to be. The problem is I have anxiety and my confidence really took a hit the first time I took the test. Anyone have some advice on how to get through these next two weeks both mentally and study-wise? I feel like I'm ready and will do better on this test but at the same time I have this creeping fear that somehow I'll freak out and mess it up again. Any advice is greatly appreciated.

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Tuesday, Apr 21 2015

Thanks for all the comments guys, @.hopkins, I saw a drop in the games on one PT and then did well on the RC and then on the next test did better on the games and got like -8 on the RC. Before these newer PTs I was scoring in the high 160's (167 a lot) and about -3/4 per section. So it's frustrating to be having trouble all around now. But I'm doing lots of blind review and fool-proofing games!

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Saturday, Apr 18 2015

Yeah that's why I switched because I wanted it to be as realistic as possible. Thank you for the response---it's good to hear I'm not crazy I swear I thought something in my brain broke lol. I'll definitely be focusing only on new material until the test. If anyone has any more tips they would be greatly appreciated!

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Saturday, Apr 18 2015

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Finding newer PTs harder than older ones?

I don't know if anyone else has had this happen to them but the LSAT is two months away and I've been taking PTs for about 2-3 months now. I was working through the 40s and low 50s PTs and wanted to start moving into more recent ones so I'll have experience with those. I was scoring consistently in the high 160s and now on my last two PTs (PT 64 and 67) I scored a 159 and a 162. I'm baffled. I don't understand why all of the sudden I'm having so much trouble and it's really hurt my confidence. Has anyone else experienced this?

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Wednesday, Jan 14 2015

http://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/2050/worried-about-retake-need-advice

It's good to see your post, seglen512, because as you'll see above, I'm in a similar situation as you. I know my abilities are much higher than my first LSAT score because my PTs were very close to where my goal score was for the test day. I think for anyone who has intense test anxiety (like me), the LSAT is kind of a nightmare. Especially for retakers, my worst fear is that I'll "fail" again and disappoint myself because I'll have let my nerves get the best of me. For me, this time around studying I've really been trying to take care of my mental health. When I start to get all stressed out, I've been consciously trying to take a step back and breathe deeply, even if it's just for a few seconds. You'd be amazed at how much remembering to breathe helps lol. Also, and this is just something I've tried for me because I deal with anxiety and need a productive way to destress, but I've made a "happy list." This list includes everything that makes me feel better from drinking a warm cup of tea, to going for a run, to talking to a loved one, or playing guitar. If I'm super stressed (or not) I'll try to do at least one of these things that I know makes me feel happier, calmer, and healthier for at least 30 min to get myself back on track. And I second the meditation. It's not easy but I've just started doing it and it seems to be helping.

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Wednesday, Jan 14 2015

Thanks for the comment, I'm definitely going to start trying to test in different environments to increase my confidence. If anyone else has some advice please drop a comment!

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Monday, Oct 13 2014

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Retaking PTs I did a looong time ago

I started studying for the LSAT over a ago now when I was a junior in college. I was super stressed and determined not to take a year off so I wanted to take the June 2013 LSAT. Being a stressed out freak, I thought the best thing to do was to do a bunch of PTs (which I still will do only this time with more focus on reviewing after the test). I blew through a bunch of PTs that I can't even remember now which ones they were. I honestly don't remember hardly anything from the tests--in doing the syllabus I've recognized some of the content in a few questions I've done but it doesn't seem to have any effect on my answer choice and I definitely haven't had any instances where I've recognized a question and immediately remembered the correct answer. Do you think I could still be influenced by some of the tests I've already taken? Thanks for the comments.

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Wednesday, Jul 08 2015

Thank you @! @ No, I'm a Michigan resident--hoping that and my B.A. in Phl from Michigan might help me with Michigan's ED.

