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Wednesday, May 31 2017

Thanks guys! That's starting to clear things up.

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Wednesday, May 31 2017

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LSAT Trainer vs. 7Sage

Hey guys!

Hope everyone had an amazing holiday weekend!

I've decided to go back over some of the very beginning core stuff to make sure I have a solid understanding before moving on in the curriculum. I have the LSAT Trainer and I'm trying to use that as supplemental material to explain the concepts I'm having trouble with. This is going to seem really silly...maybe it's because I'm just starting out, but this threw me for a loop:

"When we are asked to evaluate the reasoning in an argument, it is always in terms of a very specific task: our job is always to evaluate and understand why the reasons given DO NOT justify the point that is made. For every one of these questions, your understanding of why the support doesn't justify the conclusion will be your primary gauge for evaluating right and wrong answers (p.35)."

So every argument is wrong? For some reason I remember hearing JY say don't worry about whether the argument is RIGHT OR WRONG..... What is the logical reasoning section asking me to DO?

If anyone could help clarify this, I'd greatly appreciate it!

Thanks guys!

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Sunday, Apr 30 2017

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starting over?

Hey guys!

I recently pushed back my intended LSAT date to September (I was registered for the June test) after talking to a pre-law advisor. I purchased the basic package here at 7sage when I originally started studying (early March) and the LSAT Trainer. I plan on upgrading my course to the premium package so I can get some more practice and problems. Would you guys suggest starting from scratch with about 4 months until the September test, or continuing on from where I'm at?

BACKSTORY: I'm back to studying after taking all of April off to weigh my options. I'm newly post-grad with an MA and the idea of 3 more years of school killed me softly. But after taking a few weeks and thinking it over, I'd regret not at least TAKING the lsat seeing as how I've already paid for it...I was forcing myself to study for 6 hours a day with few breaks and nothing was sinking in. I glazed over the diagramming sections, telling myself when the test came, "You won't have time to do any of that anyway. Memorize necessary and sufficient terms? Nope. Not useful. Learn to diagram? Waste of time." I took my first proctored practice test and BOMBED IT. And so here I am....

And so, I'm back. Not surprisingly, I'm doing problem sets and getting an embarrassing majority incorrect (especially with the LG).

Any suggestions?

Thanks!

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Friday, May 26 2017

Hey guys!

I've been away from my computer, but I wanted to say thanks to everyone that posted. I really appreciate the feedback! Enjoy the holiday weekend everyone!

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Saturday, Nov 25 2017

@ said:

Haha, this question really cracks me up. My father used to work at a biglaw firm doing international commercial transactions. Back when I was around 5 years old, he brought me to the firm one time and one of the lawyers there asked me what I wanted to be when I grow up. I responded excitedly with, "I want to be (insert my first name)!". After finishing college it's funny that I've come full circle and at this point am interested in doing something similar to the lawyers at my dad's law firm.

LOL you should go back to that firm and knock on that lawyers door. See if they remember you! Tell them you thought about it for a few years and changed your mind!

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Saturday, Nov 25 2017

@ said:

UVA and international law. I love international commerce, humanitarian law and the like. I’d LOVE to work for the UN or another international body like that.

I also really prefer the academic side to law. I’d love to teach in some capacity.

And then for domestic law I like business and contracts. This is last resort!

So awesome! I actually thought about international law and an NGO or something! Went out and purchased a book on the history of the UN and everything lol (impulse buy).

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Saturday, Nov 25 2017

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What do you want to be when you grow up?

Hey guys!

So I'm taking the test next Saturday and as it gets closer, I've had to continually remind myself of WHY I want to go. What's my drive for putting myself through this? I think we get so caught up in taking the test, we forget what the end result is - to go to law school and become a lawyer. So, I'm curious and figured I'd ask: what schools are people hoping to go to and why? Basically, "What do you want to be when you grow up?"

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Thursday, Jun 22 2017

Thank you guys so much! I'm going to start diagramming more often to start getting the hang of it. Hopefully it starts making some sense!

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Thursday, Jun 22 2017

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Is it useful?

Hey guys!

I hope everyone is well and enjoying their summer. I just wanted to throw this out there and see what you guys think...

