Usually there a few questions that just out of my league.
I need someone, who close to -4
Usually there a few questions that just out of my league.
I need someone, who close to -4
I need someone for blind review LR and RC
I'm between 0 and - 2
PM me if you're interested!
I’m taking the November test. Yesterday the May 2020 LSAT-flex came up in the LawHub.
I’m going to take it in a week or so. Let’s blind review this test together.
I finished 1L at the Fordham Law. I want to share.
The Cost of Attendance was $116,782
Tuition was (the following year more) $71,224
Class size for 1L: 93 (the number of people in my classroom).
My points about Fordham law:
The quality of education: as low as it gets.
The professors need to be more engaging and interested in their topic.
Most students would not attend the classes if not the mandatory attendance.
I have a law degree and practiced law outside of the US. And I loved it. But experience in Fordham law school would make me feel the opposite.
There is inconsistency across sections. In Logical Reasoning (LR), scores vary from -1 to -3 at times; they drop to -6 at other times. Reading Comprehension (RC) consistently scores around -4. You also experience occasional timing issues that lead to rushed questions. There isn't a clear pattern in the missed questions; therefore, the problem may not lie with a specific question type but could be related to test-taking strategy, endurance, or a deeper understanding of the material. Since your scores are already high, the margin for improvement is small, and each question carries more weight in the higher range. You should focus on minimizing errors in the areas where you are already strong while addressing your weaker spots.
Regarding the inconsistency in LR: When you miss more questions, is it towards the end of the section? If that's the case, fatigue or time pressure could affect you. Alternatively, certain question types may appear less frequently but still trip you up when they do appear. Analyzing your past tests to identify any hidden patterns would be beneficial. For example, you might be consistently missing a particular type of question, such as parallel reasoning or necessary assumption, without realizing it because those questions are not frequent.
You could create a list of your mistakes, and I can help you determine what you might be doing wrong.
It's common for people to see fluctuations, especially when learning new methods. When you start studying, you might overthink or second-guess yourself, leading to a temporary drop. Maybe the Foundations gave a slight boost, but as you began the LR curriculum, you're trying to apply new strategies that aren't yet automatic, causing a dip in performance.
I just wanted to let you know that this is a known phenomenon. For example, when learning any skill, the initial stages can make you more conscious, leading to worse performance before improvement. Maybe you're focusing too much on the new techniques and not trusting your instincts yet—also, perhaps the tests you took varied in difficulty. Different practice tests can have different scales, so a 153 on one might not be directly comparable to a 157 on another.
You might be burning out or not reviewing the practice tests effectively. Reviewing is crucial. You must analyze your mistakes deeply, understand why you're getting questions wrong, and adjust your approach. Also, timing could be an issue. As the focus is more on accuracy, the timing might suffer, leading to more incorrect answers or guessing.
Please know that this is part of the process and that persistence pays off. Take another test but with a focus on review afterward. You should take timed sections instead of complete tests to build stamina and focus on weak areas.
After learning formal logic, I dropped from 166 to 162, then climbed to 173+
Let me know if you’d like to help to dissect a specific section or question type! You’ve got this.
Congratulations!
I am relatively new to the US, and in my life out of the US never had such an experience. I've been using a study buddy thing on 7sage since the last October. But the fact that one person out of 5-7 doesn't show up bathers me. A typical case looks like this: a person adds me on the tool, offers a PT or sections, sets up a time (via zoom, one-on-one), doesn't show up, and doesn't say a word afterward. Is it a cultural norm?
Free tutoring for RC
They are "must be true questions".
Negate each answer choice.
The facts in the correct answer choice always repeat the conclusion or premise.
I was in the same situation. I never could finish one out of 4 games on my official test. I ended up going to school with 168. However, since you no longer have logic games, if you decide to retake the test, I can share my approach to Reading Comprehension and Logical Reasoning.
I’m taking PT, don’t score some of them, leaving for blind review. As of now, I have for br PT 54 (RC), 55, 56(LR), 54(LR), 61(LR), and going up. Please let me know if you are interested br one of these PT any time soon
As with any book, studying using Loophole is better than not studying at all. But if you would reverse-engineer 15 LR questions on your own instead, it would be much better and faster.
Get a good webcam (for example Onn. Webcam with Ring Light-3 LED levels, Autofocus, Up to 1440p Resolution, $30)
So the proctor can see at the same time you and your desk, and most of the room
I'm studying for the June - July tests. I'm around 165. I’m pretty soled on LR. On games a bit less. On RC just got developed my routine, whether it pays off I will know in a month or so. I don’t have experience with a study buddy yet. Except for the only one discussion on a few LR questions with a friend of mine. I think to share strategies and discuss particular LR questions could be healthful
Your tiredness comes from hyperfocus (hypervigilance). You have to be better in the test—especially in RC. The hyperfocus comes from not understanding what your goals are while you are reading. The secret is to get to know what to focus on. First, you need to focus on only three questions while reading. What must be true? What can't be true? What can be true?