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Wednesday, Jul 08 2015

@ I'd say dive into the trainer to shore up your reasoning/argument structure skills

@, I obviously am not up to date on the lingo so what exactly do you mean by "the trainer?" Just want to make sure I'm using the right resources. And yes I do have major test anxiety (actually if you see my other posts they're mostly about anxiety lol) although I was much less stressed on the June test compared to my first test because I knew I was more prepared. After reading all the comments, I think I'll be even less stressed on the October knowing that at the very worst I'll apply with the 163 I already have. Thanks for all the comments everyone, and if anyone has any more tips for honing my skills to lock in those higher scores I'm all ears!

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Tuesday, Jul 07 2015

@ for reference to my numbers my last 6 PTs before the June test were PT 66: 169 (BR 178), PT 71: 165 (BR 173), PT 72: 165 (BR 173), PT 73: 168 (BR 177), PT 74: 167 (BR 173). I'd have to be reusing a lot of material although I do still have untouched recent PTs. At this point I'm just not even sure what to focus on since my RC and LR fluctuate between -2 and -7 (for LR I don't really have a question type that I'm consistently getting wrong) and my LGs fluctuate between -2 and -6. I'm also worried how it will look to school if my LSAT score shot up from a 153 to a 163 but then went back down to say a 160 or something.

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Wednesday, Jan 07 2015

kicurtis935

Worried about retake--need advice!

So my relationship with the LSAT has unfortunately been long. In college, I was determined not to/freaked out about taking a couple years off after school--which meant I had to get the LSAT done before I graduated. My initial diagnostic was a 157 and at the height of my PTs I was scoring in the mid to high 160's, my highest being a 167 (this was also before I took 7sage). I was scoring well for my goal (168-170) but was still over the time limit on each section by a couple minutes. But being the neurotic person I am, instead of pushing the test back--I took it. Weeks before the test my PT scores were fluctuating all over the place from a 166 here to a 155 there and that only made me more nervous (I have anxiety in case you couldn't tell). Anyways, test day roles around and I ended up with a 153--BELOW MY INITIAL DIAGNOSTIC. I was heartbroken--and still am. Anyways now my confidence is totally shot and I'm about to start taking PTs again so I was wondering if anyone has any tips on managing stress before and during the test and whether my goal of a 168-170 seems reasonable. Thanks a bunch in advance for all the help, I love this discussion board so far!

So I retook the June 2015 LSAT and got a 163. Now this is much better than my first actual test score which was a 153 (did not study in the right way or right amount of time), however, I was scoring between a 165-169 before I took the June test. I'm planning on applying to schools of different tiers but my top three T14 schools are Berkeley, Michigan, and Northwestern, which I plan to apply to early binding. What I'm debating is whether to take the October test for probably a max increase of 5 points. I have a 3.81 from Michigan and have been working as a paralegal for a little over a year now. What I'm wondering is if I have a shot at Northwestern and Michigan with these credentials (I'm not a URM). I know a higher score would definitely make me a stronger candidate but I also don't know if it's worth risking getting a lower score than the one I have now. I'm working full-time right now and am planning on applying for the Fall 2016 cycle so I don't know how much intense studying I can do between now and October. The thing is that I feel like it's just a few small differences that caused my lower score so I think I'd need to focus on tweaking certain areas of the test if I did decide to retake for the last time. I know I'm thinking out loud here but I'm really going back and forth on this one. Any sage advice is much appreciated!

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Saturday, Dec 06 2014

Okay, this is how I had a "ding ding" in my head when understanding why (d) is right (I chose c initially). So M is saying we won't be able to do a DB study because we will be able to visually see the affects of the drug and then we'll know who is and isn't getting the drug. E is saying to M that you can't know what the "the outcome" is going to be of the study because he's assuming that M is talking about therapeutic effects of drug, which presumably they don't know much about yet. BUT, they may know known side effects, and these are the types of effects M is talking about, therefore, he doesn't need to know the outcome of the study to make his claim.

I still don't have a great explanation for why c is wrong other than that E doesn't seem to be able to comment on M's assumption of the placebo's effects because the placebo's effects are never discussed. If anyone has a clearer explanation for why c is wrong please post!

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Tuesday, Dec 02 2014

Thank you for the comments!

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