I’m finding diagramming really difficult. (My brain is almost “shutting down” when I see the symbols and arrows.) It’s making things less concrete and turning it into a math problem. I’ve tried it during my practice and going through the lessons, but when I actually go to do problem sets, I find that diagramming really isn’t helping- it’s easier for me to read the stimulus slowly, label the conclusion and premises and then find the answer choice. I feel like I have a better understanding of the text that way.

So what’s the deal? Will not diagramming really cause me issues on test day? Is knowing how to take the negation and contrapositive of something really going to help? The only part of the test I could see diagramming helping would be the LG section….

Thanks!

xo

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Wednesday, Mar 21 2018

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Retake in June....but admitted to DePaul?

Hey guys!

I was hoping to get some thoughts on this..... I took the Dec. 2017 test and scored a 146... (horrible I know). I'm registered for the June test right now. I did however send out a few apps with that 146 just to see what happened.

Surprisingly, one of the schools I was really interested in, DePaul, admitted me with a little money as an incentive (36k total). DePaul is ranked poorly, but they are one of the few schools with the program I'm interested in (IP with cultural heritage concentration), they have top professors in that specific field, they offer externships in the field, and they have an LLM which I could get in the same 3 years. I've already got an MA in History and I guess I won them over with my dedication to the cultural heritage field....However, that 36k doesn't go very far- I'd still be in the hole 6 figures and with DePaul's stats, maybe without a job at the end.

I really want to start school this upcoming Fall, but I'd go next year if there was an opportunity for more scholarships if I score higher on the LSAT. My gpa isn't very high (3.34), so the LSAT score is really my only shot. Knowing I'm already in at DePaul however is killing my study vibe.

So I'm really curious, what do you all think? Aim for a retake or take the offer and run? Thanks!!!!

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Sunday, May 14 2017

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Law school...or nah?

Hey guys!

I was hoping to get some opinions on this.....

I put up a post a while back about HOW I should undertake studying for the LSAT. I purchased the Ultimate package and I'm starting to study again..but facing the same struggle I faced the first time, "Do I want to go to law school? Why am I taking this test?" I don't know any lawyers personally, so I'm basing all of my ideas off books, blogs, and websites. I met with a pre-law advisor and he asked what I'd majored in. When I answered history and told them that I also just finished my MA (again in history), he told me that obviously I had a passion and should follow that passion. I've thought about teaching, but I've also read negative things about that too. If someone were to ask me, "why teach history?" I'd be able to run you down a list of reasons why. Ask me "why law?" I'd give you a blank stare...the only semi-positive being the opportunity to earn more.

Anyway...sorry for the long post. Basically, I was wondering if anybody else feels this from time to time - should you be 100% sure law school and being a lawyer is for you before taking this test and investing time (and money)? Do people feel "passion" for the law or being a lawyer?

Thanks! xo

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kristenhamilton16817
Saturday, May 13 2017

Hi!

I totally feel your pain. I wake up in the mornings with all types of determination for studying a full 4 hours a day. But I find myself surfing the internet, watching one 2 minute video and taking a 15 minute break, or texting. It's even worse when the section is something complicated. You have to have another level of determination to study for the LSAT. We're in this together! The best advice I can give you (which I'm trying to follow myself) is just do what you can without burning out or getting frustrated. Stop when you feel yourself getting upset or frustrated.

My motto has been: You are allowed to cry. You are allowed to yell and scream. You are not allowed to give up.

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kristenhamilton16817
Sunday, Jun 11 2017

If not law, I would definitely be doing something related to my passion, which is history. I've thought about teaching high school. I went to school originally with plans to work in public history and actually have worked at a bunch of amazing places like Ellis Island/Statue of Liberty. I wanted to be Dr. Chase from the movie National Treasure with Nicholas Cage! lol

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Wednesday, May 03 2017

Just had to say I LOVE Billions. Great GIF!

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Saturday, Jun 02 2018

Hi!

It's seldom that I leave a comment, but I felt that I had to pass along some encouragement! I TOTALLY understand how you're feeling. It's a really sucky feeling when you feel like you're trying SUPER hard and making minimal progress - or you feel as if you're getting the concepts, making progress, taking a timed section only to bomb it. Both make you feel like a failure. BUT DO NOT GIVE UP!

I don't know how long you've been studying, but take it one day at a time. Things will get easier and you have to remind yourself that this is just a hurdle to get into your dream- which is law school and becoming a lawyer!