Please don’t hesitate to ask for help as you did here. I recommend meeting with a few people who understand the test to review a passage or two together. Try to internalize their way of thinking.
Please send me a private message if you are interested
I am sure RC is not as hard to improve in your situation as it seems. To get from -18 to -9 is double in a couple of months.
I can help you with RC for free. Please don't hesitate to PM me to meet via Zoom
That's a good point. The same applies to law school. I proposed to my ex during my 1L and attended her graduation, but she secretly had a week-long romance with another man. I discovered this just three days before my finals during 2L. Even the proctor asked me, “Are you okay?” As a result, my exams didn’t go well, and I had to say goodbye to my big law ambitions. So, my advice is to avoid dating or falling in love while in school, too
Too ambitious? Roughly a year of studying. Not at all! Too ambitious is when people have a month of studying and want 170+. PM me, and I'll explain how to deal with MP questions.
1.By blind reviewing every single question, LSAT students save a lot of time and get their target score faster than students who BR only flags questions, while the latter group of students reviews individual PT quicker and takes more PTs.
Which one of the following, if true, would best reconcile the statement above?
A. Few LSAT students have detailed knowledge of LSAT theories about the relationship between BR and score.
B. By BR every single question, LSAT students are getting a deeper understanding of the material, and reinforce their technic for questions they got right.
D. ... your variant
In your situation (LG -2 and LR -3), you should be able to get - 2 on RC or better. So focus on RC and change the method. Read slower and often pause and summarize. When finished, tell yourself the passage's main point, conclusion, primary purpose, etc.
The fastest cure would be a simple one. Take a section of LR and deep review it. It would take 2-3 days. But if you do proper analysis of the arguments you will get -2 or better and that's where your success with LR is going to be unavoidable.
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Congratulations on getting into your dream school, @! We're so happy for you!
Wishing you good luck with your law school journey!
Thank you!
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Congrats @ ! You've been around these forums a long time and have given a lot of help to a lot of folks. So happy to see you land so well, and best of luck in law school!
Thanks, I learned a lot from you!
It has to do with my school. I’m sure the other schools are different.
Simulation of the study. The most important classes (Civil Procedure, Constitutional Law, Contracts, Criminal Law, Legal Writing and Research, Legislation & Regulation, Property, and Torts) are taught during the first year. And almost all of them, except writing, are giant in volume and importance. Each class is twice a week, and you need to read 500+ pages every day. Of course, nobody does. But I must know them for the exam.
The professors hide the ball. Because professors are required to give most students a B or B-, they teach the way most students would not know the materials. Most of my professors were of extremely low caliber. For contracts, for example, the professor talked about 2-3 topics per class (!), and you could not even hear her.
In civil procedure, the opposite happened - we discuss mostly only one topic (personal jurisdiction) and few others.
Any school is supposed to prepare its students for the bar exam. The NY bar has the pretests published on its website. However, the school does not take this into account. They could have used similar fact patterns and topics and used these materials for the class. But instead, they do not prepare for the bar. You must pay Barbri additional money after graduation for bar prep.
Instead of using legal treaties (partly, of course), which are free via Westlaw, we must buy expensive, more complicated textbooks that mainly include case law and random, somitemes unhelpful commentary.
However, some classes and professors are exceptions. So far, I have had one professor who published his PowerPoint slides before the class, and I could find the cases on my own without a textbook. The other great class consists of 4 different simulations, where you, as a lawyer, meet with a client or the opposite side for consultation or negotiations.
So overall, my experience is ok so far.
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90%. You need to be as humble as possible. Including the way you write application materials, communicate with schools, and something about your previous life that shows that you understand hardship.
Cancel for sure. Don't waste an attempt.
Four years ago, I took a diagnostic, and after seeing my results, I dropped the idea of going to law school. After a year or so, I resumed studying and got a good score.
Today, I've accepted an offer from my dream school - Fordham Law, with $$+. (About Fordham. Among others. The employment outcome is excellent. The campus is breathtaking, in a great location with so many opportunities. The class size of 400+ students gives a vast network).
Thanks 7sage! And thanks to all my study buddies! Especially Graeme @SufficientCondition and @JordanJohnson
I just finished my second year of law school, and it's been an okay experience. I found the LSAT more enjoyable, and the people I met during my preparation were amazing study partners. We had so many great study sessions over Zoom, which were a lot of fun. I really miss you, my study buddies! I hope your law school experience turns out to be as rewarding as your journey with the LSAT!
So, if you are studying for the LSAT now, be sure to enjoy the LSAT and make the most of your time with your friends. Study together as much as you can.
Just reverse-engineer 5-6 passages from RC. Anything that takes you away from PTs is the wrong direction.
2-3 days