HOWEVER, taking the timed sections, burning through PTs, just to say you did a timed section while blindly answering questions, feeling rushed and overwhelmed is not the way to go.

I would suggest NOT taking the July test if you feel unprepared or your scores in practice are indicating that you aren't ready. I made that mistake taking the December 2017 test and I bombed it. I'd done timed sections, but not nearly enough and the ones I did I was making too many mistakes, rushing, and the frustration/burnout was real. Timed sections are good, but if you're making that many mistakes and your scoring is that inconsistent, it may just be a sign that you don't know the material as well as you COULD and with a few more weeks, you'll see improvement.

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kristenhamilton16817
Sunday, Jul 02 2017

@ WOW! Thank you so much for that. I do tend to put a lot of pressure on myself, that wanting to be 100% will drive you crazy though. After my epic breakdown, yes, I started again in June. I moved super slowly through the first few concepts and next up is the section is the intro to logic games...Which I might skip and push until later. Just stick with learning all of the LR concepts. The switching back and forth between LG and LR will probably just confuse me.

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Sunday, Jul 02 2017

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I originally started studying in March with plans to take the June test (crazy, I know), but as you can imagine, I got frustrated and quit. I didn't come back until June and pushed my test to December. I believed the best to avoid the frustration and aggravation would be to start over and really drill the concepts, making sure I understood the fundamentals before moving on.

I'd love to be getting -0 on the problem sets. For me that would mean that I really GOT the concept and I'd feel comfortable moving on to the next section of the curriculum. But it's July and time is running out and I don't feel too confident about moving on. I've read that PTing is the most important thing and I want to get as many of those in as I can before December, but I know I still need to make sure my core is solid. Right now, depending on the topic,I could be getting -3 or -4 wrong per problem set and that bothers me. But I want to start PTing in September, giving myself 3 months before the test- which leaves me July and August to finish the CC.

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Sunday, Jul 02 2017

@

Thanks for the advice! I never thought of writing down explanations for myself. I've rescheduled this test twice now and its expensive, so I'm taking it in December no matter what. I just want to be as prepared as possible.

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Sunday, Jul 02 2017

@ said:

@ have you figured out why you're missing them? Is it something simple or do you not understand the task for the question type? If you don't understand why the 4 AC are wrong and the one AC is right, I wouldn't move on.

For the ones I get right, I usually have a pretty good idea as to why the AC I'm choosing is correct and why the others are incorrect. I just don't want to move on to tougher concepts without getting -0. I don't feel as though I'd be setting myself up for success if I don't get the easier concepts all 100% down.

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Friday, Sep 01 2017

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Letters of Rec.

Hey guys!

Just curious, what's the take on letters of recommendation for graduate students?

Do students get letters from graduate professors or should we go back to our undergraduate professors and hope they remember you? Since our undergraduate grades are the ones that count for admissions, should we ask undergrad profs?

In my case, I went to a grad program that had professors that basically SUCKED and it's literally like pulling teeth to get them to do ANYTHING. I'd probably have a better shot getting a better letter from my undergrad school.

I'd love to hear opinions!

Thanks!

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kristenhamilton16817
Monday, May 01 2017

Thank you all so much for your comments. They've been a big help. This community is truly an awesome thing! I've taken all of your advice. I just purchased the Premium course...I'm excited to start!

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Saturday, Jul 01 2017

kristenhamilton16817

Not moving on

Hi guys!

Hope everyone is enjoying their holiday weekend!

I'm in need of some advice....I'm starting the CC over again, this time in hopes of solidifying the basics before moving on. I've taken the last 2 weeks to go over just the beginning of the CC (MP/MC, strengthen, weaken, etc.). I'm doing problem sets and still getting some wrong which is disheartening to say the least. I'm scheduled for the December test and I planned to start PTing in September (about 2 tests a week). Should I just move on with the CC and hope that I'll get better with the stuff I'm weak on? Or spend about another weak drilling the weak stuff and THEN move on (this is only the LR stuff...I haven't started LG or RC)?

Thanks guys so much! I feel like I post so often in need of advice and you guys are always so kind to help me out. I truly appreciate all the help! Y'all are life savers!

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kristenhamilton16817
Monday, May 01 2017

Thanks guys! I appreciate the feedback. I want to take it this year for sure though.

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